NGS Surveyor Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 Here are links to photos of the front and back of a very unusual survey disk. Front: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12262796@N06/5263222063/ Rear: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12262796@N06/5263221811/ The front is stamped “U.S. COAST & GEODETIC SURVEY, TRIANGULATION STATION…” and the rear is stamped “U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY, TRIANGULATION STATION…” I don’t know if this was a mistake, a shortage of brass, or something else. GeorgeL NGS Quote
Bill93 Posted December 15, 2010 Posted December 15, 2010 The air hole would be a clue as to its age. The USGS side stub of a stem looks brazed on? Can you see any signs of the expected triangle under the brazing to show that it was a complete surface originally? Quote
NGS Surveyor Posted December 15, 2010 Author Posted December 15, 2010 Right, disks with air holes were used by USC&GS from c1952 to c1969. I looked at the back with a magnifying glass and could see no signs of a triangle. GeorgeL NGS Quote
Z15 Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 (edited) I personally recovered a disk like this back in the 80's. It was on USC&GS tri station set in 1954. Other side said USGS. I screwed up and let one of our GPS Surveyors out of Lansing take it so I have no idea who has it now, him (JS), the NGS advisor listed in the rec notes (now retired for 10 yrs) or if its in the NGS/MDOT Survey Office in Lansing, MI. This it the mark, we found it uprooted from the ground and Ramjet came up and reset it some years later. QL0672_U.S. NATIONAL GRID SPATIAL ADDRESS: 16TDR4020569064(NAD 83) QL0672_MARKER: DH = HORIZONTAL CONTROL DISK QL0672_SETTING: 7 = SET IN TOP OF CONCRETE MONUMENT QL0672_SP_SET: SQUARE CONCRETE MONUMENT QL0672_STAMPING: LORETTA 1954 1984 QL0672_MARK LOGO: NGS QL0672_PROJECTION: PROJECTING 3 CENTIMETERS QL0672_MAGNETIC: N = NO MAGNETIC MATERIAL QL0672_STABILITY: B = PROBABLY HOLD POSITION/ELEVATION WELL QL0672_SATELLITE: THE SITE LOCATION WAS REPORTED AS SUITABLE FOR QL0672+SATELLITE: SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS - May 30, 2001 QL0672 QL0672 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By QL0672 HISTORY - 1984 MONUMENTED NGS QL0672 HISTORY - 19840823 GOOD NGS QL0672 HISTORY - 19840823 GOOD NGS QL0672 HISTORY - 19920421 GOOD MIDT QL0672 HISTORY - 20010331 GOOD NGS QL0672 HISTORY - 20010530 GOOD UPENGN QL0672 HISTORY - 20060904 GOOD GEOCAC QL0672 QL0672 STATION DESCRIPTION QL0672 QL0672'DESCRIBED BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1984 QL0672'STATION IS LOCATED IN QUAD. 450874, ABOUT 8.05 KM (5.00 MI) EAST OF QL0672'VULCAN, ON A SMALL BARE HILL ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF A GRAVEL ROAD. QL0672'TO REACH FROM THE INTERSECTION OF U.S. HIGHWAY 2 AND THE MAIN STREET QL0672'IN NORWAY WITH THE CAUTION LIGHT, GO EASTERLY ON U.S. HIGHWAY 2 FOR QL0672'3.86 KM (2.40 MI) TO A CROSSROAD IN THE NORTH EDGE OF VULCAN. QL0672'CONTINUE EAST ON HIGHWAY 2 FOR 7.56 KM (4.70 MI) TO A GRAVEL ROAD QL0672'LEFT. TURN LEFT AND GO NORTH ON GRAVEL ROAD FOR 0.32 KM (0.20 MI) TO QL0672'THE AZIMUTH MARK ON LEFT OR WEST SIDE OF GRAVEL ROAD AS DESCRIBED. QL0672'CONTINUE NORTH FOR 0.24 KM (0.15 MI) TO TOP OF SMALL HILL AND QL0672'STATION ON LEFT OR WEST SIDE OF ROAD AS DESCRIBED. QL0672'STATION PROJECTS ABOUT 1 INCH. IT IS 10.363 M (33.999 FT) WEST FROM QL0672'THE CENTER OF THE GRAVEL ROAD, 1.524 M (5.000 FT) EAST FROM A QL0672'NORTH-SOUTH FENCE LINE AND 0.457 M (1.499 FT) EAST FROM A MWP. QL0672'A TRAVERSE CONNECTION WAS MADE TO THE AZIMUTH MARK USING ELECTRONIC QL0672'DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT. QL0672'HEIGHT OF TARGET SHOWN ABOVE THE MARK WAS 1.5 METERS. QL0672'RECOVERED BY RONALD L. RAMSEY, NGS GEODETIC ADVISOR-MICHIGAN. QL0672 QL0672 STATION RECOVERY (1984) QL0672 QL0672'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1984 (CLN) QL0672'THE STATION MARK WAS FOUND WITH THE TOP PART OF MONUMENT BROKEN OFF QL0672'AND LAYING ON ITS SIDE. REFERENCE MARKS 1 AND 2 AND THE AZIMUTH MARK QL0672'WAS FOUND IN GOOD CONDITION. ALL MARK ARE NOW FLUSH WITH GROUND. THE QL0672'UNDERGROUND STATION MARK WAS RECOVERED AND THIS POINT WAS HELD TO SET QL0672'A NEW SURFACE DISK. THE DIRECTION FROM THE AZIMUTH MARK TO REFERENCE QL0672'MARK 2 CHECKED THE OLD DATA, THE DISTANCE TO REFERENCE MARK 2 WAS QL0672'FOUND TO BE SHORTER BY 0.041 METER (0.135 FT) THE DIRECTION FROM THE QL0672'AZIMUTH MARK TO REFERENCE MARK 1 DID NOT COMPARE WITH THE OLD DATA NOR QL0672'DID THE ANGLE BETWEEN REFERENCE MARK 1 AND 2. THE DISTANCE TO QL0672'REFERENCE MARK 1 WAS ALSO FOUND TO BE SHORTER BY 0.026 OF A METER. QL0672'THE TO REACH FOR THIS STATION IS STILL ADEQUATE TO FIND THE STATION. QL0672' QL0672'THE STATION IS A STANDARD NGS DISK STAMPED--LORETTA 1954 1984--, SET QL0672'INTO THE TOP OF A ROUND CONCRETE MONUMENT, 10 INCHES (30 CM) IN QL0672'DIAMETER, PROJECTING 1 INCH (3 CM) ABOVE THE GROUND. THE STATION IS QL0672'LOCATED 10.363 METERS (33.999 FT) WEST FROM THE APPROXIMATE CENTERLINE QL0672'OF GRAVEL ROAD, 1.524 METERS (5.000 FT) EAST FROM A NORTH-SOUTH FENCE QL0672'LINE AND 0.457 METERS (1.499 FT) EAST FROM A METAL WITNESS POST. QL0672' QL0672'REFERENCE MARK NO 1 IS A STANDARD CGS DISK STAMPED--LORETTA NO 1 QL0672'1954--, SET INTO THE TOP OF A SQUARE CONCRETE MONUMENT, 10 INCHES QL0672'(30 CM) IN DIAMETER, FLUSH WITH GROUND. THE STATION IS LOCATED QL0672'7.315 METERS (23.999 FT) EAST FROM THE APPROXIMATED CENTERLINE OF QL0672'GRAVEL ROAD, 0.305 METERS (1.001 FT) WEST FROM A NORTH SOUTH FENCE QL0672'LINE AND 0.305 METERS (1.001 FT) NORTH FROM A WITNESS POST AND 1.2 QL0672'METERS (3.9 FT) HIGHER THAN THE STATION. QL0672' QL0672'REFERENCE MARK NO 2 IS A STANDARD CGS DISK STAMPED--LORETTA NO 2 QL0672'1954--, SET INTO THE TOP OF A SQUARE CONCRETE MONUMENT, 10 INCHES QL0672'(30 CM) IN DIAMETER, FLUSH WITH GROUND. THE STATION IS LOCATED QL0672'11.582 METERS (37.999 FT) WEST FROM THE APPROXIMATE CENTERLINE OF QL0672'GRAVEL ROAD, 0.305 METERS (1.001 FT) EAST FROM A NORTH SOUTH FENCE QL0672'LINE AND 0.305 METERS (1.001 FT) NORTH FROM A WITNESS POST AND 0.5 QL0672'METER (1.6 FT) LOWER THAN THE STATION. QL0672' QL0672'AZIMUTH MARK NO 1 IS A STANDARD CGS DISK STAMPED--LORETTA 1954--, SET QL0672'INTO THE TOP OF A SQUARE CONCRETE MONUMENT, 10 INCHES (30 CM) IN QL0672'DIAMETER, FLUSH WITH GROUND. THE STATION IS LOCATED 10.363 METERS QL0672'(33.999 FT) WEST FROM THE APPROXIMATE CENTERLINE OF GRAVEL ROAD, QL0672'0.914 METERS (2.999 FT) NORTH FROM A 4 X 4 INCH WHITE WOODEN QL0672'WITNESS POST, 0.610 METERS (2.001 FT) EAST FROM A NORTH-SOUTH FENCE QL0672'LINE AND 0.305 METERS (1.001 FT) EAST FROM A METAL WITNESS POST. QL0672'STATION IS LOCATED ABOUT 5.0 MILES (8.0 KM) EAST OF VULCAN ON A SMALL QL0672'BARE HILL ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF A GRAVEL ROAD. TO REACH FROM THE QL0672'INTERSECTION OF U.S HIGHWAY 2 AND THE MAIN STREET IN NORWAY GO QL0672'EASTERLY ON U.S HIGHWAY 2 FOR 2.4 MILES (3.9 KM) TO A CROSSROADS IN QL0672'THE NORTH EDGE OF VULCAN. CONTINUE EAST ON HIGHWAY 2 FOR 4.7 MILES QL0672'(7.6 KM) TO A PAVED ROAD LEFT WHICH TURNS INTO GRAVEL. TURN LEFT AND QL0672'GO NORTH FOR 0.2 MILE (0.3 KM) TO THE STATION ON LEFT AS DESCRIBED. QL0672 Edited December 20, 2010 by Z15 Quote
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