+KD7MXI Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 how well does it work? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CacheAcrossAmerica http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=KD7MXI http://www.cachunuts.com Quote Link to comment
mcb Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 No one knows yet. They are not due out until this summer. June I think? I am really looking foward to getting my hands on a pair though. mcb GPS-Yote Quote Link to comment
+KD7MXI Posted April 20, 2002 Author Share Posted April 20, 2002 im looking at them in the aes catalog right now witch is where you can now order them aes http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CacheAcrossAmerica http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest_cache.asp?u=KD7MXI http://www.cachunuts.com Quote Link to comment
Night Tracker Posted April 20, 2002 Share Posted April 20, 2002 I odered two Rino 120s they can be preordered and they'll ship when released sometime in June, Dang I can't wait as this will be my first GPS/GMRS. Quote Link to comment
Atilla the Pun Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 Please note that these radios are not purely FRS. They are GMRS radios and require a license to use. The license is about $75 for 5 years and covers your entire nuclear family. AtP Quote Link to comment
Zuckerruebensirup Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Atilla the Pun: Please note that these radios are not purely FRS. They are GMRS radios and require a license to use. Atilla, do you know if a person can choose to just use the FRS mode, and not get the license, or do you have to get the license just to own the unit? ------- Join us at our first "geo-gathering" on 4/27/02! Quote Link to comment
Night Tracker Posted April 21, 2002 Share Posted April 21, 2002 The Rino 110 (yellow) is FRS, no License required. The Rino 120 (Green) is GMRS FCC requires license. I believe it's 75.00 for 5 years and covers the immediate family. Go to the Garmin site for more info on the two Rinos. Quote Link to comment
+Tedoca Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 quote:Atilla, do you know if a person can choose to just use the FRS mode, and not get the license, or do you have to get the license just to own the unit You could own the unit without a license, you could listen and transmit on the FRS frequencies without a license, and you could listen on the GMRS frequencies without a license. A violation would only occurr if you transmit on the GMRS frequencies without a license. Regards, Tedoca Quote Link to comment
+Prime Suspect Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Night Tracker: The Rino 110 (yellow) is FRS, no License required. The Rino 120 (Green) is GMRS FCC requires license. I believe it's 75.00 for 5 years and covers the immediate family. Go to the Garmin site for more info on the two Rinos. According to the Garmin website, both units support GMRS. The main differences are that the 120 has Vista-like mapping abilities (except only 8 meg of memory instead of 24), and it has a voice scrambler for more secure communications. Quote Link to comment
Atilla the Pun Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Tedoca:You could own the unit without a license, you could listen _and_ transmit on the FRS frequencies without a license, and you could _listen_ on the GMRS frequencies without a license. A violation would only occurr if you _transmit_ on the GMRS frequencies without a license. Regards, Tedoca http://mdgps.net Actually, you are mistaken about that. GMRS and FRS use 7 frequencies in common (interstitials is what they're called) but the GMRS radios actually broadcast on those frequencies with a wider deviation. Also, GMRS can broadcast on the insterstitials with up to 5 watts of power, compared to FRS with only half a watt. So technically, it is illegal for you to broadcast on the "FRS channels" with a GMRS radio unless you have a GMRS license. Since one license covers your entire nuclear family, and then some, and you're probably going to use the radios with your family members, getting one licence to cover the entire family is not a bad deal.... Respectfully, AtP Quote Link to comment
Atilla the Pun Posted April 22, 2002 Share Posted April 22, 2002 If you want or need more information on GMRS as compared to FRS (or anyother radio topic for that matter) check out the Popular Wireless BBS. AtP Quote Link to comment
+Tedoca Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 I stand corrected. Regards, Tedoca Quote Link to comment
Best_Buddies Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Do you need to broadcast "call leters" every time you talk, like you do with HAM radio? ----- Any similarity between my opinions and reality is entirely coincidental. --Harrkev Quote Link to comment
Atilla the Pun Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 No, for GMRS you ID every 15 minutes and/or at the end of the conversation. I believe this is true for ham, too, but I'm not certain. AtP Quote Link to comment
+Tedoca Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 On the amateur bands I believe you are required to ID every TEN minutes, or at the conclusion of your conversation (whichever is less). Not sure about GMRS but it would make sense they would stick to the same time limit. BTW... This does not mean you have to pick up the radio and ID yourself every ten minutes just 'cause you have the unit with you and turned on. The ten minute ID is only required when your current conversation ends or exceeds the ten minute interval. It's really not a big deal and you can toss it in just about anytime with a simple statement such as... "N3YKX for ID." Regards, Tedoca Quote Link to comment
+OzzieSan Posted April 23, 2002 Share Posted April 23, 2002 Just a link for more info on GMRS. Hope it helps! fcc Quote Link to comment
CapnGadget Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Just a note... for you Canadian cachers the Rino 120 will ship with the GMRS disabled... "GARMIN has announced versions of the Rino 110 and Rino 120 specifically for the Canadian market. The Canadian versions of Rino provide all standard features as found in the Rino 110 and 120 "USA" versions minus GMRS channels. This is due to frequency allocations as defined by Industry Canada." the quote is from www.GPSCentral.ca, a Canadian mail order store for GPS needs out of Calgary...good site that supports and sells items for Geocaching.com. The 110 and 120 will ship for $249.95 and $344.95 Canadian respectively. I just have to have a pair...but 700$...ouch! "Everywhere you go, there ya be..." Quote Link to comment
CapnGadget Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 Why buy two 120's? it just occurred to me that one might as well buy one of each...on each hunt you give the 110 to your part-time geocaching buddy and keep the map-enabled 120 for yourself...its unlikely that BOTH of you will need a map database... thereby saving 100 bucks Canadian..(about2.95$ American LOL) -Capn Gadget Everywhere you go, there ya be..." Quote Link to comment
yogibear Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 At the Garmin website, they just pushed back the release date to September. Quote Link to comment
+st_richardson Posted April 25, 2002 Share Posted April 25, 2002 quote:Originally posted by yogibear: At the Garmin website, they just pushed back the release date to September. Argh... I hope I don't have to wait till Christmas! Quote Link to comment
Night Tracker Posted April 26, 2002 Share Posted April 26, 2002 Till Sept. This really sux. I'll have to get something real quick to get me by till sept. The problem is that I preordered a 120 hoping to get it before vacation this summer, now i,m thinking of getting a Venture or a Legend for my second unit. I was going to get a 110 and a 120 but who knows, maybe I'll borrow one till then... [This message was edited by Night Tracker on April 27, 2002 at 09:35 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+GOT GPS? Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 Dont know why the Rinos have not been approved yet by the FCC, but I would like to get a pair of them. Here is the GMRS website: http://www.g-m-r-s.org/ Quote Link to comment
+inceptor Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 Will a Ham license cover gmrs or do I need another license? inceptor the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys Quote Link to comment
Atilla the Pun Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 quote:Originally posted by inceptor: Will a Ham license cover gmrs or do I need another license? inceptor the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys You'll need another (different) license. Your GMRS license will cover your entire "nuclear" family and only costs about $75 for 5 years. AtP Quote Link to comment
+inceptor Posted April 27, 2002 Share Posted April 27, 2002 quote:Originally posted by bacpac: What is this? A cool new radio combined with GPS. This is a short range transmitter and reciever. This is basically it in a nutshell. For more details, go to the link above from Got GPS or go to the Garmin outdoor website. Have fun. inceptor the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys Quote Link to comment
Atilla the Pun Posted April 28, 2002 Share Posted April 28, 2002 quote:Originally posted by GOT GPS?: Dont know why the Rinos have not been approved yet by the FCC, but I would like to get a pair of them. My guess (and it is pure speculation) is that they're not approved yet because they broadcast data. The GMRS band is approved for voice only, so there will have to be a wavier for this use. quote:Here is the GMRS website: http://www.g-m-r-s.org/ Uh, that is not an official site of any sort. It is run (I believe) by Robert K. Leef, who both sells radio equipment and is extremely knowlegable about radios and FCC regs. He has several good links regarding GMRS off his business site http://www.rkleef.com/ . It is intended to be (primarily) a (US) nationwide registery of GMRS repeaters so that travellers can contact repeater operators along their proposed path and request permission to use their repeaters. Or so new licensees can contact repeater operators in their local area and make arrangements to use the repeater. Respectfully, AtP Quote Link to comment
+inceptor Posted May 2, 2002 Share Posted May 2, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: Atilla, do you know if a person can choose to just use the FRS mode, and not get the license, or do you have to get the license just to own the http://www.advancedgps.com/receivers/rino.asp? Thanks for the link. This is the cheapest price I have seen. Just preordered my Rino 120 today! inceptor the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys Quote Link to comment
Zuckerruebensirup Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 quote:Originally posted by inceptor: Thanks for the link. This is the cheapest price I have seen. Just preordered my Rino 120 today! Did your unit come in yet? If so, what do you think of it so far? ------- "I may be slow, but at least I'm sweet!" Quote Link to comment
+inceptor Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: Did your unit come in yet? If so, what do you think of it so far? No, I have not recieved my unit. The release was to be sometime in June but has been pushed back to July or possibly September. AdvanceGPS offered free FedEx shipping if you preorder. Your credit card will not be billed until shipment. Because of both of those reasons, I preordered. As soon as it arrives, I will post what I think of the unit. inceptor North Texas Geocaching Association Quote Link to comment
Zuckerruebensirup Posted May 25, 2002 Share Posted May 25, 2002 quote:Originally posted by inceptor: As soon as it arrives, I will post what I think of the unit. Ah, it must be tough to have to wait so long. I'd get impatient to be playing with my new toy. It's cool that you've got dibs on one, and won't get charged until it's shipped, though. Quote Link to comment
+inceptor Posted May 26, 2002 Share Posted May 26, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Zuckerruebensirup: Ah, it must be tough to have to wait so long. I'd get impatient to be playing with my new toy. It's cool that you've got dibs on one, and won't get charged until it's shipped, though. It is tough to wait that long soooooo, I have decide to make myself feel better by getting a Vista or a Legend to play with in the mean time. inceptor North Texas Geocaching Association [This message was edited by inceptor on May 26, 2002 at 10:01 PM.] Quote Link to comment
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