Monterra Pictures in GPX-files

[+Zoeklopers]

After downloading several gpx-files from Geocaching.com to my new Monterra I started the Geocaching profile and the native Geocaching app on the device and saw everything worked fine except.... it does not show the pictures from the cache description page. I downloaded Cgeo and used the same gpx file from the Monterra and it worked perfectly fine.

Is there a solution for this problem (using the app supplied with the Monterra?)

[+StefandD]

Pictures are not included in gpx files. So if you see pictures in c:geo you probably had an active internet connection.

 

There is a way to show pictures on the Monterra (or any other Garmin outdoor gpsr). JaVaWa has an online tool for that. It's in dutch, but judging your account name that shouldn't be a problem.

Another way is using GSAK with an appropriate macro.

[+Zoeklopers]

Pictures are not included in gpx files. So if you see pictures in c:geo you probably had an active internet connection.

 

There is a way to show pictures on the Monterra (or any other Garmin outdoor gpsr). JaVaWa has an online tool for that. It's in dutch, but judging your account name that shouldn't be a problem.

Another way is using GSAK with an appropriate macro.

 

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file. I switched off the WiFi of the Monterra. I imported the pocket query I made which is in the GPX directory of the Monterra into Cgeo on the same Monterra. The pictures that are shown on the description page of the cache when using my laptop are shown in Cgeo (so without active internet connection) and not in the Geocaching app of the Monterra. In this app the pictures are shown as tiny blue squares. I am not talking about the pictures people attach to their logs but the pictures the CO incorporates in the description page of the cache and are part of and supporting the description of the cache. When using GSAK or the JaVaWa tool I need to use my computer. One of the fun things of the Monterra is that using the Pocket Query Creator and 7-ZIP apps you can make a pocket query directly on the Monterra without using your computer.

[+StefandD]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

[+HHL]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

 

c:geo acts like a browser: the images are shown from the browser cache.

 

Hans

[+Zoeklopers]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

 

c:geo acts like a browser: the images are shown from the browser cache.

 

Hans

 

Hi guys, you probably all are right and I probably do not understand what you are meaning but:

The Monterra I have is brandnew, only have it since last friday so there are not much previous sessions.

 

After all your answers I took my Monterra.

Checked if WiFi was switched off

Cleaned all the caches of all the apps I could find, especially the browsers (Chrome and Firefox)

I cleaned the downloaded geocaches list in Cgeo

Checked again if the WiFi was still switched off

Imported the gpx-file from the Garmin/GPX directory into Cgeo (the exact same file as the native geocaching app on the Monterra is using).

Opened in Cgeo a geocache description I was absolutely sure to have never opened before on the Monterra or even any of my computers, tablets or whatever appliance.

And........ it showed the pictures from the description page of the geocache.

 

It is a miracle, this is way beyond my comprehension

[+GeoTrekker26]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

 

c:geo acts like a browser: the images are shown from the browser cache.

 

Hans

 

Hi guys, you probably all are right and I probably do not understand what you are meaning but:

The Monterra I have is brandnew, only have it since last friday so there are not much previous sessions.

 

After all your answers I took my Monterra.

Checked if WiFi was switched off

Cleaned all the caches of all the apps I could find, especially the browsers (Chrome and Firefox)

I cleaned the downloaded geocaches list in Cgeo

Checked again if the WiFi was still switched off

Imported the gpx-file from the Garmin/GPX directory into Cgeo (the exact same file as the native geocaching app on the Monterra is using).

Opened in Cgeo a geocache description I was absolutely sure to have never opened before on the Monterra or even any of my computers, tablets or whatever appliance.

And........ it showed the pictures from the description page of the geocache.

 

It is a miracle, this is way beyond my comprehension

 

You had one previous session, the one in which the app that violates the TOU brought in the data. It resolved the link at that time. It is really simple to verify. Create a PQ that includes pictures in the body of the cache and open it on your computer with a word processor. You will see there are no embedded images.

[+Zoeklopers]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

 

c:geo acts like a browser: the images are shown from the browser cache.

 

Hans

 

Hi guys, you probably all are right and I probably do not understand what you are meaning but:

The Monterra I have is brandnew, only have it since last friday so there are not much previous sessions.

 

After all your answers I took my Monterra.

Checked if WiFi was switched off

Cleaned all the caches of all the apps I could find, especially the browsers (Chrome and Firefox)

I cleaned the downloaded geocaches list in Cgeo

Checked again if the WiFi was still switched off

Imported the gpx-file from the Garmin/GPX directory into Cgeo (the exact same file as the native geocaching app on the Monterra is using).

Opened in Cgeo a geocache description I was absolutely sure to have never opened before on the Monterra or even any of my computers, tablets or whatever appliance.

And........ it showed the pictures from the description page of the geocache.

 

It is a miracle, this is way beyond my comprehension

 

You had one previous session, the one in which the app that violates the TOU brought in the data. It resolved the link at that time. It is really simple to verify. Create a PQ that includes pictures in the body of the cache and open it on your computer with a word processor. You will see there are no embedded images.

[+Zoeklopers]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

 

c:geo acts like a browser: the images are shown from the browser cache.

 

Hans

 

Hi guys, you probably all are right and I probably do not understand what you are meaning but:

The Monterra I have is brandnew, only have it since last friday so there are not much previous sessions.

 

After all your answers I took my Monterra.

Checked if WiFi was switched off

Cleaned all the caches of all the apps I could find, especially the browsers (Chrome and Firefox)

I cleaned the downloaded geocaches list in Cgeo

Checked again if the WiFi was still switched off

Imported the gpx-file from the Garmin/GPX directory into Cgeo (the exact same file as the native geocaching app on the Monterra is using).

Opened in Cgeo a geocache description I was absolutely sure to have never opened before on the Monterra or even any of my computers, tablets or whatever appliance.

And........ it showed the pictures from the description page of the geocache.

 

It is a miracle, this is way beyond my comprehension

 

You had one previous session, the one in which the app that violates the TOU brought in the data. It resolved the link at that time. It is really simple to verify. Create a PQ that includes pictures in the body of the cache and open it on your computer with a word processor. You will see there are no embedded images.

[+Zoeklopers]

Thanks for answering but I think you are wrong about pictures not being included in the gpx file.

Just open any gpx with a text editor and you'll see it's just a text file with XML markup. You'll also see that pictures in the listing just are HTML links. There are no pictures included in gpx files!

I don't know how c:geo can display the pictures. Maybe they were cached from an earlier session?

 

c:geo acts like a browser: the images are shown from the browser cache.

 

Hans

 

Hi guys, you probably all are right and I probably do not understand what you are meaning but:

The Monterra I have is brandnew, only have it since last friday so there are not much previous sessions.

 

After all your answers I took my Monterra.

Checked if WiFi was switched off

Cleaned all the caches of all the apps I could find, especially the browsers (Chrome and Firefox)

I cleaned the downloaded geocaches list in Cgeo

Checked again if the WiFi was still switched off

Imported the gpx-file from the Garmin/GPX directory into Cgeo (the exact same file as the native geocaching app on the Monterra is using).

Opened in Cgeo a geocache description I was absolutely sure to have never opened before on the Monterra or even any of my computers, tablets or whatever appliance.

And........ it showed the pictures from the description page of the geocache.

 

It is a miracle, this is way beyond my comprehension

 

You had one previous session, the one in which the app that violates the TOU brought in the data. It resolved the link at that time. It is really simple to verify. Create a PQ that includes pictures in the body of the cache and open it on your computer with a word processor. You will see there are no embedded images.

 

OK, I get it. The answers I got explain my initial question as well (why the native Garmin geocaching app does not show the pictures). The only solution of that problem is in the hands of Garmin. I made a case at customer support.

Thanks everybody.

[+Red90]

OK, I get it. The answers I got explain my initial question as well (why the native Garmin geocaching app does not show the pictures). The only solution of that problem is in the hands of Garmin. I made a case at customer support.

Thanks everybody.

 

It is NOT Garmin. Groundspeak's terms of use do NOT allow stripping of photos from the site. They are not allowed to do it.

[+JohnCNA]

OK, I get it. The answers I got explain my initial question as well (why the native Garmin geocaching app does not show the pictures). The only solution of that problem is in the hands of Garmin. I made a case at customer support.

Thanks everybody.

 

It is NOT Garmin. Groundspeak's terms of use do NOT allow stripping of photos from the site. They are not allowed to do it.

There's no stripping involved. My wife and I both use official legal (but different) phone apps and they both show the pictures in the cache description as well as in the logs. You're right, the pictures are not in the PQ's. They are automatically downloaded and displayed when the cache page is opened. All supported by the official API. I can't imagine why the Garmin app doesn't do that, too.

[+HHL]

[...] I can't imagine why the Garmin app doesn't do that, too.

 

The Garmin geocaching app is just an offline app (adopted without enhancement from their non Android gpsrs).

 

Hans

[+Red90]

There's no stripping involved. My wife and I both use official legal (but different) phone apps and they both show the pictures in the cache description as well as in the logs. You're right, the pictures are not in the PQ's. They are automatically downloaded and displayed when the cache page is opened. All supported by the official API. I can't imagine why the Garmin app doesn't do that, too.

 

They are allowed to open the photos in "real time" when browsing to the page. They are NOT allowed to go in and download the images to cache for later use. C-geo seems to be going in and pre-caching all pages including ones that are not being used, which is not legal.

[+Red90]

Personally, I would just use the Groundspeak app. It is run by them and allows offline caching of images. It is much better than the built in Garmin apps.