Hiding cache on Forestry Commission land?

[+jonny the fox]

Has anyone hid a cache on Forestry Commission land?

Do I need permission in the same way as NT land?

 

I cant find anything on their website.

 

Thanks in advance for any guidance, help or suggestions

[+The Blorenges]

Yes, you will need to get permission to hide a cache on Forestry Commission land.

 

A number of "blanket agreements" have been negotiated by the G.A.G.B. so have a look at their list of Landowner Agreements.

 

If your area isn't covered there then I think you will have to approach your own F.C. area manager yourself. The G.A.G.B. have a lot of helpful information about how to get permission for cache placements and they also have a sample letter pro forma that you can use if necessary.

 

MrsB

[+HazelS]

Just as an addition to that...

 

You need permission to hide EVERY cache you set... by submitting a cache you agree that you have the necessary permissions to do so...

 

failure to get permission can lead to people thinking they are suspicious packages, or can pee off landowners who would probably have said yes to a cache had permission been sought....

 

you get the drift.... I'm sure a reviewer will come along and back me up on this...

[+Bambography]

I'm a little confused....

 

My understanding was that the GAGB blanket agreements cover any cache submitted for a given area and therefore there would be no reason to contact the owner for each individual cache (the GAGB have done this on our behalf and advanced permission has been agreed).

However, Hazel suggests that we should contact the owner for every cache, full stop.

Could a passing review please clarify the arrangement

[+Bill D (wwh)]

I'm a little confused....

 

My understanding was that the GAGB blanket agreements cover any cache submitted for a given area and therefore there would be no reason to contact the owner for each individual cache (the GAGB have done this on our behalf and advanced permission has been agreed).

However, Hazel suggests that we should contact the owner for every cache, full stop.

Could a passing review please clarify the arrangement

With the GAGB agreements the conditions of each one are different.

 

For example, you can place a cache in the Forestry Commission managed New Forest without asking permission from the FC, and the Uk reviewer who approves the cache will notify GAGB and we'll pass the cache details on to the FC NF, who reserve the right to disallow the cache retrospectively, though they've never done that. So you don't have to contact the FC yourself.

 

Another example is Forestry Commission managed or owned land in Dorset. For those the procedure is that the cacher needs to provide me with the details of the cache and I then submit that to FC Dorset for their approval. If they approve the cache I then notify the UK gc.com reviewers.

 

So, yes, you do need permission for every cache, but if it's on land covered by one of the blanket agreements then you may or may not need to seek advance permission yourself. You just need to read the agreement to check.

 

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Bill, Chairman GAGB

Edited March 29, 2009 by Bill D (wwh)

[+keehotee]

Just as an addition to that...

 

You need permission to hide EVERY cache you set... by submitting a cache you agree that you have the necessary permissions to do so...

 

 

Groundspeak actually ask that you have adequate permission to place a cache - not necessary permission.

By submitting a cache listing, you assure us that you have adequate permission to hide your cache in the selected location.

 

There's a world of difference between the two.

However, reviewers in this country will also take into account the GAGB's guidelines in determining whether or not your permission is adequate.

[+jonny the fox]

The area I want to place my caches in is not covered in the blanket agreement list. So i've sent off a request to the South West office asking for permission.

 

I then read into the other agreements that you then needed to submit individual coordinates to the FC representative for aproval or refusal. Sounds like common sense to me because I know the land I want to place in has some quite sensitive ruins in them.

 

If I get an agreement back from the SW office, should I forward it onto GAGB so they can add it to their list?

[+The Blorenges]

You also need to be aware of placing caches in or near ruins. The main guidelines as well as the GAGB explain this. A cache won't be published if it is in the such a location.

 

If you find the GAGB database doesn't specifically mention the forestry commission area you are contacting then contact the GAGB about it.

 

You might find my resource website useful (link under my signature) as it explains all about the guidelines and provides links to websites and maps where you can check things out beforehand.

 

It really helps the reviewers

 

Chris (MrB) - also masquerades as Graculus the reviewer for the South West!

www.follow-the-arrow.co.uk/resources

[+keehotee]

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Edited March 30, 2009 by keehotee

[+Bill D (wwh)]

johnnyhicks wrote:

If I get an agreement back from the SW office, should I forward it onto GAGB so they can add it to their list?

If you get permission for a single cache, then the answer's no. But if you get a blanket agreement allowing anyone to place a cache on that land then we'd love to hear about it and add it to our database.

 

Either contact GAGB through our contact page (link to GAGB in my sig line) or PM me.

 

Best of luck!

 

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Bill, Chairman GAGB

[+Bill D (wwh)]

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Was that an E or did *mouse* forget to log out?

[+keehotee]

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Was that an E or did *mouse* forget to log out?

Definitely an E (for Edit)