+ram968pt Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 My wife forward this notice to me & I thought I would pass it on. This is rather disturbing, but a sign of the times. Please share this with everyone you know. Subject: FW: Roadside Cleanup and Hike Danger BE AWARE We had an incident yesterday on State Game Lands #198 in Blair county! F&C crew was out painting boundary and pulled off the road into a pull off and saw a 5 gallon plastic gas container. One of the guys went to retrieve it and realized something wasn't right when he saw it had been drilled and had 2 fittings attached to it and it was "Cookin". They called the WCO who came over and immediately called PSP because he thought it was a "One Pot" operation. They sent their Meth Lab Team over from Greensburg and Butler to take care of it. Turns out, the on scene Chemist determined it was an anhydrous ammonia generator from a big operation and it was still working. There is no doubt our guys are going to be coming across some of the one pot operations on their patrols. From what I have read there are several ways of doing the one pot method and one is to add some of the ingredients and let it work for a while then add a little more and repeat until all ingredients are added and it is done. That method reduces (?) the danger/odds of explosion. The other method is to add everything at once and let it cook until done. I suspect this method will be popular because they will just go to an isolated area (SGL or State Forest) mix a batch up and leave the area and come back later to see if it exploded or to retrieve it after it is done. This method is the one our guys are most likely to encounter and the odds of explosion if it is disturbed is higher. Boalsburg Fire Co. in Centre County was sent out with the PSP on Wednesday while they dismantled a "Meth Lab" on Bear Meadows Rd. The "meth Lab" consisted of several soda bottles sitting harmlessly in the woods. They now can make the meth without "cooking" it. The chemicals are mixed in the containers and left setting in the woods to vent and cure. The Fireman were told if an unsuspecting person would have kicked the bottles over at the wrong time, they would have exploded. Be alert for a group of un-naturally grouped bottles while afield. Just another danger to tuck away. Gerald McKernan | Environmental Emergency Response Manager Department of Environmental Protection 208 West Third Street, Suite 101, Williamsport, PA 17701 Phone: (570) 327-3722 | Fax: (570) 327-3565 Quote Link to comment
+BrrrMo Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 My wife forward this notice to me & I thought I would pass it on. This is rather disturbing, but a sign of the times. Please share this with everyone you know. Subject: FW: Roadside Cleanup and Hike Danger BE AWARE We had an incident yesterday on State Game Lands #198 in Blair county! F&C crew was out painting boundary and pulled off the road into a pull off and saw a 5 gallon plastic gas container. One of the guys went to retrieve it and realized something wasn't right when he saw it had been drilled and had 2 fittings attached to it and it was "Cookin". They called the WCO who came over and immediately called PSP because he thought it was a "One Pot" operation. They sent their Meth Lab Team over from Greensburg and Butler to take care of it. Turns out, the on scene Chemist determined it was an anhydrous ammonia generator from a big operation and it was still working. There is no doubt our guys are going to be coming across some of the one pot operations on their patrols. From what I have read there are several ways of doing the one pot method and one is to add some of the ingredients and let it work for a while then add a little more and repeat until all ingredients are added and it is done. That method reduces (?) the danger/odds of explosion. The other method is to add everything at once and let it cook until done. I suspect this method will be popular because they will just go to an isolated area (SGL or State Forest) mix a batch up and leave the area and come back later to see if it exploded or to retrieve it after it is done. This method is the one our guys are most likely to encounter and the odds of explosion if it is disturbed is higher. Boalsburg Fire Co. in Centre County was sent out with the PSP on Wednesday while they dismantled a "Meth Lab" on Bear Meadows Rd. The "meth Lab" consisted of several soda bottles sitting harmlessly in the woods. They now can make the meth without "cooking" it. The chemicals are mixed in the containers and left setting in the woods to vent and cure. The Fireman were told if an unsuspecting person would have kicked the bottles over at the wrong time, they would have exploded. Be alert for a group of un-naturally grouped bottles while afield. Just another danger to tuck away. Gerald McKernan | Environmental Emergency Response Manager Department of Environmental Protection 208 West Third Street, Suite 101, Williamsport, PA 17701 Phone: (570) 327-3722 | Fax: (570) 327-3565 Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment
+nekom Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I wonder what's more dangerous: Finding a hidden meth lab, or wandering near one when the criminal making it is around. Quote Link to comment
+steel city babes Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 Wow!!! Thanks for the heads up....crazy. Quote Link to comment
+Knight2000 Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I wonder what's more dangerous: Finding a hidden meth lab, or wandering near one when the criminal making it is around. You win the prize. Some cachers have done this too. Has anyone read up on what meth does? It makes you very paranoid. Imagine stumbling upon their setup caching with a paranoid meth person there. Caching is a lot more dangerous than people think. Quote Link to comment
+Sol seaker Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 I think it's not just caching, but even just hiking in the woods where you could run across this, so it's not just a danger to cachers, (although perhaps cachers are more likely to want to check out the containers). "Caching is a lot more dangerous than people think." Quote Link to comment
+ram968pt Posted April 13, 2009 Author Share Posted April 13, 2009 What is nuts is the this was not even on our local news. Here in Pa our fishing season starts on the 18th, as well a our youth turkey season. The state campgrounds are opening this month as well. Warmer weather is finally coming so the woods will be full of people. Quote Link to comment
+gof1 Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 What is nuts is the this was not even on our local news. Here in Pa our fishing season starts on the 18th, as well a our youth turkey season. The state campgrounds are opening this month as well. Warmer weather is finally coming so the woods will be full of people. Perhaps you can forward the notice to your local media yourself. Quote Link to comment
+roziecakes Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 I am going to share this info at the CITO event I am attending this weekend. Thanks much. -Rozie Quote Link to comment
Clan Riffster Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) The trend here is for folks to cook their meth in mobil labs out in the woods. When they finish, they dump the toxins and move to the next spot. Edited April 14, 2009 by Clan Riffster Quote Link to comment
+3doxies Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 That's a good reminder RE awareness of our surroundings in the woods. Many moons ago as a young pup, was hunting back in the hills around here. Emerged into a clearing down in a holler, and was only 50 yards or so away from a well-maintained still (moonshine, white lightnin', whatever your local vernacular may call illegal whiskey). Fortunately, no one home - needless to say, made a very quick exit. And as several have pointed out above, these modern day illegal activities are far more dangerous: both the people and the materials are far more violent-natured. Quote Link to comment
+JBnW Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 At the risk of cross-posting too much; here's a thread from the CIOT forum: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...86399&st=50 About half-way down is a poster of many of the ingredients used in meth labs. Somethings to be on the lookout for while CITOing. Cheers Quote Link to comment
+mndvs737 Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 If you do stumble across a site, do notjust turn around a beat a hasty retreat. Many of the cookers will place booby-traps near their site to protect it. Try and trace the route you came in on back out, but be cautious, as you may have missed a wire or something on the way in and hit it as you rush back out. Also, mark the location with your GPS and call LE as soon as you are in a clear area. Quote Link to comment
+steel city babes Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just a bump, to keep awareness up... Keep this in mind as CITO events are coming into play at this time. I would really hate to see some unsuspecting person/geocacher doing a good deed and have something devastating happen. SCB Quote Link to comment
+Sparticus06 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Man it is not even safe to go in to the woods anymore. I live in PA, and that just makes me nervous. Glad I am usually packing when out in the woods. Quote Link to comment
+gdpsych Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I wonder what's more dangerous: Finding a hidden meth lab, or wandering near one when the criminal making it is around. I think in the manufacturing of meth someone is needed to be near by at all times. Quote Link to comment
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