+Rockin Roddy Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 I'd like to add one more thought to this conversation. , if it didn't have one, please. Don't even send it out with one, if it doesn't need it.Think before you bag. CITO! Keep in mind that many of my comments are directed more towards coins than TBs....coins should be bagged so cachers know they're a traveler and not swag. Quote Link to comment
+Twitch Hugs Trees Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 On the issue of having tags attached, I do think it should be up to the owner. For me personally, I wouldn't mind if I had a few stuck on mine because then I could write a little thank you note AND I now have something to keep (akin to a signature item collectable). But that's just me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Quote Link to comment
+K N D Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I have a TB out, "Spoons' is its name. It's a state spoon with a goal to travel to all 50 states and to 'collect' other state spoons if possible. Then once it's reached them all, to come back home to me. Maybe it's a good idea to indicate on the description of your TB if you would appreciate any maintenance done to your TB and whether or not it's OK to attach name cards to them. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I think the majority of cachers know that a bug was purchased, planned, built and released by someone else and don't have to be told not to monkey with it. It's the people who say 'Well, you should have told me not to.' that's the problem here. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) I think the majority of cachers know that a bug was purchased, planned, built and released by someone else and don't have to be told not to monkey with it. It's the people who say 'Well, you should have told me not to.' that's the problem here. Or, it could be that some owners expect too much! Some people really don't see the "damage" a tag makes....complaining after the fact is tsome owners' way of handling it. I would choose a pro-active way if I were truly irked by the thought of someone adding something to my traveler. Of course, I'm more open to allowing people to add, it gives my traveler history...ymmv. Give it a bit of thought...you released a traveler. I think everyone here knows that you never release something you don't want to lose...right? So, if we release expecting things can happen (loss, stolen whatever), why do we act surprised or even irked if someone adds something? We're OK with the chance of an item being stolen but I'll be dogged if they "vandalize" it? And really, do you think you actually "own" this item once it's released? Sure, you have a nice page stating it's yours...does this seem to matter to BettyTBSnathcer? Edited November 23, 2009 by Rockin Roddy Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I thought you weren't going to bother to post again. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 (edited) I think the majority of cachers know that a bug was purchased, planned, built and released by someone else and don't have to be told not to monkey with it. It's the people who say 'Well, you should have told me not to.' that's the problem here. Or, it could be that some owners expect too much! Some people really don't see the "damage" a tag makes....complaining after the fact is tsome owners' way of handling it. I would choose a pro-active way if I were truly irked by the thought of someone adding something to my traveler. Of course, I'm more open to allowing people to add, it gives my traveler history...ymmv. Give it a bit of thought...you released a traveler. I think everyone here knows that you never release something you don't want to lose...right? So, if we release expecting things can happen (loss, stolen whatever), why do we act surprised or even irked if someone adds something? We're OK with the chance of an item being stolen but I'll be dogged if they "vandalize" it? And really, do you think you actually "own" this item once it's released? Sure, you have a nice page stating it's yours...does this seem to matter to BettyTBSnathcer? Considering you recommended people state on the bug that they don't want anything added means that you think they do have some measure of control after it is released. Yes, we expect bugs to be mistreated and mishandled but that does not give anyone permission to mistreat or mishandle them. As a community we have an agreement to assist bugs in a reasonable manner or we leave them alone. Taking advantage of the situation by grabbing a bug and saying well, you shouldn't have released it if you didn't want anything to happen to it is not cool in my book. I expect people to do lot's of things with bugs, good and bad, and I don't get overly excited when bad things happen, just like I don't get overly excited about someone adding a tag but if you think I am going agree the practice, you're wrong. Edited November 23, 2009 by BlueDeuce Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I think the majority of cachers know that a bug was purchased, planned, built and released by someone else and don't have to be told not to monkey with it. It's the people who say 'Well, you should have told me not to.' that's the problem here. Or, it could be that some owners expect too much! Some people really don't see the "damage" a tag makes....complaining after the fact is tsome owners' way of handling it. I would choose a pro-active way if I were truly irked by the thought of someone adding something to my traveler. Of course, I'm more open to allowing people to add, it gives my traveler history...ymmv. Give it a bit of thought...you released a traveler. I think everyone here knows that you never release something you don't want to lose...right? So, if we release expecting things can happen (loss, stolen whatever), why do we act surprised or even irked if someone adds something? We're OK with the chance of an item being stolen but I'll be dogged if they "vandalize" it? And really, do you think you actually "own" this item once it's released? Sure, you have a nice page stating it's yours...does this seem to matter to BettyTBSnathcer? Considering you recommended people state on the bug that they don't want anything added means that you think they do have some measure of control after it is released. Yes, we expect bugs to be mistreated and mishandled but that does not give anyone permission to mistreat or mishandle them. As a community we have an agreement to assist bugs in a reasonable manner or we leave them alone. Taking advantage of the situation by grabbing a bug and saying well, you shouldn't have released it if you didn't want anything to happen to it is not cool in my book. I expect people to do lot's of things with bugs, good and bad, and I don't get overly excited when bad things happen, just like I don't get overly excited about someone adding a tag but if you think I am going agree the practice, you're wrong. Some people just don't know it's not accepted to put tags on. Some people don't care, but those people won't care if the page says not to attach. Those who don't know could care and, upon seeing the message, might not add. Will this stop the person(s) in question? I doubt it since I have mentioned it to both of them, but if I were an owner worried about attachements, I certainly would do whatever I could to try to stop it from happening. I'm not condoning nor condemning, and I don't care if you or anyone posts a message as I suggested, I am just sharing for those who are newbs etc. Quote Link to comment
+Rockin Roddy Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I thought you weren't going to bother to post again. I didn't...for a looong time. Nut, you know me, BD, I can't stop myself at times!! Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Some people just don't know it's not accepted to put tags on. Some people don't care, but those people won't care if the page says not to attach. Those who don't know could care and, upon seeing the message, might not add. Will this stop the person(s) in question? I doubt it since I have mentioned it to both of them, but if I were an owner worried about attachements, I certainly would do whatever I could to try to stop it from happening. I'm not condoning nor condemning, and I don't care if you or anyone posts a message as I suggested, I am just sharing for those who are newbs etc. Okay, don't necessarily disagree with that. The issue seems to be basically located to one certain area. Posting a Do Not Alter isn't all that high on my recommended list of things to do for your bug. Quote Link to comment
+WRITE SHOP ROBERT Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hey, I got one of these stupid plastic things on a bug I found the other day. I didn't understand what it meant until I read this thread. Niles, MI <--- I recognized it immediately. This guy probably doesn't mean any harm, but imagine if everyone who got a travel bug did that. You would have dozens (or eventually hundreds) of little laminated sig tags attached to every bug! I live probably 500 miles from that guy, but I'll bet I've seen and/or handled a dozen of them. This particular individual has definitely come up in the past. He usually gets a little more support though. In this one case, I don't have a problem with it. The tags are very nice, he takes great care with the TB's and always logs them properly. He seems to travel quite a bit, and really does take them on "escorted tours". Just a nice guy who really enjoys the Travel Bug aspect of this game. I think I agree with this, In most cases I'm not a big(or little) fan of adding things, BUT...Everyone Knows this guy, and that's his Caching thing...Moving Bugs. I was excited to meet him at an event, and honored to hand him my traveler to go on a tour, and receive it's souvenir from the trip. Quote Link to comment
+BlueDeuce Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) I think I agree with this, In most cases I'm not a big(or little) fan of adding things, BUT...Everyone Knows this guy, and that's his Caching thing...Moving Bugs. I was excited to meet him at an event, and honored to hand him my traveler to go on a tour, and receive it's souvenir from the trip. I still don't think there is anyone privileged enough to add anything to my bug without asking. There are lots of people that have assisted my bug far better, trust me. None of them needed to add their sig item nor does anyone else grant them the right. Edit: although I do note that you apparently gave them permission. That's good. Edited November 24, 2009 by BlueDeuce Quote Link to comment
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