No "NM", when not finding a cache?

[+Goldenwattle]

6 hours ago, CCFwasG said:

If a cache really doesn't work properly, should it get NM? (ie OAR or whatever)

I would do a DNF. Explain you found the cache, but couldn't find the log, as the cache is too difficult to open.

[+JL_HSTRE]

35 minutes ago, Goldenwattle said:

I would do a DNF. Explain you found the cache, but couldn't find the log, as the cache is too difficult to open.

 

I think it depends on the cache. If finding the log is part of the challenge - which is usually apparent from the cache page - then I agree.

 

If a D1 ammo can is rusted shut the Found + OAR/NM.

[+colleda]

On 11/30/2023 at 9:43 AM, MNTA said:

Take it up with GS because they definitely don't agree with you. 

 

Cache hidden 2010. 

Co Joined 12/13/2009Last Visited 01/11/2020

 

Looks abandoned by all the rules for cache placement.

 

Former logs:

Cache needs maintenance badly! I couldn’t write on the log book properly. Paper so wet.

 

Found both containers, 1 has no lid and is drenched through, signed log that was dry, TFTC

 

So the second container was probably a throwdown. But even that has issues. Logs show issues back to 2022. You need a responsible owner to take care of any and all issues.

 

The area has plenty of caches and is regularly frequented by finders. My guess is in a year or two another cache will replace this one, hopefully sooner. 

 

 

 

Correct on all counts. I don't like fake, or otherwise, sprinkler caches. And, as in Goldenwattle's example have dismantled a real one and spent way too much time reassembling it. This example was not immediately recognisable as a sprinkler nor was it in a spot where a sprinkler would be normally placed.

I saw this as an example of throwdown, placed after a string of DNFs, saving a viable container (albeit a poor choice of container) where the CO is MIA. As found, this cache had no issues per se. It was easily located and the log was dry and signable although getting a bit tatty. Nothing really requiring a NM. BTW I am not a fan of community maintenance and if this cache had a soggy log I most likely would have logged a NM. Surprisingly the inside of the sprinkler had a volume about the same as a film pot.

I don't know the CO personally but I have found a few of his caches and he does seem to pop up occasionally after a long absence.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by colleda
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[+CCFsmile]

On 12/4/2023 at 7:38 AM, JL_HSTRE said:

 

I think it depends on the cache. If finding the log is part of the challenge - which is usually apparent from the cache page - then I agree.

 

If a D1 ammo can is rusted shut the Found + OAR/NM.

 

Thanks all. In the case I was thinking of I did get to the log and sign it but the difficulty of getting it out was clearly not part of the plan, and I wish I had a video to show. It was a newbie cacher and just not done very well. (They used a real sprinkler head and took it apart oddly and put the log into a balloon inside the whole mechanism (because they called it water balloon). The rubber balloon made it a nightmare to open and get to the log. And not in a high D rating way, in a not-well-constructed way!