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Is this upgrade no longer available (you mentioned it was for a limited time)? I looked around and didn't see any mention of it and no matter where I added xmap pro to the cart it was listed at $200. Thanks, dfg

I was able to complete some of the revisions I mentioned in my original post, specifically: - fixed zoom/levels (reduced "clutter" when zoomed out) - decreased tile size slightly, aligned to USGS 100K tiles The increase in usabilty/performance from fixing the zoom/levels is dramatic - made me realize the previous version was not quite ready for prime time... The package size has also been reduced to 34MB (from 80MB). If you downloaded the previous version, please get this newer version - no need to uninstall the previous version, this will install over it. The website and installer are here: http://www.miscjunk.org/mj/mp_cotopo.html Your comments are welcome. Thanks, dfg

Hynr, Below is what I now have for the headers. Nothing really special about my settings - pretty similar to what you will see in other examples. One thing to note is the the global EndLevel declaration in the DICTIONARY section isn't very well documented - it allows you to specify it once and not have to include a Levels= or EndLevel= entry for each item (only if you're using a dictionary). Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, dfg [IMG ID] ID=59474886 Name=fred DrawPriority=31 Elevation=F LBLcoding=6 Codepage=0 Marine=N Copyright=Copyright 2007 - dfg Preprocess=F POIIndex=Y Transparent=N TreSize=2500 RgnLimit=1024 Levels=5 Level0=22 Level1=20 Level2=18 Level3=17 Level4=15 Zoom0=0 Zoom1=1 Zoom2=2 Zoom3=3 Zoom4=4 [END-IMG ID] [DICTIONARY] EndLevel=4 ; ; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ; 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 Level0RGN40=11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 Level1RGN40=11111001101000000101000000000010010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Level2RGN40=11111000001000000001000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Level3RGN40=11100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ; ; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ; 12345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890 Level0RGN80=11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 Level1RGN80=00100000000000000001110000000111000000000000000000000000000111111111111110000000 Level2RGN80=00000000000000000001110000000111000000000000000000000000000111111111111110000000 Level3RGN80=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ; ; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; 123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0 Level0RGN10=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 Level1RGN10=1111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000001010000000000 Level2RGN10=1111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000 Level3RGN10=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ; ; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ; 123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0123456789abcdef0 Level0RGN20=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 Level1RGN20=1111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000001010000000000 Level2RGN20=1111111111111111100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000 Level3RGN20=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 [END DICTIONARY]

Yes, 40 is nice but it really increases the time to generate the contours and compile the maps. I'll probably also download a higher resolution DEM if I end up doing the 40ft contours. Currently I'm using the SRTM DEM. None of the steps really require GlobalMapper (GM) and GM is not a full fledged GIS. But GM does make a couple of steps a lot easier. It has filtering and layering which help with setting up feature types, it can generate contours from DEM data, it can grid the data (create a set of tiles from a larger set of data) and it can now directly export to MP (Polish) format. When I first started making GPS maps I used GpsMapEdit and still use it occassionally for testing/debugging. I had to sell some "toys" so that I could afford to buy some software... I've definitely used that page in the past (along with other references like the ones listed on the GpsMapEdit's website), also the "Making Your Own Maps" book by Owings. My current workflow isn't that much different. A high level overview: figure out what I want to do... gather all the data (DEMs, road data, hydrology, POIs, etc.) load it all up into GM generate countours within GM assign feature types to layers/subsets of layers do any special processing needed (usually for names, road signs, etc.) export MP files from GM (usually gridding the data into smaller tiles) testing (compile a few tiles with cgpsmapper, checking/tweaking levels & zooms, checking mapsoure integration, loading into GPS and testing, etc.) compile mapset, preview - setup installer (if I'm going to share with the world) I realize that's not much detail - let me know if you have questions about any particular step... I'll clean up what I have for the Colorado mapset and post it in the next day or two... dfg

Thank you. Actually, CODOT has statewide layers for lakes and hydrology that I used. For my projects I always look for state or local sources of data first before going to the national data sets. The state/local data - if it exists and if it's available - is usually more up to date (more relevant for roads, etc. than hydrology of course). I've not used the site you mentioned - I just took a look at it and it does seem like it would be very painful to get any large amount of data out of it... I'll respond to your other questions later this evening when I have some more time. Thanks, dfg

I basically used waypoints/tracks from the web and 4wd books to find the general definition of the trails and then hand digitized them using 1m aerial photos - here's an image showing a before/after: http://www.miscjunk.org/mj/images/syncaerial.jpg Turns out nice but was very time consuming... I was running out of time before our trip so than I did the general topo set. I was thinking about putting the 4wd trails (with the custom line style) in the general CO topo set but I wasn't sure since I didn't have a complete set of trails... dfg

I built this mapset for a trip this past summer and finally just got around to cleaning it up a little for public consumption... http://www.miscjunk.org/mj/mp_cotopo.html I'm going to do another revision in the next couple of weeks to address the following: - fix zoom/levels (reduce "clutter" when zoomed out) - decrease tile size slightly, probably align to USGS 100K tiles - clean up the land status layer, fix names - (maybe) improve contours to 40 or 50ft (currently at 80ft) For a trip next year I'm also working on the state of Utah and should have that ready in early-mid January. Your comments are welcome. Thanks,

Here's a visual: http://www.miscjunk.org/mj/mp_mapset.html

Assuming that you're looking for free data - it's basically going to be hit or miss depending on where you're at... Areas (states, counties, cities, etc.) have varying degrees of data - with varying degrees of accuracy - and varying policies on whether they make the data available to the public. There's national data sets (tiger), usually state datasets (check your state DOT), and sometimes county datasets (check to see if your county website has a GIS page) - google will probably be your best bet, do searches with the phrase "GIS data" plus the name of the area of interest.... Hope that helps,

Their format is fine - not sure what you think is incorrect? They are using deg min sec - is it the decimal seconds that are throwing you off? If so, just round the sec to: 39 15 52 and 122 41 55 Your program is using deg min - the seconds are the decimal part of the min. I don't know that software but most will let you pick which format you want the coordinates displayed in. The decimal difference between your converted program numbers and their numbers could be due to accuracy of the original measurement, rounding, or a datum mismatch. The coordinates can be expressed as: 39.2643 -122.6986 (dd.dd) 39 15.8593 -122 41.9181 (dd mm.mm) 39 15 51.5592 -122 41 55.086 (dd mm ss.ss) All of these represent that same point and are considered "normal"... Assuming the negative for US longitudes is not standard but I see it quite often. Hope that helps, dfg

No, I ended up selling it on ebay...

Unable to edit the original post - price reduced: $300 (free shipping CONUS)

USED Garmin Rino 520 FRS/GPS Receiver Purchased in July 2006 - I have another GPS and don't use this one as much as I thought I would... Unit is in excellant (like new) condition and has never had any issues. There are NO scratches or scuffs on the unit or display. I've only used the unit 3-4 times. Main features: - 12 channel receiver with WAAS capability - radio channels: 7 FRS, 15 GMRS, 8 GMRS repeater - 56 MB internal memory (for loading map sets) - color back lit display - turn by turn routing - built in basemap Includes everything shown below: Full specifications of the Rino 520 can be found on Garmin's website: http://www.garmin.com/products/rino520/ Included accessories: - manual & quickstart guide - wrist lanyard - belt clip - USB interface cable - AC adaptor - 12V car adaptor - RAM-Mount cradle Note: There is no software (maps) included with this unit. Please let me know if you have any questions. $330 (free shipping CONUS) Thanks,

Sorry - although I've never tried it I thought it would work. Mapsoure is the "viewer" software for all of Garmins mapping products. Another way would be to install GpsMapEdit from: http://www.geopainting.com/en/ It is an editing program (for the purpose of creating Garmin img files) and you could open the img files to see the detail... Hope that help,

Well, you could download Garmin's Mapsource: http://www.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209 Then, download and install the maps you linked to... dfg

A couple of more: http://www.gpxchange.com/ http://www.gpsxchange.com/ Yes, they're different - note the "s"....

This is bascially the same as what Red90 states but with screenshots: http://www.miscjunk.org/mj/mp_mapset.html Indy

I'm replying from work - from memory - so I may be way off base....but: 1) I've never seen (or tried) to have the LOC location be different from the other 2 - so you might want to try making it: And of course making sure the files are actually there. 2) I always seen numerical product codes used - not names, so you could try: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource\Products\1234] where the number 1234 is unique (from the other products installed) Hope this helps,

I'll assume you're comparing 60Cx versus 76Cx....? Functionality wise they are pretty much the same. The biggest (main?) difference is physical - size, weight, shape, button configuration. Have you had a chance to hold both of them? Your preference for button configuration (on bottom for 60, on top for 76) may decide the issue for you... If you have a store nearby where you can pick them up and hold them - I would suggest you do that before you decide. Indy

YES, the basemap is an exception, it will not be erased when loading a map set.

There are a couple of utilities that will send them to your GPS. One is sendmap - I believe you can get it from www.cgpsmapper.com. You don't have to "turn on" the maps once there're loaded but note that loading them will erase whatever maps you have currently loaded. If you use Mapsource there are ways (both by hand or with a software utility) to integrate these custom maps into Mapsource - this makes it easier to load the custom maps PLUS other mapsets at the same time... Indy

Yes, or hide all and show topo. Basemap is the very limited map included with the units - in the US I believe it just covers interstates and major highway. It has no side street detail and is pretty limited in use. As far as the manual - even if they tried (which they don't) - it would be pretty hard (and expensive) to keep the manual up to date. Garmin tends to add features during every firmware revision and it would be difficult for them to keep the manual in sync. For example, the menu you were asking about was only added a year or so ago with a firmware update. And in the end the manual is good enough for beginners. Once you get more advanced you'll tend to navigate to forums like this or the corresponding Yahoo groups, etc. Indy

You're correct that when you load new maps to your gps all existing ones are erased. The answer is to load both at the same time. In Mapsource select all maps in the topo product, switch to navigator and select all maps and then upload... Indy

I've purchased from both of the following with no problems: http://www.gpscity.com http://www.getfeetwet.com/ (site is sometimes confusing)

Are you talking about this menu? SHOW ALL does show all of your maps but the maps are not transparent and you will see the one with the highest draw priority. The show all, hide all, show/hide option on each mapset lets you easily select which one you want to be visible. Hope that helps, Indy