MarkDuster Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I was recently looking for a mark that was recorded as a "Standard War Time Disk" does anyone know what this is refering to? I found a 8"x8" concrete post disturbed with a rusted metal cap that was unreadable. Were war time monuments steel insted of brass? The date was 1944. [This message was edited by MarkDuster on May 12, 2003 at 11:05 PM.] Quote Link to comment
+Kewaneh & Shark Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Could you give us a link or a PID to the mark you were looking for? It would help us answer your question. Keep on Caching! - Kewaneh Quote Link to comment
MarkDuster Posted May 17, 2003 Author Share Posted May 17, 2003 Sorry I guessw that would help.PID SW0386 Quote Link to comment
+Black Dog Trackers Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 sw0386 Hmm, Watcher won't open the .gpx version of this county (Lincoln, WA). Quote Link to comment
+embra Posted May 17, 2003 Share Posted May 17, 2003 I found a 8"x8" concrete post disturbed with a rusted metal cap that was unreadable. Were war time monuments steel insted of brass? The date was 1944. I have no idea what "war time disk" refers to, but I like the theory. I remember my father collected several hundred steel Lincoln pennies minted in the years 1942-1945 or so. Metals were a precious commodities during the war. Max Often wrong but seldom in doubt Quote Link to comment
+parkrrrr Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Black Dog Trackers:Hmm, Watcher won't open the .gpx version of this county (Lincoln, WA). Fixed in bmgpx 1.053. See the BMGPX thread for details. Quote Link to comment
+ARTE Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 This raises a question that I have had since I started paying attention to benchmarking. The question is whether it is just my imagination, or does 1942 seem to have been a very productive year? The reason I ask is that it seems like a great number of benchmarks were eitehr monumented or confirmed in that year. The mystery to me is that this was the beginning of America's direct involvement in WWII, and even the NGS web site notes that: "During World War II, regular geodetic activities were suspended for the most part and much of the effort was directed to carrying out needed surveys at defense facilities in the U.S. and Caribbean area." Am I just looking at too small a sample? In all things, moderation - including moderation. Quote Link to comment
survey tech Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 Its true that in most localities there will be one year, or a few years, when most markers were set, because the work progressed across the country area by area. Generally, the progress was from east to west, so there will be fewer very old ones, pre-1900, in the west. In my observation, there was a surge of surveying activity in rural areas during the 1930s, when people were put to work on government projects during the depression. There was another surge, mostly in urban and suburban areas, during the 1950s & 60s, due to the post war development boom and the creation of the interstate highway system under President Eisenhower. Reduced government funding and changing technology have acted to limit the number of new stations created since then. Due to CORS technology, there will be even fewer created in the future, making the survivors all the more important in historical terms. Quote Link to comment
+Webfoot Posted July 4, 2003 Share Posted July 4, 2003 quote:Originally posted by ARTE:This raises a question that I have had since I started paying attention to benchmarking. The question is whether it is just my imagination, or does 1942 seem to have been a very productive year? Interesting theory. In my area, I've noticed a preponderence of benchmarks being placed in 1933. The only reason it seems that the date is sticking in my mind is it's the year both of my parents were born. I agree with you that regional time differences seem to be cropping up. Your area seems to have a lot of 1942 while my area seems to have a lot of 1933 marks. It would be interesting to see a survey of other areas to see if something could be corelated out of the entire thing, or rather our theory is just a bunch of hot air. Webfoot Tromping through the underbrush looking for Ammo cans, Tupperware containers, & little round disks. Quote Link to comment
Z15 Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 In my part of Michigan most work was done in 1934 and 1948 for leveling. Triangulation was mostly in 1965 +-. There is interspersed work but only in certain locals. Quote Link to comment
Cracker. Posted July 5, 2003 Share Posted July 5, 2003 Here in my part of western NY, 1939 & 1941 seem to predominate. Art www.yankeetoys.org www.BudBuilt.com www.pirate4x4.com Quote Link to comment
+rogbarn Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I just did a bit of analysis on the benchmarks in the state of Missouri. About 20% of them were set in 1934 and 1935. Also busy times were 1945 to 1949 (almost another 20%) and 1962-63 (16.5%, most of it in '63). That's almost 2/3 of all the benchmarks in Missouri. Quote Link to comment
+happycycler Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Thanks rogbarn! I hoped that you would respond to this question. (And you might add what you told me one time: as far as the St. Louis area goes -- MO & IL -- 1871 seems to be the earliest survey marks, mostly triangulation. I am sure that they are less than 1% though, but 1871 would represent an early burst of surveying activity.) Quote Link to comment
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