+Hi-Tek Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 I've been trying to upload some visit images to 3 separate cache pages today. They are reported as having been uploaded successfully but, when I view them, the appear all garbled! See http://img.Groundspeak.com/cache/log/968708_200.jpg for an example. I've checked that the file size is below 100k and the files are in JPG format. I've tried deleting the complete log entry for my visit, re-submitted it & re-upload the image all with the same result. I've even uploaded the images to my own home page and they view perfectly OK there. Anyone any ideas what I can be doing wrong? This is so frustrating. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
adrianjohn Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 When you upload images the small image you see when you check the cache page soon afterwards looks awful. However after a short time the image is displayed ok. also if you click the image you will see a full size image as you intended. I was a bit dismayed when I first uploaded a photo and the small image was very blocky,I too thought something was wrong but checking later revealed things to be ok. Quote Link to comment
+Molinnis Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 The picture always looked grotty on the first view for some reason. We normally click to view it then when its displayed click the refresh button and it comes up okay. Can anyone out there give a reason why it does this???? Mike Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Having actually looked at the uploaded picture, this looks like file corruption and not the 'blocky' effect others mention. What browser are you using? I've found that Opera has great difficulty with file uploads. Internet Explorer copes much better. Quote Link to comment
+SimonG Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:I've even uploaded the images to my own home page and they view perfectly OK there. Can you give us a link? I don't know what the problem is, but I can think of some experiments I'd like to try with the original image. SimonG.org Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 1, 2003 Author Share Posted February 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by SimonG: quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:I've even uploaded the images to my own home page and they view perfectly OK there. Can you give us a link? I don't know what the problem is, but I can think of some experiments I'd like to try with the original image. http://www.SimonG.org Hi Simon (et al) I'm using IE 6. I've just relooked at my image on the cache page and it's still c**p! Here's a link to another copy of the image http://homepage.ntlworld.com/keith-blackmore/beach%20hut.jpg Cheers for your help Keith motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+SimonG Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 Hmm... seems I can upload it successfully. I'm also using IE6. It would be useful if you do exactly what I just did and see if it works for you: 1) Go to the picture on your site, right click on it, select 'Save Picture As...' and save it to your hard drive as 'beach hut.jpg' 2) Edit your user profile, scroll down to the section titled Photo (JPG files only) and click on the 'do so now' link. Upload the image you just saved. 3) Edit your profile again, and click on the 'do so now' link again. Images for this account should now include 'Beach hut'. Click on it and see if it displays correctly. This should get us close to pinpointing the problem. SimonG.org Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 1, 2003 Author Share Posted February 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by SimonG:Hmm... seems I can http://img.Groundspeak.com/user/64603_1700.jpg successfully. I'm also using IE6. It would be useful if you do _exactly_ what I just did and see if it works for you: 1) Go to the http://homepage.ntlworld.com/keith-blackmore/beach%20hut.jpg, right click on it, select 'Save Picture As...' and save it to your hard drive as 'beach hut.jpg' 2) Edit your user profile, scroll down to the section titled _Photo (JPG files only)_ and click on the 'do so now' link. Upload the image you just saved. 3) Edit your profile again, and click on the 'do so now' link again. _Images for this account_ should now include 'Beach hut'. Click on it and see if it displays correctly. This should get us close to pinpointing the problem. http://www.SimonG.org Hi Simon Thanks for your advice. I did what you asked and I now have a 'garbled' image under my user profile !!! Aren't computers just great? Rgds Keith motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+SimonG Posted February 1, 2003 Share Posted February 1, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:I did what you asked and I now have a 'garbled' image under my user profile !!! This is weird. I was expecting that to work. We did exactly the same thing, with the same version of IE, and it worked fine for me but not for you. Er... help, someone! I have no idea what might be wrong now. SimonG.org Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 1, 2003 Author Share Posted February 1, 2003 Hi Simon Thanks for your help. If it's any help - I don't seem to be able to delete images. I've just deleted the beach hut image and uploaded another image. On viewing all I see is the garbled beach hut image not the new one I've uploaded????? Weird We need to place a piccy on the relevant site to fully claim our 'find'! God knows what will happen if we try to post ourselves an Avatar?!?!? Rgds Keith Anyway time for bed said Zedebee! T motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+Nia Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Maybe all your pictures are:- "varied in appearance or character" Try changing your username too:- "Organised Crew" see if that helps. Seriously. We had trouble recently with a virus that added code to lots of down and uploads, If you have the same virus it will be adding code to your .jpg files. Just an idea. Tech-no notice Quote Link to comment
+SimonG Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Nia:We had trouble recently with a virus that added code to lots of down and uploads, If you have the same virus it will be adding code to your .jpg files. I don't reckon that's it - the mangled image is 58027 bytes, whereas the one I uploaded successfully is 58695 bytes. If a virus had added code, presumably it would have gotten bigger. Still, it's definitely worth running a virus scan. If you don't have antivirus software, there's a free online scanner here. SimonG.org Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 2, 2003 Author Share Posted February 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by SimonG:Originally posted by Nia:We had trouble recently with a virus that added code to lots of down and uploads, If you have the same virus it will be adding code to your .jpg files. I don't reckon that's it - the mangled image is 58027 bytes, whereas the one I uploaded successfully is 58695 bytes. If a virus had added code, presumably it would have gotten bigger. Still, it's definitely worth running a virus scan. If you don't have antivirus software, there's a free online scanner http://housecall.trendmicro.com/. I don't think it's caused by a virus either but just to be sure I've just done a check. There are no virii reported on the system (have latest virus signature file. What I can't fathom out is why I can upload the image to my own site & it views OK but when uploading the self same file to the geocache pages they are garbled when viewed ???? motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+The Merman Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 My only suggestion would be to post a log on the cache page and instead of the picture just post the link to the one on your site. I feel sure that Adam and Amy's dad would be happy with that. I woke this morning and my boat was not rocking...for one horrid moment I thought I lived in a house! Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 2, 2003 Author Share Posted February 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Merman:My only suggestion would be to post a log on the cache page and instead of the picture just post the link to the one on your site. I feel sure that Adam and Amy's dad would be happy with that. That is exactly what I did yesterday. I just tried uploading a picture of a cache we visited today with the same garbled result. I've now emailed Groundspeak to see if they can advise. I await their response with trepidation. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+ShaneN4Girls Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Okay, try this problem now... I just deleted the pictures I had uploaded previously, and have uploaded three new ones... Quote Link to comment
+Tim & June Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew: What I can't fathom out is why I can upload the image to my own site & it views OK but when uploading the self same file to the geocache pages they are garbled when viewed ???? I wonder ! Are you using any image compression software ? It might be that GC.com also compresses images, and your method conflicts with the compression method used. Perhaps it's worth trying a smaller sized image which remains under 100K without compression. See if that works. If it does, try changing your compression method. Tim & June (Winchester) See June, I told you that sign which said 'Unsuitable for Motor Vehicles' was wrong ! Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Tim & June: quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew: What I can't fathom out is why I can upload the image to my own site & it views OK but when uploading the self same file to the geocache pages they are garbled when viewed ???? I wonder ! Are you using any image compression software ? It might be that GC.com also compresses images, and your method conflicts with the compression method used. Perhaps it's worth trying a smaller sized image which remains under 100K without compression. See if that works. If it does, try changing your compression method. Tim & June (Winchester) See June, I told you that sign which said 'Unsuitable for Motor Vehicles' was wrong ! But all JPG's are compressed images are they not? motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+SimonG Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:But all JPG's are compressed images are they not? Yes, but some programs may compress them in a slightly different way to others. Between downloading them from your camera and uploading them to the site, do you use any program to manipulate (ie resize) them? If so, what? SimonG.org Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Or (and I might well have got this wrong) don't service providers like AOL etc provide "auto compression" features to their software designed to save money on your phone bill (if you're still on dial-up). I think it compresses files inthe background before uploading them to make them smaller, whether they are jpegs or not. Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by SimonG: quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:But all JPG's are compressed images are they not? Yes, but some programs may compress them in a slightly different way to others. Between downloading them from your camera and uploading them to the site, do you use any program to manipulate (ie resize) them? If so, what? http://www.SimonG.org I use Paint Shop Pro normally but have also tried IrfanView with the same result. Oh and I'm using NTL broadband. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+The Good Shepherds Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 Do you connect to the web via a proxy server? (look in Tools->Internet Settings->Connection->LAN Settings to find out) Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 I've just had an email from the support guys (that was quick!) asking me to attach some copies of the good & the bad files. I've done that and I'll let you all know if they come up with a solution. Thanks for all the suggestions everybody. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:I've just had an email from the support guys (that was quick!) asking me to attach some copies of the good & the bad files. I've done that and I'll let you all know if they come up with a solution. Thanks for all the suggestions everybody. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Oh look, my Avatar has suddenly appeared and is also garbled motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 3, 2003 Author Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Good Shepherds:Do you connect to the web via a proxy server? (look in Tools->Internet Settings->Connection->LAN Settings to find out) Checked that out and the answer is no. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Motley Crew:Oh look, my Avatar has suddenly appeared and is also garbled I rather like it. Jackson Pollocks? Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+SimonG Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote:Originally posted by el10t:I rather like it. Me too. Maybe you should submit it for the GUK logo. SimonG.org Quote Link to comment
+washboy Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 quote: Here's a link to another copy of the image http://homepage.ntlworld.com/keith-blackmore/beach%20hut.jpg There's and awful lot of white-space around this image. Have you tried cropping it to include only the image itself? I've no idea if it'll make any difference but... ===== There's no such thing as a free lunchbox! Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 4, 2003 Author Share Posted February 4, 2003 quote:Originally posted by washboy:There's and awful lot of white-space around this image. Have you tried cropping it to include only the image itself? I've no idea if it'll make any difference but... The image you saw was one of the (many!) that I messed about with & tried uploading to the cache site. I've now replaced it with a 'proper' one. Thanks for pointing it out. Note the skanky avatar has gone (for now!) motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
+The Merman Posted February 4, 2003 Share Posted February 4, 2003 I liked the old Avatar accident or not it was unique I woke this morning and my boat was not rocking...for one horrid moment I thought I lived in a house! Quote Link to comment
+Hi-Tek Posted February 9, 2003 Author Share Posted February 9, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Merman:I liked the old Avatar accident or not it was unique Thanks Merman - I've re-instated it (least I think it's the same one ). After much back & forthing I've also had a 'final' reply from the Groundspeak help person (Jeremy). It is copied below. "Unfortunately I can't figure out why it isn't working. However, we are moving to a new codebase which I believe will solve the problem. It will be available by April/May." Looks like I'll just have to wait and see what happens. Meanwhile I'll just add URLs to any logs if I've a piccie to show. motley. adj. varied in appearance or character. crew. n. group of people. Quote Link to comment
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