Ben Pid Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 OK I today planted my newest cache called "The Chiltern Summit" and it is on Forestry Commission land in Wendover Woods. I wanted to know if anyone else has planted one on this sort of place and is it actually allowed? I see no reason why it wouldn't be because the place is open to the public for walks etc til 9pm at night but I was unsure, and would some other peoples views on this. I will add though that the cache location is perfect. Thanx all. Pid xxxx Watch out its a Golfcourse... (Team Dan + Pid) Quote Link to comment
+The Hornet Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Hi Pid, my take on this would be that anywhere to which the public has access is a valid location for a cache. Two obvious examples are public footpaths or common land. Another good spot would be National Trust land. Although not strictly speaking public, they do encourage free roaming over much of it. I would see forestry commission land in the same light. I know some caches are located on private land to which an entrance fee must be paid. So bottom line - if you have legitimate access to the land it's good for a cache. Peter Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted June 4, 2002 Author Share Posted June 4, 2002 Yeah your right I think. The only fee you will have to pay to get in here is for parking, which I don't think strictly matters because 1-) its only like 50p and 2-) R there really going to be traffic wardens in the middle of the countryside? I know Traffic wardens are a pain in the backside but there wouldnt be any up there blatently. Pid Quote Link to comment
Team Tate Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Two of our caches are within the New Forest on Forestry Commission controlled land. The bye-laws are quite in depth but as long as people respect the land (not playing loud music, taking litter home, keeping out of the way of the wildlife, etc.) there should be no cause for concern. Team Tate Remember - if it's moving, it's not dead... Quote Link to comment
chuffer Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Most of the Caches in the Great Yorkshire Cache Hunt were placed on forestry commission land and I thought it wise to ask if there would be any problems placing caches within the area we were working for the event. The reply I recieved read..... "I need to know certainly within 100 yards the location of any cache on Forestry Commission property in the area so that I can advise if you if disturbance is a problem. This is a particular concern for birds scheduled under section 1 of the wildlife and countryside act where there are heavy penalties for 'reckless' disturbance." The Forestry Commision contact I was working with was extremely helpful and even visited us at the event start area to have a chat on the day of the event. There seemed to be no problems with Forestry Commision land as all the caches were approved. What HAS become clear to me is that there is insufficient guidance available on Geocaching.com (or any other sites) on where you can or can't place caches. It would seem to me that there should be an official UKgeocaching group formed with the intentions of approaching major land owners, legal bodies and the such in order to get clear guidelines on how to get caches approved on public/private land, footpaths, river banks and the like. Such a group could also arrange public liabilty insurance for events under its umbrella. Chris More Quote Link to comment
Team Tate Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 If you wish to place a cache in the New Forest, permission must be sought from Jane Albery who can be contacted on (023) 8028 3141. I must admit that I have not (yet) asked permission for my two caches, so I will disable them until permission has been granted. Team Tate Remember - if it's moving, it's not dead... Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 It seems to me that there needs to be an official place in which to collate all the information about where you can plant caches and whose permission you need within the UK. Ideally it would be somewhere on www.geocaching.com, but could - if we can't get the location set up - be on a web site here in the UK. I'd be glad to donate some of my 1000Gb quota, except that the URL will have to start "jeremyp.net". ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by jeremyp:I'd be glad to donate some of my 1000Gb quota, except that the URL will have to start "jeremyp.net". That is a huge quota. Who hosts it? ----------------- el10t mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+The Hornet Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Rather than repeat my other posting please check out the UK Guidelines thread started by Moss Trooper. It adds to the discussion. Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted June 5, 2002 Author Share Posted June 5, 2002 1000GB! Struth Mate.....thats one hell of a big Server....or series of servers! I should jolly well think you would be able to use about 40kb of it.....lol! I agree that it would make sense to have a page which outlines the guidelines because I would imagine some people (Liek me) could get confused. If there was a page there wouldnt be an excuse. I am now going to go and hunt for the thread Peter talks of. Pid Watch out its a Golfcourse... (Team Dan + Pid) Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 It might have been 1000 Mb, but that's not the point. The service I bought gives me unlimited disk space which technically is even bigger than 1,000Gb. The provider has an advert at the bottom of my home web page. In checking the above, I found a bug in the HTML on my index page. When I uploaded the fixed version, the ftp server told me that the file system had 350Gb on it, so that is my real upper limit. ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
chuffer Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Hmmm... Could you be refering to bandwidth, not disk space. Chris Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted June 6, 2002 Author Share Posted June 6, 2002 lol,,,who knows. How about we hunt boxes instead of server space and FTP limits. Pid Watch out its a Golfcourse... (Team Dan + Pid) Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 quote:Originally posted by chuffer: Hmmm... Could you be refering to bandwidth, not disk space. Chris Supanames don't limit bandwidth either, although they do ban mp3s and mpegs. 1000 Gb of bandwidth would be extremely impressive ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 quote:Originally posted by chuffer: Hmmm... Could you be refering to bandwidth, not disk space. Chris Supanames don't limit bandwidth either, although they do ban mp3s and mpegs. 1000 Gb of bandwidth would be extremely impressive ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I reckon Chuffer is right. The Supanames stuff seems to supply 1000Mb maximum disk space (at a cost) and unlimited bandwidth. ----------------- el10t mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+Subarite Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I would like clarification of the status of caches on FC land. I placed a cache on the 3 June and removed it the next day when I realised that it was not on 'public' land. The area is completely accessible (anywhere) but even so I was worried that it wasn't right. I will put a cache in the area but may decide that it should be on a right of way. Any comments? Andy. Quote Link to comment
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