+Tweedledum & Tweedledee Posted March 29, 2007 Author Posted March 29, 2007 What people need to do is separate travelers from finding caches. They are not about finding caches. They are about being found in caches, being moved from cache to cache. Foremost they are about their missions. They are not about being a reward for the cacher who made their way to a cache. They are the reward to the cacher who helped it move through the caching world. If it’s about icons, well then I really don’t care if you missed it. And I really don’t have any sympathy about how someone cheated you from an icon. And I’d probably be annoyed to hear your complaints, especially if all you wanted to do was Discover it. I think this posting should be for a different thread. The one about people emailing others for trackable numbers to get more icons. This tread is about people going to their own caches to beat others to getting rare items that I called coins in the original posting, and upon going back and looking at the logs the coins in question were not even trackables. Just rare coins like the Easter Bunny Coin. Quote
+BlueDeuce Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 (edited) What people need to do is separate travelers from finding caches. They are not about finding caches. They are about being found in caches, being moved from cache to cache. Foremost they are about their missions. They are not about being a reward for the cacher who made their way to a cache. They are the reward to the cacher who helped it move through the caching world. If it’s about icons, well then I really don’t care if you missed it. And I really don’t have any sympathy about how someone cheated you from an icon. And I’d probably be annoyed to hear your complaints, especially if all you wanted to do was Discover it. I think this posting should be for a different thread. The one about people emailing others for trackable numbers to get more icons. This tread is about people going to their own caches to beat others to getting rare items that I called coins in the original posting, and upon going back and looking at the logs the coins in question were not even trackables. Just rare coins like the Easter Bunny Coin. Edit: Sorry, I didn't realize these were non-gc.com-trackable swag. Edited March 29, 2007 by BlueDeuce Quote
+ArtieD Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 (edited) I still have to argue that any cache is fair game and I don't care who owns it...period! For you to insinuate that I am doing something sneaky, underhanded, wrong or odd only means that you think we don't have the right to partake in the same goodies that is fair game to every other cacher. Somehow, the cache owner is not "worthy" to visit their own cache because he knows where it's at and that's just not sporty of us! I say too bad! If the person leaving the item doesn't want the owner to know about it, they can NOT list it in the log! edit to remove snide remark! Your right I think it is sneaky, underhanded, wrong, and odd. But, that doesn't mean that that I think that others shouldn't have the right to partake in anything they want to do. This posting is just a prime example of how people, especially you, are twisting my words. For the love of Pete...quit saying people are twisting your words!!! No one is twisting anything...you think it's wrong that cache owners go get items which are left in their caches, despite the fact that A. the cache and its contents belong to the owner, and B. the person who left the specific goody may WANT the owner to have it. Get off of it, already. No matter what you claim, I'll bet YOU missed out on something like a GSA or GCF coin and now you're peeved... Edited March 29, 2007 by Arthur & Trillian Quote
+Rockin Roddy Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 You think it's wrong, but you think we should be able to do it...which is it? There's no need to twist your words for you! Quote
+Tweedledum & Tweedledee Posted March 29, 2007 Author Posted March 29, 2007 You think it's wrong, but you think we should be able to do it...which is it? There's no need to twist your words for you! I think its wrong, but I think you are allowed to do whatever you want to do. Quote
Trinity's Crew Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 You have made your disdain for owners who "raid" their own caches abundantly clear. What is your opinion of cachers who re-visit a cache they already found to retrieve a rare or valuable item? Quote
+SixDogTeam Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Wonder what's REALLy going on here?? More than has been revealed so far, I'll be willing to bet... Quote
+ArtieD Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Wonder what's REALLy going on here?? More than has been revealed so far, I'll be willing to bet... I completely agree...methinks that someone wouldn't worry so much about this had he not missed out on something he really wanted. I think something like a GSA coin was dropped and the cache owner got it before him and now he's all mad. I know, I know....it isn't about a coin or anything...but why else would he even bring this up? Quote
+TotemLake Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 I see little difference between re-visiting my cache or another that I found before. The goal is to keep a trackable going and moving - not to use them as "bait" for addtional visits. It's not bait if the owner rushes out smae day coin is dropped. And WHERE IS THE SPORT? Where is the sport in finding your own cache! I think this is where you are making your mistake. The owner isn't "finding" his cache. Finding it implies he doesn't know where it is. The owner is doing a maintenance check. It sounds like you tried to get a limited perspective of how the game should be played validated and it didn't happen. Quote
+Shawn&Holly Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 I see little difference between re-visiting my cache or another that I found before. The goal is to keep a trackable going and moving - not to use them as "bait" for addtional visits. It's not bait if the owner rushes out smae day coin is dropped. And WHERE IS THE SPORT? Where is the sport in finding your own cache! I think this is where you are making your mistake. The owner isn't "finding" his cache. Finding it implies he doesn't know where it is. The owner is doing a maintenance check. It sounds like you tried to get a limited perspective of how the game should be played validated and it didn't happen. Maintenance check sounds good, did this the other day to swap TBs and coins, once placed in a cache, they should be fair game to anyone willing to pick up said TB or coin to help move it along on its journey. Quote
+Rockin Roddy Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 Would it be alright to attend my own event since I AM throwing it...or would you frown on that as well? Sure wouldn't be much of an event since I'm pretty much in charge of the operations. For that matter, I am the owner of the Cache Across America Michigan cache...I haven't logged it as a find yet, BUT...I will soon as I do plan to try to complete this series some day...I suppose you frown on that too? Maybe...when an item gets dropped, I should stipulate that the person placing the item in my cache should re-hide the cache so I don't know where it is? Wow...I could have my God-Son go out and move all my caches into new hiding locations (yet still in the very close proximity)...would that make it any more sporty...would I be less underhanded then? Your complaint is silly and that's MY opinion! Quote
+Vanillahip Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 The complaint is not silly in my opinion. Roddy, it's easy to come up with ludicrous situations where the OP's protestations seem stupid. That doesn't help me or anyone else who is wondering what they think about it understand why it is ok with you. Having said that, I have changed my mind a bit after reading this thread. I will now taunt my brother less for grabbing trackables out of his own caches. Especially since he logs everything at my house so I get to discover them! Heheheh I really love this game. Quote
+Rockin Roddy Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 You are right vanillahip...I'd already used all my common sense replies up and was just shooting from the hip there! I'm glad you read back through to better understand why that comment was made...this has been going far too long and all in circles! I could understand the protest if I (or anyone else) were to just continually grab items out without trading...that's not caching! I could MAYBE even see the point being argued if this were done on a fairly regular basis (I've done this a few times, mostly for TBs...but once for a great unactivated coin)...but it's not...and why? People don't come around every day dropping off "rare" coins and such into our caches...or they wouldn't be rare, now would they? Heaven forbid that, on that rare occassion a nice peice of swag wanders into our neighborhood it should land in my cache, or I'll not be allowed to benefit like all the others out there! BS! Quote
+Arrow One Posted March 29, 2007 Posted March 29, 2007 When I do maintence runs or restocking runs on my caches, sometimes there are tbs or coins in them. If I can help it move I will, or I use the discover option for a coin. Yes, I like the icons, but its a simple way to remember what I have seen, by checking the list on my profile. I may not have as many as a lot of cachers, but in the field, sometimes they get jumbled. My cache, my prefrence. Who cares what I do? I dont care what anyone else does. If I take something some one has left as a trade item, I trade for it. Thats just me. Quote
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