+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Hi all, I'm almost done building my first AL. Location 2 would be inaccessible during a flood stage of a river. A rare occurrence, but still, my instructions advise them to skip that question if the river is very high. Will they be able to access Location 3 without answering Question 2? I've done a bunch of ALs as a player, but can't remember if you can skip around. I prefer they go in sequence for the story. 1 Quote Link to comment
+barefootjeff Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 In the builder there's a switch to set whether it has to be played sequentially or not. If you set that slider to OFF (left position), the loacations can be visited in any order so players would still be able to complete your remaining four locations. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: Hi all, I'm almost done building my first AL. Location 2 would be inaccessible during a flood stage of a river. A rare occurrence, but still, my instructions advise them to skip that question if the river is very high. Will they be able to access Location 3 without answering Question 2? I've done a bunch of ALs as a player, but can't remember if you can skip around. I prefer they go in sequence for the story. Like barefootjeff said, you choose whether you want the adventure lab to played in a certain sequence or not. If a player cannot answer all questions they do not complete the adventure lab. They will not be able to leave an activity log or rate it. It will remain as an unfinished Adventure Lab. If you make the geofencing wide enough, they might still be able to answer the question if you provide an answer when the river level is high and they cannot get to the location that has the answer. Or you can choose a question that could be answered no matter what the level of the river is. I'm making guesses without knowing the specifics of your adventure lab. If you choose to make the adventure only playable in a certain sequence then they will not be able to proceed after that stage when the river level is high. Edited May 10, 2021 by Max and 99 1 Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 Thanks folks! If they can't leave a log, does that mean they don't get credit for the other three points? Also, I had set the geofencing low, at 20 on most and 40 on another. If I set it wider, and have a secondary puzzle within that area, how do we keep them from just answering that and never going to the ultra cool place that is underwater once every five years? Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, barefootjeff said: In the builder there's a switch to set whether it has to be played sequentially or not. If you set that slider to OFF (left position), the loacations can be visited in any order so players would still be able to complete your remaining four locations. Thanks, yes, I did see that switch. I just didn't know what the ramifications would be of skipping one in a sequence. It is dire! Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, FairmountWaterWorks said: If they can't leave a log, does that mean they don't get credit for the other three points? They will get a geocache find credit for each location they answer correctly. They cannot leave a log until all locations are visited and questions are answered. 1 minute ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: If I set it wider, and have a secondary puzzle within that area, I don't understand this puzzle thing. 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: Thanks, yes, I did see that switch. I just didn't know what the ramifications would be of skipping one in a sequence. It is dire! Dire indeed! 😁 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: If I set it wider, and have a secondary puzzle within that area, how do we keep them from just answering that and never going to the ultra cool place that is underwater once every five years? On the very very rare occasion that the river level is too high, you can edit the coordinates and the question to give them something different just during that time. You can change it again as soon as the river level goes down and they can access what you want them to. Easy! 1 Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: They will get a geocache find credit for each location they answer correctly. They cannot leave a log until all locations are visited and questions are answered. I don't understand this puzzle thing. By puzzle I meant question. Wish they could be more puzzly. Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Max and 99 said: On the very very rare occasion that the river level is too high, you can edit the coordinates and the question to give them something different just during that time. You can change it again as soon as the river level goes down and they can access what you want them to. Easy! Oh I see, actually change it for a few days! OK that's a possibility. Thanks so much. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Just now, FairmountWaterWorks said: Oh I see, actually change it for a few days! OK that's a possibility. Thanks so much. Yes, easy to do, and for as long as you need to. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 1 minute ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: Oh I see, actually change it for a few days! OK that's a possibility. Thanks so much. Just fyi, you can edit almost everything on the adventure lab. What you should never do is add a stage or delete a stage. That will cause problems! Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 10, 2021 Author Share Posted May 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: Just fyi, you can edit almost everything on the adventure lab. What you should never do is add a stage or delete a stage. That will cause problems! Will people be incensed if there are only 4 stages? I thought I could add one later, but I read another thread that explained why that's bad – previous completers feel ripped off. This seems like another reason to only give one point for the entire thing, as others have suggested. I didn't do much to get 25 points! Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: Will people be incensed if there are only 4 stages? I thought I could add one later, but I read another thread that explained why that's bad – previous completers feel ripped off. This seems like another reason to only give one point for the entire thing, as others have suggested. I didn't do much to get 25 points! Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 https://forums.geocaching.com/GC/index.php?/topic/360467-bug-report-cant-finish-the-lab-adventure/ Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, FairmountWaterWorks said: Will people be incensed if there are only 4 stages? I thought I could add one later, but I read another thread that explained why that's bad – previous completers feel ripped off Although it is a good point I don't think that's the reason Groundspeak warns about this. There will be problems for someone who completed the other stages before you added one. It gets complicated and messy and is not worth the headache! Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 OK, I think I'll go back to the sites and add another one before making it Live. At first, I couldn't find another appropriate location near there, but I'll try harder. Thanks for your advice! Quote Link to comment
+Twinklekitkat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 If you are not making a bonus cache (or even if you are) you could always turn the entire adventure off temporarily and disable the bonus cache until the river is back to safer levels. Once everything returns to normal just re-enable the bonus cache (if you have one) and turn the adventure back on to 'public'. That way, no one will miss out on your ultra cool location, which, btw, I can't wait to come find out what it is. I would be upset to read about this ultra cool location in other people's logs knowing I missed out on it because the stage had been temporarily changed to something else. 1 Quote Link to comment
+FairmountWaterWorks Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 Thanks, good points! (Sorry to take so long replying. Still getting the hang of things.) Quote Link to comment
+G0ldNugget Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Theres construction going on at one of my AL locations and the question/answer is inaccessible for now. This is a 10 mile long adventure and I wanted players to be able to complete the series. So during construction I give players both the question and answer. Geofencing assures they made it to the general area thats good enough for me. Quote Link to comment
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