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Im a new at this. I found a cache (mockingbird heights) in Keller, TX. when I went to log my visit the cache was not in the system. I'm not sure what happened. I earlier downloaded the cache to my GPS from the website, now it's no longer there. Can anyone help?

 

Did the cache have the GC code listed on it? On all my caches I put my GC number on it. Since your in Texas as well, many cities in Texas now require the GC code be listed somewhere on &/or in the container.

 

What was the GC code in your GPSr?

 

It is possible it could have been archived between the time you downloaded it and the time you went to find it.

 

Let us know what the GC code is.

 

Thanks

 

TGC

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Im a new at this. I found a cache (mockingbird heights) in Keller, TX. when I went to log my visit the cache was not in the system. I'm not sure what happened. I earlier downloaded the cache to my GPS from the website, now it's no longer there. Can anyone help?
If you can't find the GC number anywhere on the cache, ask one of the other local cachers if they have found it, and if so, what the GC code was. Even though a cache is archived, the cache still shows up when a user asks for a full list of their finds (either on gc.com or by PQ). So anyone who has found it and is willing to look can give you the GC code.

 

If you already have the GC code and nothing shows up when you type in the number, you'll want to recheck the GC code (asking, per above) -- even archived caches appear when you type in the right code from the main page here at gc.com.

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It's obvious why an archived cache wouldn't show up, but I'm curious as to why a cache that is still out there (and being found apparently) would be archived?
First, it may not be "still out there". Could be it was removed and archived right after the OP found it. One hopes the owner removed it, anyway, unless -- see 2nd item, below.

 

As for why archiving of otherwise perfectly good caches:

 

Common: Owner moves out of town or drops out of the game and doesn't feel like having the cache adopted. One of our best known (and prolific) cachers here in Colorado moved out of state and archived his caches to make room for new owners to place 'em.

 

Less Common: Owner decides to bail on gc.com in favor of another posting site. Cache is archived at gc.com but still active elsewhere.

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It's obvious why an archived cache wouldn't show up, but I'm curious as to why a cache that is still out there (and being found apparently) would be archived?
In this case, it looks like the owner thought it was gone (since he was considering replacing it), and decided to archive it instead. The cache may still be there (caches migrate, and sometimes owners DNF them), or people may be finding some other container and thinking it is the archived cache.
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It's obvious why an archived cache wouldn't show up, but I'm curious as to why a cache that is still out there (and being found apparently) would be archived?
In this case, it looks like the owner thought it was gone (since he was considering replacing it), and decided to archive it instead. The cache may still be there (caches migrate, and sometimes owners DNF them), or people may be finding some other container and thinking it is the archived cache.

 

Another possible scenario...

 

Owner places cache

 

The cache is logged as missing (it may actually be missing or at least moved).

 

Cache owner goes out to verify it's missing and can't find it

 

Cache owner archives cache...

 

Someone comes along and can't find the cache, doesn't know that it's been archived and drops a replacement container.

 

The OP finds the replacement cache.

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I'm curious what type of container would be hidden that would let ants get inside it. If it's not ant proof, then it most likely isn't waterproof.
Might not need to be. I've run across perfectly dry caches (dry because of the specifics of the placement of the container, definitely not their waterproof nature) that were full of "earwigs".

 

Still, I'd like to hear back from the OP. If I understood the original post correctly, he thought he had the right GC code to start with, but if he did, the cache page itself should be available, even the icon ceased to appear on his map of the area because it had been archived.

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I'm curious what type of container would be hidden that would let ants get inside it. If it's not ant proof, then it most likely isn't waterproof.
Might not need to be. I've run across perfectly dry caches (dry because of the specifics of the placement of the container, definitely not their waterproof nature) that were full of "earwigs".

 

Still, I'd like to hear back from the OP. If I understood the original post correctly, he thought he had the right GC code to start with, but if he did, the cache page itself should be available, even the icon ceased to appear on his map of the area because it had been archived.

I'm the OP. This was only my second cache found. I'm still trying to get a grasp on how all this works. I just learned (by all of the replies to my post) about "GC codes". I didn't realize how important that was. Thanks to all of you I did find the cache archived and tried to log my find. As to some of the other questions, the ants are not in the cache, but all around the cache area. This cache is nailed down with a removable lid.

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I'm the OP. This was only my second cache found. I'm still trying to get a grasp on how all this works. I just learned (by all of the replies to my post) about "GC codes". I didn't realize how important that was. Thanks to all of you I did find the cache archived and tried to log my find. As to some of the other questions, the ants are not in the cache, but all around the cache area. This cache is nailed down with a removable lid.

Hey! Glad to hear that you were able to resurrect the cache page and log it. Would have been a shame to lose track of your 2nd find.

 

Yes, everything here is keyed to an identification code of one kind or another, especially the caches themselves. Every time a potential cache owner begins work on a new cache page, a new GC (waypoint) code is assigned in sequence. WAY back when, they started with really low numbers like GC23 (that's our oldest in Colorado, I think). They leave out certain potentially ambiguous letters like "S" and "I". They then moved up into GC1A0 numbers, and you'll see ones like GCWA2F, but we're now clear up into five characters and well into the GC1Y000 series caches with only GC1Z000 series to go before.... I think there's actually a pool around here somewhere for when we'll see cache GC20000.

 

Anyway, every new cache page that is created, even if it eventually goes belly up as a cache (we call these "archived"), retains its own GC code. It's how you find caches now, and how you can refer to ones you've found at some point in the future. The site helps you keep track of all of them. Reading the pages at geocaching.com in the "Getting Started" section will help, but there's a lot more available here: http://www.geocaching.com/faq/

 

We look forward to seeing your name here again.

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