capt caper
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6 hours ago, Viajero Perdido said:
Some cell phones, maybe.
Design one for the outdoors and rough use, and everything changes.
To the OP's question, no. You can get OSM maps for free elsewhere.
That still doesn't hold a candle to a Garmin Handheld. It's comparable to the 20 yr old Garmins.
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On 4/4/2019 at 9:51 AM, Atlas Cached said:
Always the 'cell phone' crowd promoting their less durable, lower run-time hero's that once dead can not be re-energized for an additional 20+ hours with a simple pair of fresh AA batteries....
Cell phones are fine for urban activities, but when you actually leave civilization for the real outdoors, not so much.....
amen.
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28 minutes ago, JohnCNA said:
I had the same thought at first that not being able to carry spare AA's would be a limitation with multi-day hikes. Then it occurred to me that my recharge brick is just about the same size and weight as a pack of 4 AA spares. And it would recharge the GPS as well as my phone 4+ times. I would expect the lithium battery to last longer in the first place and if it has a modern charging circuit it would charge quickly. With my phone and its fast charging circuitry, I can connect it to my brick and go from 40% to 100% in 30-40 minutes or so. And I can continue using the phone while it's recharging. Getting rid of my AA's and their charger would not bother me at all.
Right on. It is far from a short coming. Li's work in freezing temps better and charge faster and release power evenly down to zero. It's a much larger battery in this one so it would be impossible to change out in this given case and hardware. Like I said above. Anyone who thinks going on a extended usage trip would use many means available today. Garmin is fully aware what they've built and did so with style. Nice unit.
Nice unit but I'll stick with my ResQlink. Its a fact the 406 mhz and 121mhz and gps linked signals instead of the 2.4 ghz frequencies 66i are much more reliable.
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Have you read the book Where you'll find me? published by Ty Gagne head of the NH public risk management? if not read it. I have. That's the real account of what happened straight from the rescuer's mouths. The article you quoted was a second or third hand reporting. The ResQLink was used and the first activation was the spot she was near when found. The others were gps signals bounced around the mountain from her putting it into her pack actually. Up there in those conditions she was done anyway when she activated it. as it takes hours for the teams to organize and get up there.
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3 hours ago, Atlas Cached said:
Looks like 121.5 MHz is on its way out!
It's still used by search and rescue as they have all the equipment still. They use it to pin point your location if needed. Via helicopter or hand held units I read. As the gps signals can be off. Case of Kate that died here one winter on the mountian is one failure of gps. https://www.outdoors.org/articles/appalachia-journal-blog/too-cold-the-death-of-kate-matrosova
If you check out the video part 1 and part too all the way thru especially the later half of part 2 describing Inreach ,spot etc.
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On 6/8/2019 at 1:46 PM, Atlas Cached said:
All inReach devices I am aware of have dedicated internal Li-Ion batteries. More capacity than AA.
I wonder if the 66i does 406mhz as well as 121.5 mhz. garmin doesn't state this any where I've seen so far. Res Q Link does. This is why I bought it. From what ACR says in their Utube the Inreach types don't broadcast on those frequencies and will fail to contact rescue in some situations.
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On 6/7/2019 at 4:40 PM, Mineral2 said:
My understanding is that the 66i has an iridium receiver built in and can communicate directly with the inReach service. This is unlike the others in the 66 line which communicate via an inReach (mini) device first to connect to the network. The 66i represents a huge step forward - a fully functioning GPS navigation device with the ability to communicate SMS over satellite.
Still not sure what the point of the 64x line is. Why would Garmin drive users away from the 66 devices?the 64 is one popular series and is smaller then the 66 so why not keep it. Not like they had to retool completely. I bet they made some nice changes in the menu options,etc too.
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No 2.70 available for me either from GX or BC
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check that the pins aren't stuck down a bit. Where they are they collect dirt etc. Push down on each. Clean with something like alcohol while pushing down on each pin. I had that happen and this cured it.
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On 5/31/2019 at 2:49 PM, Mineral2 said:
I'm curious about that. The Montana has the older screen that dates back to the Oregon 450/550 - that is, I don't recall anything being updated with the 610/680 models that suggests the screen to got an upgrade. I believe it's still backlit with the old method of using a small fluorescent bar. The Oregon 600/700 have an LED backlit screen which is just beautiful and bright in all lighting conditions, though it's bright just using the reflective layer with the backlight off during the day.
I had a 66st while back and turned the screen up high on a cloudy day outside. Also my 680T was at hand. Big difference. I re orderd the 66ST for the wife so I'll compare again but I know these units enough that I nailed it the first time that cloudy dark day.
I'm hoping the quad helix antenna works better then the Montana while it's in my shirt pocket. When I travel light without a pack. With the pack the Montana is set out from my body and in a holder on a thick shoulder pack strap that gets it away. Seems the body blocks or effects the barometer or gps elevation as my elevation graph shows spikes but not wearing the pack. The track is perfect after 6 hrs in the woods and mountain revines,etc. Just the elevation data. Not sure if the mileage is perfect but the track recorded every three seconds shows perfect tracking. No spikes.
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On 5/31/2019 at 4:05 PM, Atlas Cached said:
There is no USB-C port on the GPSMAp 66, it is a micro-USB port. And yes, it is horrible...... and not serviceable.
Thanks I have a 66st coming tomorrow to check out.
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2 hours ago, Mineral2 said:
The chassis size of the Montana could be slimmed down in a redesign. But as far as screen size goes, there's not that much room for something intermediate. The oregon, though... there's quite a bit of wasted space on that glass since it covers more area than the screen. I would love to either seen the screen enlarged such that it reaches edge to edge, or the chassis reduced such that the screen reaches edge to edge. As it stands, it looks like screen technology from 2008. But then, no one has ever accused Garmin of being at the forefront of technology design. I mean, they only just NOW decided to adopt the micro-USB port when the rest of the industry is abandoning it for USB-C.
Edit: I think their decision to switch to micro-USB is misguided. That port is way less durable than the mini-USB A that they had been using.I read the C port on the 66 has been loosening. I believe it was at Gpsrchive issues. Also again the Montanna has a better brighter screen from a type of backlight that the Oregon 700 doesn't. Which in dark or low light conditions shines so much over the 66.
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On 5/27/2019 at 12:25 AM, Atlas Cached said:
I have three Montana GPSr. They are great for the Side x Sides, but too slow and feature limited for any other use.
i use it for hiking and snowmachines. great for both still. I tried the 66st but sent it back. screen sucked too small track lines and not bright when you need it.
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I had the 66st and thou it's nice I'll take my Montana any day. A few ounces doesn't matter and the size is nothing much different then the 66st length wise anyway. Screen is much brighter,track is much more pronounced on the Montana.
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Try setting the routing settings in the settings menu under navigation to direct no road or bike etc. This happened to our Oregon 700
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My wife and I hike up to caches and many hikes up to 13 miles or so and we never have the same results. Sometimes were real close but I don't count on it. Been this way for years. Her's is the Oregon 700T mine the Montana 680T. We bought have the track log set for once every 3 seconds and auto pause off. Gps settings the same as well.WAAS ,etc. And load it into Basecamp to compare tracks as well as MapSource.
Go figure.. different internal computing. It doesn't take much to make them different.. just carrying ways or how one hikes would effect it as well over a day.
And since it's a phone I wouldn't count of great results in the data transfer,etc like a dedicated Garmin and Basecamp would give.
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4 hours ago, Viajero Perdido said:
Yes I'm sure.. still a phone..rugged is subject-able...android,non battery change and life, can't load great maps into it and manage back and forth transfers of routes,favorites,tracks with ease. And many more.. The Ruby does all but is king of none.. All this has been covered.. I would not follow a so called hiker or mountain guy with one.
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17 hours ago, Red90 said:
I don't use a phone either. I own four different handheld Garmins.... My point is that most people do, including those very serious backcountry users and I thought it would be interesting to see what sales figures are like compared to previous years. The discussion has come up many times in group of very serious users and it is clear over 90% use phones or an inReach. There are very few using dedicated handhelds. The current crop of ruggedtized Android phones are just as durable so there is less basis to automatically say a dedicated handheld is the only choice.
As to Mr. Atlas, it is not your job to decide what people are allowed to discuss. The direct personal insults, though, are not an acceptable way of communicating.
I'm so glad Garmin came out with this 66S. So much better then past versions.. Sorry but the current crop of phones aren't nearly as durable as a Garmin handheld GPS.. you'r way off on this one.. And not as versatile. Again I think your hanging with the wrong crowds..Ha.. most hikers I see on popular trails wear sneakers,no support gear and use cell phones..not my type...
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On 11/28/2018 at 9:48 PM, Red90 said:
They are not expensive compared to what GPS used to be. They are expensive compared to a phone and what it can do. I'm quite active in serious hiking and mountaineering groups. 90% of people use phones for navigation and when you look at younger people it is close to all of them.
Don't want to hijack the thread.. Garmin still builds rugged and useful handhelds and this 66s seems to be one still. I would not hike with anyone that uses a phone if I had left my Montana 850T home.. too many cons for that use.. I mean real hiking.. back country into mountains or any where one relied on having to navigate for safety. especially.
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Key pad gps's will work good in all weather. Extreme cold. gloves and rain.
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On 9/17/2018 at 1:49 PM, Red90 said:
I've seen no performance difference between the different modern antennas, so personally I think it is not something to worry about.
I agree as far as the Glonass/Gps combo.. amazing .. compared to just gps and waas..although not so much the antenna.. I just tuck the 680 into my (wifes 700 is the same) pocket and it records perfect and accurate all day in deep ravines while hiking up mountains and while bending over scrambling up rocks or down ledges,etc.
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GE is going to charge big bucks now to companys using it in their programs,etc. This is why Garmin dropped it I bet.. look for other programs to drop it as well.
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21 hours ago, MaliBooBoo said:
3.33 is the last stable update. I would (and am) reverting back to that one unfortunately, And 3.40 wasn't even a beta.
thanks.. will do..
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13 hours ago, jimlarkey said:
Garmin tech support lost his track in his OR750, as well.
For rollback, see the F/W section under the following:
http://www.gpsrchive.com/Oregon 7x0/index.htm
GCD Update Procedure
- Use the links in Firmware History to download the zipped file for the desired version
- Unzip the downloaded archive and extract the gcd file
- Rename the gcd file to gupdate.gcd
- Remove µSD card from the Oregon 7x0, if present
- Connect the Oregon 7x0 to your computer and enter Mass Storage Mode
- Copy the gupdate.gcd file to [GPSr]\Garmin\gupdate.gcd
- Disconnect and reboot the GPSr
- Once the update is completed, the GPSr will delete the gupdate.gcd file
Thanks... so this beta was ok? I'm downloading now
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Garmin GPS 64ST no longer able to download tracks to NG TOPO
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I save my tracks into Basecamp and Mapsource then convert the to gpx by using MS i.e. save as gpx. Then open NG Topo and under handhelds go to import wizard. Import from gps file that has tracks,routes,etc. Then choose make as single track. I then save as tpo file. If I want more tracks on a file I use "file then merge tpo file. Been doing this since NG first issue of Topo. I have the later one as well. Yes it's a good program but limited as all the rest are. Thus I use MS Basecamp as well. I too have tracks datiing back to 1995. First used with external antennas on my packs until Glonass came on the seen.