Guest skyboy Posted October 24, 2000 Share Posted October 24, 2000 Do most of you set to True North of Magnetic north?? Quote Link to comment
Guest nz_etrex Posted October 25, 2000 Share Posted October 25, 2000 I personally set to True North but set the Mag North offset so that my etrex takes this into account. Quote Link to comment
Guest scott Posted October 25, 2000 Share Posted October 25, 2000 I use true. I set the mag. dev. on my compass so I can use true on it also. As long as everything you use is set the same it shouldn't matter. When I try and do the deviation in my head I usually screw it up. (Never did get the meaning of "east is least and west is best"... Quote Link to comment
Guest scott Posted October 25, 2000 Share Posted October 25, 2000 I use true. I set the mag. dev. on my compass so I can use true on it also. As long as everything you use is set the same it shouldn't matter. When I try and do the deviation in my head I usually screw it up. (Never did get the meaning of "east is least and west is best"... Quote Link to comment
Guest jeremy Posted October 25, 2000 Share Posted October 25, 2000 True north allows you to use a map without doing any calculations. Depending on your location in the world there can be huge differences between magnetic and true north, or none at all. Maps use true north, so if you're using one it'd be easier to navigate if you have an electronic compass that can calculate true north. Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Guest skyboy Posted October 25, 2000 Share Posted October 25, 2000 Then it sounds like I made a good decision. I chose True north. Its been a while since I taught the Orienteering Merit badge but isnt our declination here in UT somewhere around 12-17 degrees? Quote Link to comment
Guest CaptainCurmudgeon Posted October 26, 2000 Share Posted October 26, 2000 >>declination here in UT somewhere around 12-17 degrees?<< Yep, although most of the state is between 13 and 16. But hell^h^hck, everyone in Utah can find true N/S E/W -- it's the way every street in every city, town, and village runs. [Of interest to Utahns only: I think we can thank Orson Pratt for that.] Quote Link to comment
Guest robanna Posted February 15, 2001 Share Posted February 15, 2001 does anyone know of a site that you could go to and type in your location and it gives you the declination for that location? Quote Link to comment
Guest Ciemon Dunville Posted February 15, 2001 Share Posted February 15, 2001 quote:Originally posted by jeremy:True north allows you to use a map without doing any calculations. Depending on your location in the world there can be huge differences between magnetic and true north, or none at all. Maps use true north, so if you're using one it'd be easier to navigate if you have an electronic compass that can calculate true north. Jeremy That's not true Jeremy... some maps don't use UTM as a base (which uses true north). In the UK, the Ordnance Survey of Great Britain based the grid on one that follows the line of the country a bit better. Consequently, in the UK we have grid, true and magnetic north!! So the way it generally works here is to use magnetic North on your compass and do a "Grid to Mag add, Mag to Grid get rid" calc depending on whether your going from map to compass or vice-versa. Confusing eh! Ciemon Dunville Quote Link to comment
Guest swangner Posted February 15, 2001 Share Posted February 15, 2001 For geocaching, anyway, I set to True North. I'm not really using my magnetic compass until I get close (within 200 feet or so) of the cache anyway, and with distances that small, the difference between magnetic and true north are almost negligable. Quote Link to comment
Guest Vilks Posted February 15, 2001 Share Posted February 15, 2001 I use True North myself as I discuss with people from all over & magnetic north varies of course depending on where/when you are. and to answer robanna's question about a site to set mag declin from lat/long I use http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/seg/gmag/fldsnth1.pl Quote Link to comment
Guest ScottJ Posted February 16, 2001 Share Posted February 16, 2001 Well, call me silly doing it the way everyone else DOESN'T, but I leave my Garmin set to auto magnetic variation. The isogonic data in the Garmin is pretty accurate, so I can count on a good mag bearing. No need to adjust my compass, either, although my compass allows it. In geocaching, I seldom find the need to get map bearings, since the GPS is telling me everything I need to know. I only carry the map as a reference to the landforms (which hill is steeper, etc.) Scott Quote Link to comment
Guest mcb Posted February 18, 2001 Share Posted February 18, 2001 to agree with ScottJ. Auto magnetic variation. My compass does not let me compesate for variation so I just let the GPS do it for me. I rarely use maps while geocaching but I do take one with me just in case. Matt Quote Link to comment
Guest Hamster Posted February 18, 2001 Share Posted February 18, 2001 Me2, I am a Magnetic North Guy. I'm 2 lazy to worry about the calculation. Plus, when I use maps, my maps are so small that my position on there is not very accurate anyway. Quote Link to comment
Guest scott Posted February 19, 2001 Share Posted February 19, 2001 I've discovered I'm "bi"! If I'm using a paper map (rarely when geocaching) I set the GPS to true and adjust the compass. If I don't use the paper map I set the GPS to mag. and set the compass to zero declination. So far it works well either way. -scott Quote Link to comment
Guest scott Posted February 19, 2001 Share Posted February 19, 2001 I've discovered I'm "bi"! If I'm using a paper map (rarely when geocaching) I set the GPS to true and adjust the compass. If I don't use the paper map I set the GPS to mag. and set the compass to zero declination. So far it works well either way. -scott Quote Link to comment
Guest fairbank Posted February 19, 2001 Share Posted February 19, 2001 Ciemon Dunville wrote: >That's not true Jeremy... some maps don't >use UTM as a base (which uses true north). >In the UK, the Ordnance Survey of Great >Britain based the grid on one that follows >the line of the country a bit better. >Consequently, in the UK we have grid, true >and magnetic north!! Only the UTM grid line at 500.000km (center of a zone) points to true north. All other grid lines point to grid north which can be up to 2 degrees in the U.S. Look on the bottom of any USGS topo map and you will find the declination for magnetic north and grid north. These maps are old so never use the magnetic declination from them. Eric Quote Link to comment
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