Winos_Seattle

KEEP THE BENCHMARKS! My wife and I have been geocaching since June of 2014. Our first cache was hidden under a ledge with a benchmark on top overlooking the Grand Coulee dam. "A Kings View". Before geocaching, I had not heard of geocaching. However, I was a benchmark hunter. I've got about 125 official geocaching benchmark finds and approximately 4 benchmark challenge finds. In Waymarking, I'm also within that spectrum. I vote a STRONG NO to archiving and getting rid of these historical and location driven markers. It's always a cherry on top when finding a cache and spotting a marker. Especially when you have to dig it out a little from the overgrowth of time. Winos_Seattle/Mrs. Winos/Half_Pint Issaquah, Wa., USA

The Original Stash was found mutilated, of course with the can of beans. The reason why it was in such bad shape is that a road crew lawnmower tractor drove over it and shredded it. From what I understand, after reading "Archive / Unarchive" rules and/or policies and from discussing this with numerous volunteer reviewers (5), this APE cache is legal to be unarchived. Because, it was not only found FULLY intact, but it was also found with original contents in it. What the blog did not say, is that we found it with the original Planet of the APEs collectors cards in it. As long as the cache is found intact and operational, it's still can be replaced in it's original location. There's no sense in placing it at HQ and then letting people log it when they see it there. That's not going to happen. It has to be replaced in it's original location. I have spoken to the Tribute Cache CO. Hypnopaedia, who will archive his to give room to the original can. We also have a highly sophisticated hi-tech protection system that can easily be implemented. So that the cache can't be just ripped off and if it is ripped off, It will be on State land and we will know who it is before they leave the area. Plus, with all of my work and effort and my team's work and effort, we value the Ape Cache container at $351.00. This ensures that if someone does steal it and we have their identity, we can get him on not only a State level crime, but also on a felony. MUCH, MUCH more severe than a simple tupperware theft. What do you think?

Maybe the icon should be awarded if you found either one. Of course, only if GC300N0 were archived and replaced with the re-activated original. If you found both, your Ape cache find count should only say one (unless of course you find Southern Bowl, then you would have 2) The problem with that is that the Tribute cache GC300N0 is "not" the A.P.E. cache. I fall under the status of having "Found" the recovered "original" cache and not having been able to log it as a find. I started too late. boo-hoo.

A “Participation Trophy” I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up at headquarters, but I doubt and that's a big DOUBT, that they would make the icon or logging it available if it stays at HQ. I believe Geocaching.com would only make the icon available if the "original" container was back on it's "original" GZ. Good news: We found the "original" container and we've got the "original" GZ available to us if the caching public wants it back enough.

Thank you.

This is lame because I suspect those that already have the icon are voting for the museum and those that don't have the icon are voting for reactivation. yes. I would have to completely agree with that. That's why suggestions and comments are important. Make your point, but make it loud.

I think you and the rest of the team should definitely be allowed to log it whether it's reactivated or not. Please tell that to Moun10bike, Bryan Roth and Jeremy. 4 of the 10 never logged it.

Yes, I sure do. In fact, if anything, an APE cache lost even longer in the past would be a way bigger deal. Does the logic that led to the recovery search for #9 make sense for the other APE caches? Oh, it probably would get some discussion. I'm not so sure that it would have been initiated by a survey posted by Groundspeak asking what should be done with the container. I'd love to be in on that discussion. Let me know if our team can help. Although I had a conversation with Clever Cacher out of Melbourne Australia about Mission #8 and we agreed last night that that one is most likely gone. The cache was hidden in a highly used public park just east of Melbourne, 100 feet south of a major street in 1.5 terrain. I'd hate to say it, but even the recovery of a charred lid or swag or TBs would be extremely difficult 11 years later, if not impossible.

We're going to go back up in May with metal detectors to try to find things that we didn't recover. i.e. Lids, trackables, coins, metal swag, and we'd also be looking for muggled containers to GC79 and the iron horse express. The idea is to scour the area and make sure we've found at least 90% of what we know has been muggled. You're welcome to join us, noncentric.

Answer to a forum question: The tunnel is usually closed from end of october to early June, but the Annette trailhead and trail up to the Iron Horse trail is open. I've hiked the 508 foot incline both in the summer and in winter with both boots and snowshoes. It's not a really bad or difficult hike. The idea of traveling it around is neat, but I've also hear that they're not too keen on traveling caches, so I'm not sure if that'll pass. --- I also believe that a cache is meant to be found and not meant to be stored away in a closet. As the architect to this recovery and someone who has not logged it (although, I did find it ) its perfectly natural for me to lean on the idea to reactivate it. It is the original container too. PLUS: we've got some great ideas on how to protect it. High tech and low tech ideas. This is 2016...anything is possible. In the end, my intention was to make this cache special again. The look on Moun10bike's and Bryan's face upon returning it to HQ the following Monday was priceless. It's as if their child had come home. I loved seeing that expression. I didn't realize how big of a discovery this was until my time spent reading forum threads from around the world took me into the weeeeee hours of the evening every night since Friday Nov. 11th. I'm extremely proud of the team we picked for this mission. Every one of them was instrumental in some way in making this happen. I'm flabbergasted by the outpour of support from the geocaching community and really hope this makes an impact on current and future geocachers worldwide for a very long time.

I guess you mean, "quit my bitching and get on with it!!" Funny...That's what my wife says too. I like. Thanks for the advice.

You have complete control over every aspect of this portion of your geocaching experience, and it's really quite simple: 1. Don't post in the Forums. 2. Send all your emails from the website to a spam folder. I would recommend doing a quick review of DNF, NM, and NA log types OR just Archive all the Listings you own on your Profile. 3. Don't attend Events. You can mix and match this strategy to your liking, depending on the source of the interaction with the Community that bothers you. If all else fails, the Terms of Use might be useful, but it's much easier just to remove yourself as the object of criticism.

I've been geocaching since June 3rd of 2014. Thanks to the security force at the Grand Coulee Dam in Grant County, Washington. August 1st of last year I decided to go on a streak. 31 days. Then that became 50 days. 100 became 200 and now I'm up to 223. 223 days with at least a geocache (including all types) per day. This is my streak!! not some challenge or tour. At the time, I didn't even know there were Challenge caches that reward this type of caching. I try to hit caches every where I go, I leave caches alone in my town because you never know if I don't have to leave town and need a cache. I rescue rubber duckies from caches and I love creating and hiding educational caches. Recently however, I've been getting a bunch of gripe from some other cachers out here about how I cache, how I hide my hides, how I don't use a GPS and use of my iPhone, how I don't DNF unattempted searches, etc.... I don't know about you, but I cache however I like to cache. The only trinkets or Swag I collect are Rubber Duckies. I'll hide a cache wherever I want to, with whatever GPS I want to use!! There are caches out there that have hurt their searchers, BAD!! if I can't hide a Guardrail cache because its too close to the road, then don't come and get it!!! If I don't have $400 to buy a Garmin and my iPhone works well enough, then don't make me feel little because I'm not as chicque as you!! If you think it's against all Geocaching and Groundspeak rules to NOT DNF a cache when you just drive by it and think "hmmmm, there's a cache that I'll come back to", then maybe you should try getting a job at Groundspeak and change the rules. I'm a good geocacher. I love getting out every day and seeing new things. I love taking photos of new interesting caches that make me wanna think about how I can make a better one. I love my streak and all my rubber duckies are on a shelf smiling up upon me as I walk by them every morning. I'm not perfect. I'm a geocacher with a Rubber Duckie Straight Streak. Who are you?!?