foxtrot_xray Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 ... Only in Texas: CS2453 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By CS2453 HISTORY - 1983 MONUMENTED NGS CS2453 HISTORY - 19950408 MARK NOT FOUND USPSQD CS2453 HISTORY - 20030430 GOOD NGS CS2453 HISTORY - 20030431 GOOD NGS CS2453 HISTORY - 20071114 GOOD FRONT .. Do we have 31 days in April. Quote
foxtrot_xray Posted September 1, 2018 Author Posted September 1, 2018 Add that this isn't the only one, and of the ones I DID find and checked online.. it's all by the same NGS agent. I wonder if this is some kind of calling card, for years in the future, and am now wondering if I should do something similar. (I mean, it's been 15 years.. and noone's found it. ) Quote
foxtrot_xray Posted September 1, 2018 Author Posted September 1, 2018 So, anyways.. I'm rebuilding my database for the Google Earth template. This station was found while loading: AA4433 *********************************************************************** AA4433 DESIGNATION - DALAP AA4433 PID - AA4433 AA4433 STATE/COUNTY- ML/PROVINCE OF REPUBLIC OF MARSHALL ISLANDS AA4433 COUNTRY - REPUBLIC OF MARSHAL ISLANDS AA4433 USGS QUAD - AA4433 AA4433 *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL AA4433 ______________________________________________________________________ AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) POSITION- 07 05 19.55893(N) 188 37 16.75461(W) ADJUSTED AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) ELLIP HT- 30.111 (meters) (06/27/12) ADJUSTED AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) EPOCH - 2010.00 AA4433* LMSL ORTHO HEIGHT - 3.0 (meters) 10. (feet) GPS OBS AA4433 ______________________________________________________________________ AA4433 LMSL orthometric height was determined with geoid model OSU 91A AA4433 GEOID HEIGHT - 26.51 (meters) OSU 91A AA4433 GEOID HEIGHT - 28.828 (meters) EGM08 AA4433 NAD 83(PA11) X - -6,258,214.252 (meters) COMP AA4433 NAD 83(PA11) Y - 948,848.105 (meters) COMP AA4433 NAD 83(PA11) Z - 781,880.589 (meters) COMP Nothing odd about this little baby. Except later in the import process, I get an odd Duplicate PID error, and in a different file, I find this: AA4433 *********************************************************************** AA4433 DESIGNATION - DALAP AA4433 PID - AA4433 AA4433 STATE/COUNTY- TQ/ AA4433 COUNTRY - US AA4433 USGS QUAD - AA4433 AA4433 *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL AA4433 ______________________________________________________________________ AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) POSITION- 07 05 19.55893(N) 188 37 16.75461(W) ADJUSTED AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) ELLIP HT- 30.111 (meters) (06/27/12) ADJUSTED AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) EPOCH - 2010.00 AA4433* LMSL ORTHO HEIGHT - 3.0 (meters) 10. (feet) GPS OBS AA4433 ______________________________________________________________________ AA4433 LMSL orthometric height was determined with geoid model OSU 91A AA4433 GEOID HEIGHT - 26.51 (meters) OSU 91A AA4433 GEOID HEIGHT - 28.83 (meters) EGM08 AA4433 NAD 83(PA11) X - -6,258,214.252 (meters) COMP AA4433 NAD 83(PA11) Y - 948,848.105 (meters) COMP AA4433 NAD 83(PA11) Z - 781,880.589 (meters) COMP Same station, but different State, County, Country. And, in case anyone is wondering, the Google Earth plugin -EXCEPT for the USGS overlays - will be back up no later than Monday! Quote
Bill93 Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Well, they say everything is bigger in Texas, but I hadn't heard that it applied to months. The Marshall Island location is what comes up when I look up the PID at NGS. It appears that Geocaching didn't load the marks in the Pacific, as that one doesn't appear. I note that NGS must not trust their Pacific geoid model to be as good as most of the US, since the ortho elevation is rounded more than the numbers that go into it. I think Ellipsoid Ht minus geoid equals orthometric height if it is GPS derived (or very close to it if the mark has a leveled height and it was a constraint on the fitting of the geoid). AA4433* NAD 83(PA11) ELLIP HT- 30.111 (meters) (06/27/12) ADJUSTED AA4433* LMSL ORTHO HEIGHT - 3.0 (meters) 10. (feet) GPS OBS AA4433 ______________________________________________________________________ AA4433 LMSL orthometric height was determined with geoid model OSU 91A AA4433 GEOID HEIGHT - 26.51 (meters) OSU 91A Edited September 2, 2018 by Bill93 Quote
foxtrot_xray Posted September 3, 2018 Author Posted September 3, 2018 Yeah - I noticed that - and notices some sheets outside of the 'US' has a few other oddities (just as being set many, many years in the past, but the 'Monumented' date is recent,. like in the early 2010's.. In either case, the GE KMZ should now show stations. Updated as of August! Quote
foxtrot_xray Posted September 18, 2018 Author Posted September 18, 2018 Here's another fun one!! God, I love this crap. PID: DQ8778 This has two interesting notes. First, if you go to try and pull up that PID on the website (using 'By PID' option), you get: INPUT ERROR - Invalid mark. Contact NGS Run Terminated. This mark IS AVAILABLE in the montly archives, and what I believe is causing the error is this odd Vertical Accuracy: DQ8778* NAVD 88 ORTHO HEIGHT - 84.75 (meters) 278.1 (feet) h-N COMP "h-N COMP"? I haven't seen that one before. Whohoo. Quote
Bill93 Posted September 18, 2018 Posted September 18, 2018 https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_mark.prl?PidBox=DQ8778 This works for me. The h-N computation means that the orthometric height (what people usually think of as ~elevation above sea level) was computed by GPS and a geoid model, and no level run was made to the mark. Since this is in remote northern Alaska, I can see why. Quote
foxtrot_xray Posted September 18, 2018 Author Posted September 18, 2018 Yes, the direct link works. Not the PID search. Quote
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