+koneko Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 hey all, while caching i found a BMark - snapped a picture of it (which i can't upload right now, but will later) - and now am trying to locate it online - i've tried the nearest benchmarks link on the cache page we were near, but nothing is ringing a bell - any suggestions until i post the pic? (tomorrow am) thanks jenn Quote Link to comment
2oldfarts (the rockhounders) Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 If you know what was stamped on the disk you can go to the 'find a benchmark' page and click on the 'other search options' button (right below the space for the PID#). Search by designation is what you will want to use. Good luck, John Quote Link to comment
+Klemmer Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 IF THERE ARE "DASHES" TRY IT ALSO WITH SPACES REPLACING THE DASHES. WORKS SOMETIMES. ALSO TRY IT WITH NO SPACES OR DASHES. Quote Link to comment
+koneko Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 the benchmark - am i reading that right? 8 JWM 1950? there's a pic of the survey marker near the sky bridge sign. jenn Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Koneko, I'm not having much luck searching in the Geocache database. What were the coordinates at/near the benchmark? I've searched on the National Geodetic Survey website for a 30 mile radius around N30, W90 degrees, which was a coordinate listed for the park. No luck. The mark might be outside that range, though, as the park is elongated. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment
GH55 Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 a 30 mile radius around N30, W90 degrees I believe N 30 W 90 is in New Orleans, La. Also entertain the possiblity that this USGS marker that is not in the NGS database. Quote Link to comment
evenfall Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 (edited) Hi Jenn, GH 55 Is likely right. There are many survey monuments which we may come across in our travels, but not all of them are in the the database which Geocaching uses to play the benchmark hunting Game. if it is not, then we cannot use it as a game piece. If you are interested in hunting these more specifically, we have found it works best to look in the database for included game piece benchmarks in our local area and then specifically try to go find them. We hunt only Survey markers that are kept track of by the National Geodetic Survey. What you have found is a monument that was placed by a different agency, the USGS or Geological Survey. While some USGS monuments are listed and included in the NGS data, many are not, and so some times when we happen across these as a matter of course, we can play the game with them, and other times we can't. Sorry, I wish we could help you more, but if you like, there was a recent post here in the forum, I would say within the last few weeks, where someone had started a webpage for listing survey marks that are not listed on geocaching. Perhaps you would like to see if anyone else has found this mark, or, you could add it to that list, and the Benchmark FAQ Page has a lot of other great information you may find helpful to know if you find anymore of these while Geocaching. Have Fun! Rob Edited March 31, 2005 by evenfall Quote Link to comment
+BuckBrooke Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Yikes. I really bollixed that one. That's what I get for trying to do work at 8:00 in the morning without coffee or tea. Quote Link to comment
+PFF Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I'm with the other responders, on this one. Give some additional information, such as the lat/long where you found it, or the identification of a nearby benchmark. Using NGS wildcards, a name search of Kentucky benchmarks came up nil for: 8 JW 8 J JW 1105 -Paul- Quote Link to comment
+koneko Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 i tend to agree with most posters - this was one i stumbled on, not one that i sought out - i actually have a few benchmark finds under my belt so am mostly familiar with hunting them - we just came on this one by accident and i thought i'd snag it - though i didn't realize there are some benchmarks NOT in the NGS database - you learn something new everyday! i also came up with a big fat zero on the 'other' search - thanks to those who suggested it. and for those asking, the nearest cache is this one: GC9879 thanks all! jenn Quote Link to comment
CallawayMT Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 (edited) Here is an image with your USGS benchmark. CallawayMT Edited March 31, 2005 by CallawayMT Quote Link to comment
+PFF Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Ditto on the map. Interesting area...would love to explore it, someday. I did a search with NGS outward ten miles from N37-49-08, W083-34-45. Closest mark was SWIFT at 1.9 miles. No descriptions matching what was stamped on the disk. My conclusion: It's simply one of the numerous disks that are not in the data base. -Paul- Quote Link to comment
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