+biboleck30 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hi, does anybody of you know if there are any plans to get further updates of the player? The current version of this beta seems to be full of a lot of bugs, which looks like an alpha. Quote Link to comment
delta123 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Could someone from Groundpeak pleeease,pleeease,pleease give us ALL some info on the future of this Wherigo-project? Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Could someone from Groundpeak pleeease,pleeease,pleease give us ALL some info on the future of this Wherigo-project? It would be nice if Groundspeak would clarify. Some friends were at the maze in Rochester last week and heard rumours that Wherigo is dead. I hope not. Edited February 9, 2009 by Tequila Quote Link to comment
+northernpenguin Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It would be nice if Groundspeak would clarify. Some friends where at the maze in Rochester last week and heard rumours that Wherigo is dead. I hope not. .... dead That would really be too bad. Wherigo is a great activity, and just starting to get some traction too. Hopefully the Java player will motivate Groundspeak to rethink that stance. It IS a pity that we're not seeing WiG clients on Delorme, Magellan (other) units. I've also noticed there is no Wherigo player mentioned in the Nuvifone announcement. Garmin hasn't said "no" yet (ask #nuvifone on Twitter) but they haven't put that in their marketing materials that I've seen so far either. Quote Link to comment
+MickEMT Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Could someone from Groundpeak pleeease,pleeease,pleease give us ALL some info on the future of this Wherigo-project? It would be nice if Groundspeak would clarify. Some friends were at the maze in Rochester last week and heard rumours that Wherigo is dead. I hope not. NOT TRUE AT ALL! I was at the maze event in Rochester on Sat. The night before, there was an unofficial "meet & greet" with Shauna from Groundspeak. I had the chance to speak with her about Wherigo, and was told that it is NOT dead. There are some things in the works, including some news on the builder issue that should be announced soon. Quote Link to comment
a_snail Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 With more and more devices becoming available that can play Wherigos (especially on mobile phones), it seems a bit silly to abandon it now. I doubt Garmin would have bothered with Wherigos for the Oregon if they though it would all fizzle out. Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Could someone from Groundpeak pleeease,pleeease,pleease give us ALL some info on the future of this Wherigo-project? It would be nice if Groundspeak would clarify. Some friends were at the maze in Rochester last week and heard rumours that Wherigo is dead. I hope not. NOT TRUE AT ALL! I was at the maze event in Rochester on Sat. The night before, there was an unofficial "meet & greet" with Shauna from Groundspeak. I had the chance to speak with her about Wherigo, and was told that it is NOT dead. There are some things in the works, including some news on the builder issue that should be announced soon. that is good news. Thanks Mick. I wish Groundspeak would hire a publicist. They are lousy at PR. Quote Link to comment
+Geinponem Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I was at the maze event in Rochester on Sat. The night before, there was an unofficial "meet & greet" with Shauna from Groundspeak. I had the chance to speak with her about Wherigo, and was told that it is NOT dead.There are some things in the works, including some news on the builder issue that should be announced soon. Great! Can someone of Groundspeak confirm this information? Please? Quote Link to comment
+coreynjoey Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 See Jeremy's Post The short response is that the Wherigo project isn't dead. It isn't, however, getting the attention it deserves for a couple reasons. First, last year was the year of the iPhone and with it came some intense pressure to bring geocaching to the iPhone. Resources that would have gone to Wherigo shifted to the iPhone. This is, on the whole, good, since the iPhone device is one of the most powerful connected devices with GPS out there today. It is also a lot more accessible, particularly with updates, than the Garmin Colorado and Oregon. It is very hard for us to release updates to the Wherigo Player on the Garmin devices by the sheer nature of the best. A disconnected device gets far less updates than a connected one. (the underlying hope is a Wherigo application for iPhone, but that's down the road a bit) Secondly, resources in general have been tough to come by due to the demands of geocaching. The traffic continues to grow and we end up spending more time on geocaching because it has more traction and it pays the bills. It's hard to develop Wherigo with the lights out. Speaking of lights, however, there is a light at the end of the tunnel for Wherigo. We're currently in the process of putting together more support behind the web based building tool, codenamed Earwigo. In addition to supporting a web tool and opening it up to a broader audience, we plan to open source the Wherigo Builder for some brave soul, or souls, to take over. Otherwise we'll focus primarily on the Wherigo web version so we have one place to manage the projects. Our hope is to have something up and running before the beginning of the outdoor season towards the end of May, but the likelihood is we'll open the web tool before then for feedback. What Nick has done with his Earwigo project is pretty great and we hope to expose it to a larger audience. I hope this helps. In the meantime my goal is to get someone at Groundspeak to "man" the forums along with the great work that Ranger Fox is doing here already. That way you'll know you still have the ear of Groundspeak in the Wherigo forums. Quote Link to comment
+Tequila Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Encouraging response. Interesting comment about Garmin. One thing to consider is that GPS enabled Pocket PC's do not seem to have the GPS reliability of an actual GPS. Quote Link to comment
+busterang Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 In regards to Jeremy's statement... We're currently in the process of putting together more support behind the web based building tool, codenamed Earwigo. I hope that the web based builder is similar to GPSMISSION for iPhone. It is a nice simple drag and drop system for making zone locations, then WYSISYG riddles/actions and picking up coins to earn points. Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) I hope that the web based builder is similar to GPSMISSION for iPhone. Nope. Using Earwigo feels somewhat like using the Groundspeak builder but with quite a lot less clicking. But in the 300 hours or so of programming which I've done to build it, I didn't have time to write a drag-and-drop interface. Wherigo is at least an order of magnitude more powerful (and therefore "complicated") than GpsMission. The ability to specify what happens in the various event handlers means that it's hard to have a drag-and-drop interface. Such a program could be useful for creating cartridges which use only a small subset of Wherigo's functionality, though. A number of people have suggested that the barrier to entry with Wherigo is too high. When I started writing Earwigo, I had the following design goals: - Be feature compatible with the Groundspeak builder - Allow multilingual cartridges (with correct accented characters, as far as they are supported by the hardware) and a multilingual builder interface - Less clicking and more re-use of objects. (If you have two tasks, say, that differ only slightly, you can define one, copy it, and make a few changes to the copy.) Cartridges created with Earwigo can be read by the Groundspeak builder, unless you use some of Earwigo's extended functionality like play-anywhere. However, reading existing Lua files was not a design goal (I wrote the program initially for me, and I didn't have any cartridges...), so it can't do that. But I bet Matejcik could write code to do it. Edited March 18, 2009 by sTeamTraen Quote Link to comment
+Captain Gore-tex Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Is Earwigo likely to be open for general release soon? Quote Link to comment
Firemeboy Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 In addition to supporting a web tool and opening it up to a broader audience, we plan to open source the Wherigo Builder for some brave soul, or souls, to take over. Best news ever. Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Is Earwigo likely to be open for general release soon? Only Groundspeak can tell you that. But feel free to contact me via my profile if you'd like a preview. Quote Link to comment
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