+Hillbilly Girl Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 The Corp of Engineers placed a couple new markers near the Missouri River, using CMSM identification numbers. Is there a Groundpseak database for them? Quote Link to comment
kayakbird Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Hillbilly Girl, Can't answer your question on the new marks, but you did log one of the oldest. If I may hi-jack this thread just a bit JC1008 86=25/1 Cap was probably set in 1887 as part of one of the first surveys to use very permanent markers which stretched from Three Forks, Montana to St Louis. NON-PID MORC BM 1-1 Across the Missouri River from BM 1-2 in the Fort Benton Courthouse yard. Okie'sKid and I renewed it (with landowner permission) on a very hot July day. Have you researched any other MORC marks in your area? kayakbird Quote Link to comment
+palmetto Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 The benchmark database was loaded to Geocaching.com in 2000. I don't think there's been any update to it since. http://www.geocaching.com/mark/#whynotin Quote Link to comment
+Hillbilly Girl Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 The Corp of Engineers placed a couple new markers near the Missouri River, using CMSM identification numbers. Is there a Groundpseak database for them? I have located several geodesic markers but these two differ from the standard. I wonder if they are, perhaps, associated only with the railroad or Corp of Engineers? GeoMarker1 GeoMarker2 Quote Link to comment
kayakbird Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I have located several geodesic markers but these two differ from the standard. I wonder if they are, perhaps, associated only with the railroad or Corp of Engineers? Your first one is a point in the rectangular grid of the Public Land Survey System and was placed by licensed surveyor #3550. The second one looks to be a brand new (dated 2013) point set by the COE and may or may not make it into the NGS database at some point in the future; but for sure will never be part of the GEOCACHE game. MEL Quote Link to comment
+Hillbilly Girl Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I have located several geodesic markers but these two differ from the standard. I wonder if they are, perhaps, associated only with the railroad or Corp of Engineers? Your first one is a point in the rectangular grid of the Public Land Survey System and was placed by licensed surveyor #3550. The second one looks to be a brand new (dated 2013) point set by the COE and may or may not make it into the NGS database at some point in the future; but for sure will never be part of the GEOCACHE game. MEL Thank you for your timely response. Markers are within a few meters of each other and the second was set in June, I believe, near a railroad spur feeding a soon-to-be-defunct power plant. Since I could not locate them in any database, I was unsure what part (if any) they would play in Geocaching. You've been extremely helpful .. thank you! Edited August 30, 2013 by Hillbilly Girl Quote Link to comment
DaveD Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 The PID for station CMSM-01 is BBCZ31. It's published by NGS as part of the relatively new database they created that is often called OPUS-DB. Quote Link to comment
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