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Sending log to Geocaching.com (Garmin Oregon 750)

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Hi. So I have a Garmin Oregon 750 and I found two ways of sending my logs to the Geocaching Website:

 

1) Enable Auto-Upload: The issue is that it will send a "Found using Garmin..." log so once I get home, I need to go back to all caches and edit all my logs

 

2) Disable Auto-Upload: The logs will be saved in a .TXT file so when I get home, I need to connect my Garmin to a computer, go into Drafts, Import the Drafts, delete the file.

 

Since the 750 is a connected GPS, wouldn't be a way to perhaps Auto-Upload as a Draft (so I can see my draft and then edit and publish) or synchronise directly to the website when I get home and connect to the wifi (without having to physically connect my gps to my laptop? There must be an easier way? 

 

Thanks!

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I guess no one finds your option #2 onerous enough to warrant a wireless transfer of draft files.  Also, there are quite a large number of users who never delete the geocache_visits.txt file for whatever reason - including not being aware of it, so the amount being sent each time would grow larger and larger and ...

 

There's also an option when uploading drafts when connected to avoid any accidental duplication of older logs by restricting by oldest log date to be accepted as part of the draft file.  That can be helpful in catching any glitches that could cause a huge online draft file of duplicates.  Almost always, the default date supplied on the gc.com site is the right one, but the option needs to remain to change that.  Any auto upload of drafts should also include a similar option, but would require the last draft logging date to be supplied from gc.com as it appears on the website, and I'm not sure the API knows how to accomplish that.

 

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Hi ecanderson. Thanks for the reply, I totally agree with you. To be honest, I was not aware of the txt file before searching for a fix, and I feed this is a huge pain in the … process! My suggestion would be to be able to continue using auto-upload like I do now, but have an option to send them as a draft, and not as real log. This way, when I get back home, I could go into my drafts, edit them and post them for real.

 

And it's probably not cool for the owner of the cache to receive email saying "Submitted via Garmin Geocaching live" instead of real nice logs with a story!

 

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This has been requested of Garmin since the Oregon 7x0 was released. Until such time they implement it (if they do), connecting a USB cable and opening a single html link in your favorite web browser to upload and edit any new geocache logs hardly seems inconvenient or difficult. A few of us like to do it this way via GSAK for in-house record keeping, and do not find it to be much trouble. Actually typing full geocache logs into my GPSr when I find them, at least for me, is off-putting and cumbersome. I usually just type a word or two as needed to remind myself of important details (FTF, FAV, NM, etc.) when I finally type the full log out later on a computer with full size QWERTY keyboard!

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Soooo, I'm confused. I have a Oregon700. I have wifi enabled all the time. I find a cache, click found it on the GPS and select edit logs to add my log text. When I walk in my house and turn my GPS on it tells me that xxx logs have been updated, which is always the number of caches I logged on the current trip. I take no actions whatsoever. I usually keep a separate list of the caches I found to spot check and embellish some memorable finds, because of the text limitations in the log field ( it only takes like 40 characters). I never stopped to think that the text was in one file and it was uploading the entire file each time. I had assumed that a separate file was created for each find, and only new logs were uploaded. Should I find and delete text files on the GPSR? I just looked at gpsrchive. It tells me that , y gpsr has 2 text file directories., One in the unit itself, one on the SD card. How do I direct the GPSr to use the SD card?

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Assuming you meant Oregon 700.... (there is no Montana 700)

 

Where do you see two text file directories? I only see the one on the GPSr, but this has nothing to do with geocache logs. Those are stored in the geocache_visits.txt and geocache_logs.xml files, both located in the Garmin directory on the GPSr itself, never on the microSD card.

 

These are both simple text files, and each log upload when you are in Wi-Fi range only sends the 'new data' since last upload. Your old logs are not sent to GC.com again and again.

 

I do not recommend deleting these text files.

 

If everything is working OK, why are you messing with it?

 

8^)

 

 

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On 1/16/2020 at 1:47 PM, Atlas Cached said:

each log upload when you are in Wi-Fi range only sends the 'new data' since last upload

How do you do that??? I used to connect my gps via USB then get the txt file, import it into GC.COM, delete all previous already filles draft and submit new ones…..? Guess I'm not making it correctly!

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It has been a long time since I logged directly on GC.com - the interface used to have an option to only show new logs that occurred since your last log.

 

I currently use GSAK to log GC finds etc.

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On ‎1‎/‎25‎/‎2020 at 12:31 PM, Raiden38 said:

How do you do that??? I used to connect my gps via USB then get the txt file, import it into GC.COM, delete all previous already filles draft and submit new ones…..? Guess I'm not making it correctly!

Does your GPS have wifi  and have you eabled it and entered your wifi network password?

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On 1/16/2020 at 11:47 AM, Atlas Cached said:

Assuming you meant Oregon 700.... (there is no Montana 700)

 

Where do you see two text file directories? I only see the one on the GPSr, but this has nothing to do with geocache logs. Those are stored in the geocache_visits.txt and geocache_logs.xml files, both located in the Garmin directory on the GPSr itself, never on the microSD card.

 

These are both simple text files, and each log upload when you are in Wi-Fi range only sends the 'new data' since last upload. Your old logs are not sent to GC.com again and again.

 

I do not recommend deleting these text files.

 

If everything is working OK, why are you messing with it?

 

8^)

 

 

Actually, the geocache_visits.txt file is ALMOST a simple text file.  It may appear so in a simple text editor like Notepad and will just have some odd spaces showing in Wordpad, but do NOT try to edit one with a simple text editor unless you're paying VERY close attention to what you're doing.  It's full of embedded zeros (00h) that are probably there in the event that a 16 bit character set is used.  If you drop out even ONE of those zero bytes during an edit (except perhaps the very last one), the one byte offset of the data in the file will bomb it at gc.com when it is uploaded.

 

gc.com has a default threshold date for how new an individual log must be before it's excluded from the larger list that is sent.  That's clearer on the web page method for uploading where the default date appears on that page.

 

Unless logging caches at the old Garmin site (does it still exist?), the geocache_logs.xml file is of no use at all -- except for a few of us using it with GSAK as an option.  It's essentially a duplicate of the geocache_visits.txt data but in .xml format as the Garmin site once required it.  It's a space waster, so apart from possible GSAK use, no reason NOT to delete it.  After a couple of years of active caching, they can grow quite large, especially if field notes are being added for each find.  The only major difference is that times in geocache_visits.txt are in UTC, and those in geocache_logs.xml are in 'local' time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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