+Knight2000 Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 My wife has got the bug recently and has placed a few caches that she has done herself. One is at a mall in memory of her grandma who used to take her there. The mall is now closed down and abandoned. The area really went downhill. ...She couldn't find any attributes under "hazards" for possible rape, robbery, or murder. Can anyone make the artwork for them so they can be added?
+Knight2000 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Posted September 26, 2009 Are you serious? Maybe just one for crime? I can't see how it would hurt. There are more crime areas than mines.
+BlueDeuce Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) Well using the existing... Not Recommended for kids Not Recommended at night Stealth required oh, there is a Dangerous area one Not sure if that's what they meant it to be used for. I could see how it might necessary in certain parts of the world. "Don't go blindly into the area looking for the cache unless you know how to conduct yourself" However, I don't know if I would place a cache to bring people to an out-n-out crime ridden area. Edited September 26, 2009 by BlueDeuce
+Knight2000 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Posted September 26, 2009 Maybe a gun required attribute? It's a shame. 20 years ago this was THE place to be. That's an idea about dangerous area. I always thought it meant pirates nearby.
+TexasGringo Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) <She couldn't find any attributes under "hazards" for possible rape, robbery, or murder> I would use this Icon: Edited September 26, 2009 by TheTexasGringo
+fegan Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 She couldn't find any attributes under "hazards" for possible rape, robbery, or murder. If those attributes were on ANY cache I think it would go on everyone's Ignore List.
+Knight2000 Posted September 26, 2009 Author Posted September 26, 2009 She couldn't find any attributes under "hazards" for possible rape, robbery, or murder. If those attributes were on ANY cache I think it would go on everyone's Ignore List. You underestimate many geocachers.
+Arrow42 Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 She couldn't find any attributes under "hazards" for possible rape, robbery, or murder. If those attributes were on ANY cache I think it would go on everyone's Ignore List. You underestimate many geocachers. As long as the difficulty was marked appropriately....
+Col. Flagg Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Why........would you want to put one there if you know the area is dangerous....but then, confronted by someone maybe you could bargain for your life..."I'm a geocacher and I know all the good places to hide a body." But don't tell them before you find the cache and get in your car. Edited September 27, 2009 by Col. Flagg
+Knight2000 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 The world is dangerous. It's not like this is 8 mile. (have you been to 8 mile?) I just don't enjoy being there. Do I feel threatened? No. I don't feel all warm and fuzzy either. It's not as bad as I am making it sound. I am a pessimist though.
+Arrow42 Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) The world is dangerous. This is true... but people for some reason get all weird about urban dangers and misty eyed over rural dangers. drive-byes = bad falling off cliff = Awesome cache man! Here's an idea for an awsome cache... "Red or Blue?" (3.5/1) "This cache is right near the HQ of a major gang in the middle of LA, and has been placed with permission. However, there is a catch... if you wear the wrong color to the cache you will get shot. As this is a mystery cache, I'm not telling you what color that is." Muahahahah... Edited September 27, 2009 by Arrow42
+Vater_Araignee Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 The world is dangerous. It's not like this is 8 mile. (have you been to 8 mile?) I just don't enjoy being there. Do I feel threatened? No. I don't feel all warm and fuzzy either. It's not as bad as I am making it sound. I am a pessimist though. Ya need to visit Military Street, Little Mac, French or an of a few dozen others. 8 mile is a stroll in the park, so based on your comparison I would be very safe at that mall. The world is dangerous. This is true... but people for some reason get all weird about urban dangers and misty eyed over rural dangers. drive-byes = bad falling off cliff = Awesome cache man! Here's an idea for an awsome cache... "Red or Blue?" (3.5/1) "This cache is right near the HQ of a major gang in the middle of LA, and has been placed with permission. However, there is a catch... if you wear the wrong color to the cache you will get shot. As this is a mystery cache, I'm not telling you what color that is." Muahahahah... LOVE IT!
+Knight2000 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 It's not at 8 mile! Just an area that has turned urban and lots of abandoned stores. I was working on 8 mile once. We went across the street to get some Burger King. We had never seen a BK with so many bars on the windows. The dining room closed at 3pm.
+BlueDeuce Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 It's not at 8 mile! Just an area that has turned urban and lots of abandoned stores. I was working on 8 mile once. We went across the street to get some Burger King. We had never seen a BK with so many bars on the windows. The dining room closed at 3pm. Whenever I place a cache I think to myself - Why am I bringing someone here? What is it that I want them to see or experience? I hope you and your wife have done the same.
+Knight2000 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 Whenever I place a cache I think to myself - Why am I bringing someone here? What is it that I want them to see or experience? I hope you and your wife have done the same. I totally agree BD. If you like abandoned places, this is pretty neat. An entire mall, rotting. It's not behind a dumpster or anything. It's hidden at the store which makes her think of her Grandma who isn't around anymore. (Her gm used to take her there.) It's not nearly as bad as I am making it sound. It's not a typical off the wall Knight2000 cache but just a regular cache underneath a pine tree.
+BlueDeuce Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Whenever I place a cache I think to myself - Why am I bringing someone here? What is it that I want them to see or experience? I hope you and your wife have done the same. I totally agree BD. If you like abandoned places, this is pretty neat. An entire mall, rotting. It's not behind a dumpster or anything. It's hidden at the store which makes her think of her Grandma who isn't around anymore. (Her gm used to take her there.) It's not nearly as bad as I am making it sound. It's not a typical off the wall Knight2000 cache but just a regular cache underneath a pine tree. Cool. I'm still not sure if this particular type of...area...should have an attribute. And that is the question, right? Is it adding anything over providing the information in the Description? Are people going to filter on that attribute? Are non-PMs going to review the attributes better than the Description? Cuz typically I only really notice attributes when I am looking for particular cache details. I don't know that I would run a weekly PQ with 'dangerous areas' set to exclude. I don't now. But then again I don't set the Livestock attribute either and that's available. Okay, done thinking out loud. Edited September 27, 2009 by BlueDeuce
+Knight2000 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 IMO attributes are pretty useless. Part of this post was a joke but I have been to caches where I can totally see a high crime rate attribute being appropriate.
+TexasGringo Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 <We had never seen a BK with so many bars on the windows.> I was traveling on Hwy 20 from Dallas to Atlanta....My wife and I stopped at a McDonalds about 1/2 way there and inside was an Armed Guard that sat behind some thick glass watching everyone.
+Knight2000 Posted September 27, 2009 Author Posted September 27, 2009 There's nothing like eating at Popeye's and realizing there are bullet holes in the front glass. Somehow I just didn't feel comfortable there. I wasn't caching at the time but I'm sure there are caches within a half mile. People will do anything for a smiley.
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