+sTeamTraen Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) As a "UK" geocacher who has never had a find in the UK, I thought I'd blow my own trumpet here Nick, from France. Edited December 21, 2004 by sTeamTraen Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 (edited) (deleted) Edited December 21, 2004 by sTeamTraen Quote Link to comment
+Silver Horde Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 I'm a UK cacher too with my 300th cache looming into view but although I have cached in the UK most of my finds are in the US with just a couple in France!! ttfn jane San Diego CA Quote Link to comment
+MarcB Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 Nice one - keep caching for Britain! MarcB Quote Link to comment
+kbootb Posted December 21, 2004 Share Posted December 21, 2004 And extra congrats for doing it from cache poor France! Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 21, 2004 Author Share Posted December 21, 2004 As I never tire of saying: "thank goodness for Germany". I know the whole of the UK shares my opinion on this Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) sTeamTraen, How is it that you bagged a cache in Sligo, Ireland on the 21st December, then found a cache in Germany, east of Strasbourg on the same day, and then found time at 2.43pm in the day to make this post? There is no international flight to either France or Germany for at least a 100 mile radius of Sligo. Also, there are several drive by caches in the vicinity of the cache you say you found in Sligo, which would be hard for a veteran cacher to ignore. I simply don't believe for one minute that you were ever there. I smell a rat, a great big wet one in fact. Edited December 28, 2004 by klaus23 Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) How is it that you bagged a cache in Sligo, Ireland on the 21st December, then found a cache in Germany, east of Strasbourg on the same day, and then found time at 2.43pm in the day to make this post? It's a virtual that just requires an email to be sent saying what is at the co-ords. Nowhere does it say you have to actually go there. Edited December 28, 2004 by Stuey Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I sincerely doubt it somehow. Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 In fact, if you type - Come and Pray Sligo - into Google, the 9th entry reveals all. Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 It's a virtual that just requires an email to be sent saying what is at the co-ords. Nowhere does it say you have to actually go there. Stuey that's not really in the spirit of the game. In that case the cache is better treated as a locationless one Quote Link to comment
+Donnacha Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 people who log caches like this only care about getting their numbers up. i have been to that site and it's a beautiful area....that's what I thought geocaching was about...getting out and seeing the sites. Sure anyone can use google, and if i wanted could prob spend an hour on google and add another 100 finds to my total...but i prefer to get out. Quote Link to comment
+wildlifewriter Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 .. Sure anyone can use google, and if i wanted could prob spend an hour on google and add another 100 finds to my total...but i prefer to get out. This is why I don't do virtual caches. Which is why I still haven't hit the 100... Quote Link to comment
+Stuey Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 that's not really in the spirit of the game I agree Quote Link to comment
+Messe Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 cant see the point of doing a virtual if not going to see it for yourself,there again some do require you to be photographed (GCC813),which in my view can be classed as found because you are actualy there!!. Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 (edited) You've got me bang to rights, guvnor. I plead guilty to couch potatoness (although it took me a lot more effort to find than just typing "Come and Pray" into Google, so I'm not even a very efficient couch potato). In mitigation, I would plead the following: - I have, as of today, 112 physical finds (log book signed). Maybe I should change the topic title to "I hit 112 - oh yes, and some urban virtuals". - Of the next 100, about 98 are going to have to be physical finds, since the virtuals and locationlesses are getting all used up - There are only 31 caches not owned by me within 50km of my house, and I've found all of them (actually that's not true; someone just placed a night-time only one 46km away) On a cold winter's evening with a 100 mile round trip to the nearest unfound physical cache, sometimes I need to get my fix another way In fact I was checking out caches in Ireland because I may have a job interview there in a couple of weeks. So even if I don't end up moving to Dublin I might have a couple of hours free. And it's like looking a word up in the dictionary, you get distracted by things nearby, and so I ended up the other end of the country, and I thought, hmmm, although this one doesn't get the traffic some other "couch potato virtuals" do, I wonder if I can find it ? It took me about an hour. Whatever this kind of cache is, it isn't locationless. In fact there are (especially in Germany - I logged about 20 of them in the previous few feeks) a few other virtuals like this, where people can find them on Google without visiting them - in a few cases (including one owned by the same person as "Come and Pray") the owner closes them down unless you can provide photographic proof, in others they enjoy the worldwide attention which it brings. It's all part of the game. Some of these virtuals are clearly designed to bring in people from anywhere; see for example Harte Nuss II (a reasonably complex mathematical puzzle which is unlikely to pull in many people if you have to visit Braunschweig to log it) or Weit draussen, which is in the North Sea but has 1* terrain - that's a bit of a giveaway that you aren't going to have to visit it I also have about 50 or so locationless cache finds. Some people regard these as even "worse" than virtuals. On the other hand, they do require you to leave the house and find something original with your GPS. I know I spent more time on-site looking for Canadian Gravity Standardization Net than any physical cache I've attempted. On my holiday in Canada this summer I found about 12 local "real" (urban) virtuals. And funnily enough while I was in Canada I also found the "virtual" Webcam cache SpyCam, even though it's in Germany, only about 80km from my house. Again, no log book to sign, some people don't think it's Geocaching, but it's in the game. Now, I agree that the game is mainly about walking, finding, logging. In fact perhaps the GC.com version of the game would be in trouble if the moratorium on new locationless caches and (most) virtuals hadn't been put in place. And perhaps the "(207 found)" after my name should be changed to "(112 found)", but then I'd be wanting the 12 "real" virtuals to be added as well. At some point I think there's going to have to be a "headline" number, and however it's calculated, it will be something which quite a lot of people (me again, guilty) keep an eye on. Nick Edited December 29, 2004 by sTeamTraen Quote Link to comment
+Molinnis Posted December 29, 2004 Share Posted December 29, 2004 Having visited and logged the cache in question near Sligo, I can only say that you have missed out on seeing a wonderful location. That to me is what Geocaching is all about. Visiting locations that other likeminded people wish to share with you. Be it a wonderful view, Interesting building/gardens or whatever. And thats my 2p worth. Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 29, 2004 Author Share Posted December 29, 2004 I tell you what: next time I'm in Sligo, I will look it up. Promise. However, next time I'm in Kiel, I will not visit the site of Weit Draussen (a light ship in the North Sea). Unless there's a 1* terrain way to get there Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted December 30, 2004 Share Posted December 30, 2004 Don't worry Nick. I guess, in summary, we just play the game differently. Quote Link to comment
+sTeamTraen Posted December 30, 2004 Author Share Posted December 30, 2004 Don't worry Nick. I guess, in summary, we just play the game differently. Couldn't have bet it putter myself *hic* Cheers ! Quote Link to comment
+klaus23 Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 Don't worry Nick. I guess, in summary, we just play the game differently. Couldn't have bet it putter myself *hic* Cheers ! Santé Quote Link to comment
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