+Catch Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Changes made from version 3.66 to 3.67: Improved display of configurable data fields in night mode Fixed issue where barometer and compass data was not reported in demo mode Fixed issue with magnetic north offset when projecting a waypoint Problems with this beta software may be reported to MontanaBeta@garmin.com Montana 3.67 Beta Quote Link to comment
+taeke Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Not a biggie but noticed with this version the screen doesn't show the USB-logo anymore when connected to the computer, but just a dull grey screen. Quote Link to comment
+taeke Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) Beta has been removed (from the webpage, not the direct downloadlink) Is back. Edited December 13, 2011 by taeke Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Look for a 3.68 any minute now that fixes the USB graphic. Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Ahh, I've figured it out. In night mode, the trails lose their red dashed coloration and look just like unpaved roads. In day mode they look like trails again. This is using Garmin's Topo US 24K product. Confirmed this in v3.67 UPDATE: Garmin just confirmed a fix for this in the next release. Edited December 13, 2011 by yogazoo Quote Link to comment
+Triple Crown Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Eastern Mountain Sports has the Montana 600 on sale for $400. Lowest price I've seen. EMS Garmin Montana 600 Quote Link to comment
kb6ooc Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Ahh, I've figured it out. In night mode, the trails lose their red dashed coloration and look just like unpaved roads. In day mode they look like trails again. This is using Garmin's Topo US 24K product. Confirmed this in v3.67 UPDATE: Garmin just confirmed a fix for this in the next release. Sweet! You're on TOP of this yogazoo! Nice work! Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Anyone else tired of having to yank the bettery before the unit will respond to the power button after having it connected to your computer? Seems like any time I load something new onto the unit and remove it from my computer I have to yank the battery. I wonder if it has anything to do with "Save Always" barometer setting? Quote Link to comment
+taeke Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Seems like any time I load something new onto the unit and remove it from my computer I have to yank the battery. Never experienced that. Is it with 3.67? Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Seems like any time I load something new onto the unit and remove it from my computer I have to yank the battery. Never experienced that. Is it with 3.67? Yeah, I'm guessing it has something to do with having "Save Always" selected in my altimeter settings. Yanking the battery clears this setting and allows the unit to power up. Quote Link to comment
+taeke Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I'm guessing it has something to do with having "Save Always" selected in my altimeter settings. Yanking the battery clears this setting and allows the unit to power up. Doesn't do it here with that setting. I have: auto calibration on mode variable elevation trending save always plot type elevation/time It warns not to remove the battery when I enabled it. From the discussion you have with others about this topic, it seems to me that the pressure is recorded while the device is off, right? So yanking out the battery could corrupt your flash memory, if you remove it during a write action. Edited December 13, 2011 by taeke Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 That's not what I mean. What I'm saying is that, upon removing my unit from my computer, about 75% of the time, my power button is non-responsive. Pulling the battery works to snap the unit out of the freeze and allows me to press my power button to start the unit. Quote Link to comment
+taeke Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 That's not what I mean. Apologies for my writing, but I was still with you I tried exactly that, with the Save Always setting, connect and disconnect to/from computer and hit the power-button a bunch of times. It always switched on instantly, and I had to do no trickery of removing the battery because the device would not boot. I was quoting the warning when changed the setting to Save Always, and saying it is risky to remove the battery with this setting. Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 That's not what I mean. Apologies for my writing, but I was still with you I tried exactly that, with the Save Always setting, connect and disconnect to/from computer and hit the power-button a bunch of times. It always switched on instantly, and I had to do no trickery of removing the battery because the device would not boot. I was quoting the warning when changed the setting to Save Always, and saying it is risky to remove the battery with this setting. Did you try adding any data to the unit while plugged into your computer? That's what does it to mine. Quote Link to comment
+Alfresco2006 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Anyone else tired of having to yank the bettery before the unit will respond to the power button after having it connected to your computer? Seems like any time I load something new onto the unit and remove it from my computer I have to yank the battery. I wonder if it has anything to do with "Save Always" barometer setting? I have a similar problem that i have had for many firmware versions now. When using the auto cradle mount with speaker in the car if i turn the car off and dont manually turn off the Montana by selecting power off on the screen after shutting off the ignition the unit will not power back up again and will turn on but only gives a blank white screen. I have to then pull the battery to get it to start up. Very annoying and Garmin's dreadful customer service was no help either. If this isnt fixed soon mine is going back for a refund. Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) See my other post in the other thread but the issues me and others are describing seem to be related to the pressure trending setting of "Save Always" in the Altimeter setup. Long story short, set it to "Save When Power On" and see if it helps with the issues. Edited December 14, 2011 by yogazoo Quote Link to comment
+TyphoonTom0402 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Looks like too many issues with "Beta" version and there are way too many of them out there. I think I will stick with Version 3.60 until all of this is resolved. Does anyone have any idea how long beta versions stay in effect until they become permanent fixtures? Quote Link to comment
WrongwayUK Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I had this issue but thought it was due to not removing the devices correctly on a Mac. It could be related to the save always as I was conducting those baro tests recently in that other thread. Incidentally, if you leave set to save always. How long does your battery last. I came to switch on the Montana yesterday having not touched it for about 4 or 5 days and it was totally flat from about 80% when I left it. Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) In my experience, in the past, the save always function uses very little power. I've had my previous units, Oregon, Colorado, and 60c, set for well over two weeks with no huge drop in battery power. All bets are off on the Montana though. I flip-flop between being super patient and understanding to being super annoyed with my Montana's software hiccups. Today I'm annoyed. Edited December 14, 2011 by yogazoo Quote Link to comment
WrongwayUK Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 In that case I have no idea yet what has drained the power so damned fast. Just checked it and it's been sat turned off for 24 hours now. Still says 100%. I did turn off the save always though. Will leave it a few days and if still got good life left will try with Save Always turned back on. Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) I've noticed that sometimes the battery meter reads incorrectly or has a hiccup? I'll give it a test as well and report back in a day or so. The Save Always function wakes up certain parts of the unit enough to get a barometer reading every 15 minutes and then shuts back down. It's possible, given the host of issues, that it wakes up more than it's supposed to using more power in the process. Again, when working correctly, it doesn't use that much. The Barometer code guy at Garmin has some work to do. Edited December 14, 2011 by yogazoo Quote Link to comment
WrongwayUK Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Well after 2 days battery still at 100%. I think it might be the problem you had Yogazoo as it was probably after removing it from the computer. It had probably hung and as I didn't try to turn it on didn't realise. It still takes power in this hung state. Quote Link to comment
+michaelnel Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Looks like too many issues with "Beta" version and there are way too many of them out there. I think I will stick with Version 3.60 until all of this is resolved. Does anyone have any idea how long beta versions stay in effect until they become permanent fixtures? *All* Garmin firmware is beta (unless it is Alpha). Quote Link to comment
WrongwayUK Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 While updates are coming thick and fast they will probably be announced as in beta state. No use sending it out as a final if there is a good chance of a update needed again even for something simply like a missed spelling error. Quote Link to comment
+riffraff9000 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Looks like too many issues with "Beta" version and there are way too many of them out there. I think I will stick with Version 3.60 until all of this is resolved. Does anyone have any idea how long beta versions stay in effect until they become permanent fixtures? *All* Garmin firmware is beta (unless it is Alpha). That's pretty much it, there. Quote Link to comment
jholly Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Looks like too many issues with "Beta" version and there are way too many of them out there. I think I will stick with Version 3.60 until all of this is resolved. Does anyone have any idea how long beta versions stay in effect until they become permanent fixtures? *All* Garmin firmware is beta (unless it is Alpha). That's pretty much it, there. I sort of think the firmware on my 76CSx is production release. Or at least it is the final beta version. Quote Link to comment
yogazoo Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) Just a note I thought I'd add to this versions thread even though the issue has been with us since day one. In Pedestrian mode the route NEVER recalculates. Even if you circle around and approach the target from the opposite side. You can see in the images below, the route should have recalculated long already. I'm pretty sure that if I switched to Automotive mode the result would be the same (if I was still walking and not driving). The issue seems to be speed related, if I was travelling at car speed the route would recalculate but since I'm just walking the unit never recalculates. What's up with this? Has anyone reported this to the Montana software team yet? Edited December 18, 2011 by yogazoo Quote Link to comment
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