+Jonovich Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Hi folks, Just spotted in my Geocaching.com profile an option to switch between GPX 1.0 and GPX 1.0.1. I'm curious as to what the difference is between the two versions? Does this setting affect both the Pocket Queries GPX & individual Cache page GPX downloads? Cheers, Jon.
+beejay&esskay Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 It affects all GPX files, both PQs and individual downloads. The main difference (for me) is the (re-)inclusion of attributes in 1.0.1. Since the current GSAK beta supports those attributes, color me happy.
+Jonovich Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 It affects all GPX files, both PQs and individual downloads. The main difference (for me) is the (re-)inclusion of attributes in 1.0.1. Since the current GSAK beta supports those attributes, color me happy. So 1.0.1 includes the attributes and 1.0 does not? If that is the case, how come my GSAK has the attributes in it and I'm only on 1.0 of GPX? Aren't the attributes just additional XML entries in the GPX file? Jon.
+beejay&esskay Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 So 1.0.1 includes the attributes and 1.0 does not? If that is the case, how come my GSAK has the attributes in it and I'm only on 1.0 of GPX? Aren't the attributes just additional XML entries in the GPX file? Jon. Yes, but those additional entries are not in 1.0. (At least they weren't. Don't make me switch back to check unless you are sure they are.) The caches with attributes that you have from GSAK were probably downloaded during the week in November that Groundspeak switched everything to 1.0.1. GSAK didn't forget those attributes.
+Jonovich Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 So 1.0.1 includes the attributes and 1.0 does not? If that is the case, how come my GSAK has the attributes in it and I'm only on 1.0 of GPX? Aren't the attributes just additional XML entries in the GPX file? Jon. Yes, but those additional entries are not in 1.0. (At least they weren't. Don't make me switch back to check unless you are sure they are.) The caches with attributes that you have from GSAK were probably downloaded during the week in November that Groundspeak switched everything to 1.0.1. GSAK didn't forget those attributes. Yes... you are correct. If I check new caches that were placed in the last week or so, they don't have attributes in GSAK, the ones that do were around since last November at least. Right, I'll switch my profile over to 1.0.1 and see how things progress from there... Are there any negatives to having 1.0.1? The fact it's a setting I have control of in my profile makes me think there is? Otherwise would 1.0.1 just have been turned on, replacing 1.0? Like it did last November? Many thanks, Jon.
+beejay&esskay Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Right, I'll switch my profile over to 1.0.1 and see how things progress from there... Are there any negatives to having 1.0.1? The fact it's a setting I have control of in my profile makes me think there is? Otherwise would 1.0.1 just have been turned on, replacing 1.0? Like it did last November? Many thanks, Jon. Some third-party applications had trouble with 1.0.1 when the switch was made in November. INATN was the only one I use that had problems, and it has been updated to handle it. The profile choice lets you switch back to 1.0 if you are negatively affected. I think it's an excellent way to get new data into the GPX files without waiting for every possible application to be updated to handle it. Edited January 13, 2010 by beejay&esskay
knowschad Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I have set my GPX to 1.0.1. Where in GSAK do the attributes show up? I would have expected a tab on the filters dialog and perhaps something in View/Add Columns.
+Jonovich Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 I have set my GPX to 1.0.1. Where in GSAK do the attributes show up? I would have expected a tab on the filters dialog and perhaps something in View/Add Columns. The attributes appear on the listing next to cache summary information (co-ords & travel bug resident details). Not sure if there is a delay on when you get 1.0.1 after turning it on, but I just flicked it on and submitted a couple of PQ's, but didn't get any attributes in the resultant PQ's... The only attributes I have in my GSAK are those from back in November.... Curious.... I'll try another PQ tomorrow, maybe it takes a while for the setting to take effect? J
+beejay&esskay Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Not sure if there is a delay on when you get 1.0.1 after turning it on, but I just flicked it on and submitted a couple of PQ's, but didn't get any attributes in the resultant PQ's... The only attributes I have in my GSAK are those from back in November.... Curious.... I'll try another PQ tomorrow, maybe it takes a while for the setting to take effect? J No delay, I think. But check your profile to see that change took place. The first time I tried it I must have clicked the wrong spot since I didn't have the change. You can verify the change is working by downloading a single GPX for a cache that has attributes.
+beejay&esskay Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I have set my GPX to 1.0.1. Where in GSAK do the attributes show up? I would have expected a tab on the filters dialog and perhaps something in View/Add Columns. Full support in GSAK requires the 7.7 beta. You'll see a new attributes tab in filters and the attributes are listed on the HTML print (and other places, but that's the one I cared about.) GSAK 7.6 is accumulating attribute information if present in the GPX files. There is a user macro to use these for selections and another to show the attributes, but details are probably better discussed at http://gsak.net/board/index.php?act=idx
+Jonovich Posted January 13, 2010 Author Posted January 13, 2010 No delay, I think. But check your profile to see that change took place. The first time I tried it I must have clicked the wrong spot since I didn't have the change. You can verify the change is working by downloading a single GPX for a cache that has attributes. Spot on again... You are VERY GOOD The setting hadn't stuck... (or maybe I didn't press save??? Can't say for sure) Just tried again and verified it had stuck before submitting my PQ's this time... Worked a treat! Thanks muchly for you your assistance, greatly appreciated! Cheers, Jon.
robertlipe Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 This option is also badly named. Both forms are still GPX 1.0. The Grounspeak extensio is what changes from 1.0 to 1.0.1
+L0ne.R Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Will this have an affect on Cacheberry users? Also, how do I make the switch? I don't see a link on my profile page to switch from 1.0 to 1.0.1.
+beejay&esskay Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 http://www.geocaching.com/account/ManagePreferences.aspx I have no idea who it might hurt.
+L0ne.R Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 http://www.geocaching.com/account/ManagePreferences.aspx Thank you.
+larryc43230 Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 The setting hadn't stuck... (or maybe I didn't press save??? Can't say for sure) Just tried again and verified it had stuck before submitting my PQ's this time... Worked a treat! I changed the setting for my account to GPX 1.0.1 yesterday, and definitely pressed Save. After reading this thread, I went back and checked my account details, and the change hadn't stuck. I've changed it to 1.0.1 once again; I hope it sticks this time, since I'd love to be able to have attributes included with my pocket queries. --Larry
knowschad Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I have set my GPX to 1.0.1. Where in GSAK do the attributes show up? I would have expected a tab on the filters dialog and perhaps something in View/Add Columns. Full support in GSAK requires the 7.7 beta. You'll see a new attributes tab in filters and the attributes are listed on the HTML print (and other places, but that's the one I cared about.) GSAK 7.6 is accumulating attribute information if present in the GPX files. There is a user macro to use these for selections and another to show the attributes, but details are probably better discussed at http://gsak.net/board/index.php?act=idx Ahhh... there's the problem. I'm running 7.6.2 here. Thanks!
knowschad Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I changed the setting for my account to GPX 1.0.1 yesterday, and definitely pressed Save. After reading this thread, I went back and checked my account details, and the change hadn't stuck. I've changed it to 1.0.1 once again; I hope it sticks this time, since I'd love to be able to have attributes included with my pocket queries.--Larry Aha! So... I'm not going crazy! I saw the same thing. I set it to 1.0.1 yesterday, clicked Save, and when I went back there just now, it was back to 1.0. Seems to be sticking now, at any rate.
robertlipe Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Yes, I think there's a "stickiness" problem in that option. That should be reported in the problem report thread over in the web group. Edited: this is the right group. just the wrong thread. Edited January 13, 2010 by robertlipe
robertlipe Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Grrr. Forum timeouts and double posts. Mod, please feel free to nuke. Edited January 13, 2010 by robertlipe
+simplysup Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I changed the setting for my account to GPX 1.0.1 yesterday, and definitely pressed Save. After reading this thread, I went back and checked my account details, and the change hadn't stuck. I've changed it to 1.0.1 once again; I hope it sticks this time, since I'd love to be able to have attributes included with my pocket queries.--Larry Aha! So... I'm not going crazy! I saw the same thing. I set it to 1.0.1 yesterday, clicked Save, and when I went back there just now, it was back to 1.0. Seems to be sticking now, at any rate. I had to do it twice to get it to stick.
knowschad Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 I will report it to the main upgrade thread, now that I see several confirmations.
+JC_Geo Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Hi folks, Just spotted in my Geocaching.com profile an option to switch between GPX 1.0 and GPX 1.0.1. I'm curious as to what the difference is between the two versions? Does this setting affect both the Pocket Queries GPX & individual Cache page GPX downloads? Cheers, Jon. Where is this option switch? I can't seem to find it on my profile page. Thanks
+larryc43230 Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 Where is this option switch? I can't seem to find it on my profile page. Thanks It's on this page. It's the last item, labeled "GPX Version Preference". --Larry
+The Fat Cats Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 How is 7.7 beta running, including all the patches? I'd love to test out the new attributes feature, but I'm nervous about beta. Thanks!
+beejay&esskay Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 How is 7.7 beta running, including all the patches? I'd love to test out the new attributes feature, but I'm nervous about beta. Thanks! Maybe a better topic at http://gsak.net/board/index.php?showforum=36 The good news is if you switch to 1.0.1 GSAK 7.6 will be accumulating all the attributes. I'm happily using 7.7 and have been for a while...but if betas make you nervous, maybe it's not time yet for you. (Clyde lists fixes made...you can read his list and think "If I were running the beta software, how upset would I be if this error had happened to me.")
knowschad Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 How is 7.7 beta running, including all the patches? I'd love to test out the new attributes feature, but I'm nervous about beta. Thanks! Maybe a better topic at http://gsak.net/board/index.php?showforum=36 The good news is if you switch to 1.0.1 GSAK 7.6 will be accumulating all the attributes. I'm happily using 7.7 and have been for a while...but if betas make you nervous, maybe it's not time yet for you. (Clyde lists fixes made...you can read his list and think "If I were running the beta software, how upset would I be if this error had happened to me.") Betas make me nervous. As do final releases. Notice any changes around here recently? LOL! Finaly releases with GSAK seem to be quite solid, with generally only minor fixes in the minor version releases, but betas are for testers, not for cachers. I'll wait, thanks!
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