Found after a DNF.

[+Robert_Scout]

(Newbie Question ) Can I log a cache found, if I find a cache that i could not find on a previous hunt and in the past the same cache was loged as a dnf.

[+Chi-Town Cacher]

You sure can log your find since this time you found it. There are a few who'd say to change your DNF to a Found It, but I think the majority will agree with me that you should leave your DNF as you'd previously logged it and just enter a new log dated for the date you found the cache. Personally a lot of us are very proud of the ones we've DNFed in the past that we've since found so our DNFs are an important part of our caching history. That's my 2 cents.

[+Robert_Scout]

You sure can log your find since this time you found it. There are a few who'd say to change your DNF to a Found It, but I think the majority will agree with me that you should leave your DNF as you'd previously logged it and just enter a new log dated for the date you found the cache. Personally a lot of us are very proud of the ones we've DNFed in the past that we've since found so our DNFs are an important part of our caching history. That's my 2 cents.

 

Thanks for that

[+Bear and Ragged]

Some of the DNF logs can be rather fun to read!

Once I was composing a DNF log as I was still searching, and managed to find the cache!

[+ncfinn]

Definitely do not CHANGE the dnf log into a find log. Leave the old dnf and add a new "found". The dnf logs are very helpful to other cachers. I always look at the dnf-to-found counts when deciding if i want to go after a specific cache.

[knowschad]

You bet you can (and should) post a new Found It log once you find a cache that you previously DNFd. Changing an old DNF to a Found It (unless the DNF log was simply a mistake) is very much frowned on, as that DNF is part of the cache's history, as well as your own.

[+microvision]

What if you are out geocaching with a friend and your friend finds the cache? Technically you did not find it, they did but you did get to see it and sign its log. Do you truthfully record it as DNF or do you just tell a little white lie and say you found it even though your friend did?

[+tlap]

What if you are out geocaching with a friend and your friend finds the cache? Technically you did not find it, they did but you did get to see it and sign its log. Do you truthfully record it as DNF or do you just tell a little white lie and say you found it even though your friend did?

 

If I just stood by and did nothing while my friend found it, I would be uncomfortable logging a find. However, when I go caching with my neighbor, we are both involved in the find. We take turns with using the GPSr and it seems that whoever has the GPSr is less likely to make the find because she's too busy looking at the GPSr screen. That's just the way it goes. But, finding GZ and finding the cache container are both necessary parts of making the find. That's why we both sign the log.

 

Also, the way that we try to play is that if I find the cache without having to expose it, I would pretend to look for a bit longer and when I'm not near the cache I'd let her know I found it. Then she can keep looking until she sees it. That's the most fun way of doing it. Sometimes it doesn't work that way, like the time when she picked up something to look under it and exposed the cache for me to see.

 

Do a forums search for "huckle buckle" and for "three musketeers" because those are the geocaching slang terms for the "each individual finds" and the "team finds" approaches to finding a cache

[+9Key]

What if you are out geocaching with a friend and your friend finds the cache? Technically you did not find it, they did but you did get to see it and sign its log. Do you truthfully record it as DNF or do you just tell a little white lie and say you found it even though your friend did?

Did you sign the logbook? If so, then you were along for the "find".

[+Taoiseach]

No. No you can't.

 

Furthermore, once you get five DNFs, you're out of the game.

[+Taoiseach]

[+briansnat]

What if you are out geocaching with a friend and your friend finds the cache? Technically you did not find it, they did but you did get to see it and sign its log. Do you truthfully record it as DNF or do you just tell a little white lie and say you found it even though your friend did?

 

When you're caching with a friend or spouse you're really part of the team. You both contributed to the find. Maybe you found the first 3 stages of the multi and your partner found the last. Maybe you gave him a boost so he could look high in a tree. Perhaps you split up so he could check the rock pile and you could examine the nearby stump. It's all part of a team effort so it's a commonly accepted practice for all members of the team to log the find.

 

Now if I just stood there passively watching my partner(s) search I personally wouldn't log a find, but if I'm actively involved in the hunt I have no qualms about logging a find, even if I wasn't the team member who actually uncovered the cache. I think most geocachers agree with this.

 

If you are still uncomfortable with this, you can use the "huckle buckle beanstalk" method when caching with friends and family. As each person finds the cache, he then walks away and announces he knows where it is. That gives every member of the group an opportunity to make the find. Some people enjoy playing this way but it isn't manditory.

[+tozainamboku]

What if you are out geocaching with a friend and your friend finds the cache? Technically you did not find it, they did but you did get to see it and sign its log. Do you truthfully record it as DNF or do you just tell a little white lie and say you found it even though your friend did?

Do what ever you are comfortable with. Geocaching is fun recreational activity. There are no referees who check that you are posting a find online for a cache your friend found. The only guidance is given to the cache owner. Cache owners are asked to delete bogus or counterfeit logs. Just what makes a log bogus or counterfeit isn't stated. Elsewhere, however cache owners are told "Geocaches can be logged online as Found once the physical log has been signed. ... Cache owners may not delete the cache seeker's log based solely on optional tasks." This means that if you signed the physical log, a cache owner might have a difficult time justifying deleting your online find.

 

Geocaching with a group of cachers is something that many people enjoy. Sometimes these groups will wait until each person has a chance to find the cache, but more often as soon as one person in the group finds the caches they all sign the log (or one person signs for everyone in the group). The common practice is for everyone to post a find online. The online find marks the caches as completed in some way so that it can be excluded in later searches. So people post this as find since they obviously feel that the group has "completed" the cache and there is no need to come back and find it again as an individual.

[GermanSailor]

(Newbie Question ) Can I log a cache found, if I find a cache that i could not find on a previous hunt and in the past the same cache was loged as a dnf.

Yes, of course. You found it, you log a found it.

And there is absolutely no need to delete your previous DNF log!

 

GermanSailor

[+Arrow42]

Here's my take on what to log and when to log it:

 

<h2>What I log and why:

* If I have found the cache and signed the log I will log a find.<br>

* If I have satisfied the requirements of the cache owner I will log a find.<br>

* If I have found the container or the remains of the cache and I am not able to sign the log I will log an "needs maintenance ". <br>

* If I get to the site and I am unable to search for reasons that are interesting or important to the cache owner or future catchers, I will log a note.<br>

* If I get to the site and I am unable to search for reasons that are uninteresting, I will log nothing. <br>

<img src="http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/display/9eacea19-8155-4097-b12f-70612442b16a.jpg" align="right">

* If I begin to search but I am interrupted before finding the cache I will log a "Did not Find" with an explanation.<br>

* If I search and I am not able to find the cache I will log a "Did not Find"<br>

* If after logging a "Did not Find" I see that there is good reason to suspect that the cache is missing, I will log a "needs maintenance "<br>

* If the owner is unresponsive or does not indicate any plan to replace/check the cache I will log a "needs archive" so a Reviewer will review the situation.

 

If you like it, great. Feel free to discard it if it doens't suit you.

[+microvision]

OK here is another situation which happened to me this last weekend. I was searching for the first of a multiple location cache and was unable to find it after about 30 minutes. I walked back to my car thinking that it must be hidden under the snow, jotted down a note to myself that I DNF the cache, started to drive away and after a minute I got this feeling that I had to go back and check one more time. So I turned around and went back, gave GZ another search and then found it.

 

Does that negate the need to log a DNF? Or does that fact that I had given up for a few minutes and actually wrote myself a note that I did not find it mean that I should log a DNF and then log a Found it?

[+Taoiseach]

You found the first stage of a multi?

 

Log a find when you've found the final!

 

If you didn't go after the next stage for a particular reason, you might want to log a note, but even that isn't necessary.