evenfall Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 (edited) leighhale - I think what you may have found is a different mark. The reason I think that is that you found a mark with the Geodetic Survey logo on it and the KE0135 was monumented by the Coast and Geodetic Survey (CGS). You find this out when you click on the place in the datasheet that says "view original datasheet" and look at the place that says "KE0135 HISTORY - 1950 MONUMENTED CGS". The Geodetic Survey didn't exist in 1950. If you found "part of the stamping", it could be a reset mark. It is extremely likely that if you found a re-set mark, the original mark KE0135 is gone now. A re-set mark will say something like "G 231 RESET". I don't really know what you meant by: "With only part of the stamping I was looking for. ". I'm assuming maybe you found a disk that said G 231 RESET. In any case, the main thing is that if you found a disk that says "G 231" (without the "RESET" part) then you post a Found-it. Otherwise, you should post a Not-Found and upload your pictures anyway. (Posting a Note instead of a Not-Found is usually used when there was a basic problem with looking for the mark, like a big fence blocking you, total confusion, or something. ) After you log the mark with whatever kind of log you choose, then you have the opportunity to click on a place to upload a picture. BD, You must obviously be trying to see how often I can sort this out for you. I can tell you that at the beginning of this thread you said "the majority of CGS monumentations are not in the Database we use" If this is so, then "Houston? We Have a Problem!" Now you say the Geodetic Survey didn't exist in 1950... But I am afraid it did. That is just plain not true. The CGS, or CG&S or USCG&S is the Coast and Geodetic Survey. The very same, continually operating government agency it has been for 198 years now, but with a name change in the 1970's when they became a department governed under NOAA... Today it is known as the NGS or the National Geodetic Survey. They never missed a beat and have only ever had their database. Still the agency for geodetic control for nearly 200 years, and the longest operating scientific agency in the US Government. So how would you justify that most of their marks are not in the database we use, when their very database is the database we use? Perhaps the majority of what you may remember about the NGS needs a brush up eh? Perhaps your memory will be refreshed by some of these? http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PUBS_LIB/geodetic_survey_1807.html http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PUBS_LIB/geodetic_...eying_1940.html http://www.photolib.noaa.gov/historic/c&gs/geodesy.html Please BlackDog, I feel you see yourself as an authority on this subject and are quick to answer questions for people here, and I respect your desire to help, but in your zeal, you seem to miss some important details. A good bit of what you have told the Leighhale is way super questionable. From the beginning of this thread on up to today, I find what you seem to know about this topic as not terribly accurate or well understood. Thinking back over many conversations over the past year, you have attempted to take me to task many times, over facts that are historically documented and easily researched. Why you seem to enjoy arguing with people who work in the survey field over things they know professionally is a very interesting question. You are even known not to accept the answers that the Chief Geodetic Surveyor of the NGS gives you, but things are what they are never the less, even if you aren't convinced. The Facts again speak for themselves. Please, no haughty smirks are necessary, just simply put your pride aside and do your homework. It's not about any of us, It should be about trying to be as correct as we can. Oh and for clarity, the 2 ways the game is played DOES cause confusion as this thread continues to point out and that is why I raised the comments I made. Though some of you feel violently at odds with me for my opinion, in fact some of you have been a lot less than kind or constructive in your arguments with me, yet I continue to espouse the same sentiment and I am further justified in doing so by the continued confusion. I would like to see Geocaching follow NGS as it would be of no harm at all and a lot less confusing. Rob Edited August 23, 2005 by evenfall Quote Link to comment
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