+SpongeRob Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Has anyone heard anything about Dupage County speaking unfavorably about geocaching at an upcoming conference? I heard about this through a reporter but dont have any details at this time. Has anyone else heard anything about this? -- SpongeRob rwmech@keenpeople.com www.keenpeople.com WPWU826 Cache'n Retrievers Quote Link to comment
+baloo&bd Posted September 4, 2003 Share Posted September 4, 2003 If you are talking about the Forest Preserve, they are very "anti-use", making their facilities very unavailable for most activities. The Herrick Lake Audio Exchange cache has a good write-up on what they went thru. I work extensivley with the Boy Scouts in the area and DFP has a reputation of difficult to work with and it results in most activities (Camping, picnics, etc) taking place in Kane. If you are talking property other then FP, most have found few problems in DuPage as it has a fairly dense GC in the area. What conference was being refered to? Baloo - N9SSG "HAM AND EGGS -- A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig." Quote Link to comment
+SpongeRob Posted September 4, 2003 Author Share Posted September 4, 2003 I was not exactly sure what conference that's why I was trying to get more information. I'm aware Dupage FP has had issues with cachers before. I was refering to the FPD itself. I only heard that there was something upcoming, nothing specific. Trying to find out more information on it. -- SpongeRob rwmech@keenpeople.com www.keenpeople.com WPWU826 Cache'n Retrievers Quote Link to comment
+baloo&bd Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 SpongeRob or anyone, Was there any more info on this yet? I am very curious as a friend of mine is running for mayor of a city that houses or is near many facilities that this would affect. Want to take an opportunity to put a little pressure on him to put a little pressure on them if he gets in. Baloo - N9SSG "HAM AND EGGS -- A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig." Quote Link to comment
+Markwell Posted September 15, 2003 Share Posted September 15, 2003 In this article, Tona Kunz writes quote:The Illinois Association of Park Districts plans to hold a forum called "Geocaching: Is your park ready?" at its January conference. The topic was a natural pick because forest preserve officials, also members of the trade association, kept asking to learn more about the game and how to approach it, said spokesman Lynn McClure. Officials worry about littering and gamers trampling on nesting areas or through fragile vegetation. Liability or bad publicity also can arise if the latitude and longitude coordinates direct people to ravines or tempt gamers to take a shortcut through private property. Sidebar:An interesting bit of information in the article about DuPage County's cache Island Refuge: quote:DuPage County Forest Preserve officials tracked 300 users at a cache in Fullersburg Woods Forest Preserve in Oak Brook during a two-year periodThere are only 71 logs on the cache page, and 66 unique logs on the page. Is it really true that only 22% of the people that find a cache log it on the website? Markwell Chicago Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+baloo&bd Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Markwell:Is it really true that only 22% of the people that find a cache log it on the website? Probably more for another thread, but I find that there are very few NOT FOUNDS logged, which is unfortunate because many problems hav ebeen quickly identified after one of these. Having said this however, the number was probably inflated. I also don't see 300 people over 2 years (Less then 1 person a week) as an issue. I will go and read the article and if the meeting is open to the public in January, will plan to attend. Baloo - N9SSG "HAM AND EGGS -- A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig." Quote Link to comment
+Stunod Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Baloo&bd:I also don't see 300 people over 2 years (Less then 1 person a week) as an issue. Don't mean to be picky, but this would be almost 3 people per week. 300 / (52*2) = 2.88 people/week Still, as Markwell pointed out, I wonder how they "tracked" these cache finders. Obviously not with online logs. And I have trouble believing only 22% log online. "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." - Homer Simpson Eamus Catuli AC145895 Quote Link to comment
+baloo&bd Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Actually meant to say "less then 3" ( (300/730)*7 ) I read both articles mentioned. It had to be something like counting anyone they saw go into the area. About the only way they could have tracked it was to put some sort of counting device which could have been triggered by any number of things. Unfortunatley, to go to the meeting will cost around $200 bucks, so I'll have to do thru my contacts with the the DFPD and KFPD. Markwell gave me another name and number as well. Baloo - N9SSG "HAM AND EGGS -- A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig." Quote Link to comment
+Greenback Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Sounds like they are inflating the numbers to make it sound like there are a lot more people hunting caches than there are. When I read the physical log book it contained very similar numbers of log entries as what was on the web site. I also have pulled a couple of my cache logs and compared the totals to the web site and found that there are 15% more finds than on the web. I've mentioned this to another cacher who pulled one of his logs and his too was 15% more finds in the log book. Does anyone else have their log books to compare with? Quote Link to comment
+Woodbutcher68 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 Sounds to me like someone might be using inflated figures to give Geocaching a bad name. Time to call the politicians. Sorry, I live in Indiana. Maps?!? I don't need no stinking maps! I got coordinates! There's a fine line between Geocaching and mental illness, I'm just not sure which side of the line I'm on! Quote Link to comment
+Markwell Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 I'll compare my log book from Cachiversary in Matthessien. I had to pull it due to deterioration, but it has dried. There are quite a few logs on that cache. I'll see if the 15% benchmark holds for that. Maybe next week I can check Herrick Lake as well. See what another DuPage Preserve cache looks like. Markwell Chicago Geocaching Quote Link to comment
+welch Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 78% more does sound a bit high. How/where was this cache placed?? Could this cache have been found by a couple bus loads of school kids on a trip or something unusual like that?? Quote Link to comment
+hmarq Posted September 27, 2003 Share Posted September 27, 2003 I didn't read the whole log book when I logged it some time ago, but it is a frequent school field trip destination and logging it simply involves reporting the value of a 'marker' back to the visitors center ... so yeah a bus load could rack up 50 finds in a hurry that would never be on line. Quote Link to comment
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