Sluggo

Here since May 2001 and into the future. I've re-located from the Pac NW to Alabama and cache when I can, I just don't do the forum thing much anymore. I had forgotten about her, mtn-man. What was the girl's sock-puppet screen-name and the model's real name? Hi EraSeek, good to see you're still active. You were a great help when I was a newbie.

Jeremy, I know you are in the planning stages and probaly don't know the answers yet, but: Night time?... Day time?.... Weekends?.... Weekdays?.... 1 hr?... 2 hrs?... 1 Day?... 3 Days?... I would love to participate. Ive got a hp iPAQ Pocket PC and Sugar uses that darned ol' Garmin IQue 3600 (that I hate). I would only be able to do weekends. Let us know, Sluggo BTW: I work for the guvment.... we are the masters of the N D A (violators are shot on site, or even worse, discredited).

After years of local bulletin boards, CompuServe, and internet discussion groups I swore I would never read or post to a discussion group again (circa 1996). In 2001 I discovered geocaching and this discussion group. I told all the newbies to get on the board, ask questions, and get answers, 'cause this discussion group was better than any I had ever seen. No bickering, just a few friendly arguments and some teasing and lots of useful information about geocaching and related subjects. In the last year it has degenerated into that morass that all the other boards descended into years ago. Alas, popularity has its dark side also. The efforts of the VOLUNTEERS to restore order and keep the topics between the lines, with the expressed purpose of serving the geocaching community are commendable. I support them. If you need freedom of expression, set up a (free) yahoo discussion group, invite others to join you (in this forum) and go after each other. There you can “instant message” or “instant flame” yourselves into an “anarchist’s paradise”. Otherwise, let’s get this discussion group back to supporting geocaching and geocaching activities. My $0.02 worth, your mileage may vary. One of my best friends is a frog.

Congratulations logscaler and Red, you are two AWSOME people. Let’s see now… You started caching May 4th 2001 and found number 1000 on October 19th, 2003… umm... lets see… carry the zero… divide by 2… round up… You should hit 2000 around May 4th 2006… that’s about the time I’ll hit 250. GREAT JOB! Sluggo and Sugar This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

both logscaler and I started geocaching in May of 2001. I have 153 finds. He has 947 finds. My oh my... Gee Whiz... WOW! This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I referred to logscaler as a "cache machine" once, but it isn't the only description that describes what he is. Having had the opportunity to observe logscaler and Red hunt a cache (from a safe distance), I feel uniquely qualified to comment on what logscaler's might be called. Here is what logscaler Is and is Not: Is - a cache machine Is - a cache dog (dawg for us Southerners) Not - a cache wimp Is - a cache alligator Is - a cache jet Is - a cache rocket Not - a cache slug Is - a caching tornado Is - cache savvy Not - cache indifferent Not - easily deterred Is - intolerant (of unfound caches) Is - a cache reactor Is - cache lightning Is - in tune with the natural vibratory frequency of the polymers used in the manufacture of Tupperware Not - allergic to hard work Is - allergic to hard work that doesn't allow him to geocache going "to and from". He says he has never hunted a cache while actually AT work. Is - a great guy and a credit to the geocaching community. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I don't fly now, but I bought my Garmin GPS III Pilot in 1996 and used it a lot as a backup/toy. It was never use as a primary means of navigation. It seemed cumbersom and just a lot of added tasks in the cockpit to use it in any other way but passively. (Maybe with the exception of the Emergency button which shows you the 10 nearest airpoirs and goes right into the "Navigate to" mode.) Now with a couple of years geocaching and practically living with a GPS, I think I would be tempted to use it as primary (VFR only, I'm not instrument rated) and cary the charts, E-6B, etc, as back-up. I can see how you could loose your navigational proficiency from using only GPS. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I know nothing about Legends or any software for outside the USA, but I had a similar problem with my Map76S. Try un-checking the box that says "Allow high-speed interface - if errors are recieved" (or something like it) and see if you still get the error. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Lee David Rimir, Get over your bad self. Why ask a group of people that you don't know, that you have no idea about their backgrounds, education, knowledge, etc a technical question, on a non-comercial (hobby) web-site for YOUR business purposes, and then chastize (sp) them for commenting about your "client". I think I would ask these questions of a consulting group or Trimble, Garmin, or Magellan. I'm sure they would give you straight answers, take your money, and not wonder (and inquire) about your client. Criminal, I'm thiking more about coal and ani, if we put a lump of coal up LDRs butt, in about a week we would have a diamond. - Sluggo This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I see aliens every time I take a leak. (You see on Trafalmador we call mirrors a "leak in the universe" so taking a leak is looking in a mirror. I did see some unidentified flying objects here This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

You are sooo right og's outfit. This thread does need an enema! Now, it's time for a little decision-making. Where should we put the tube? This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Hey logscaler, Corp of discovery, et. al. I have never met a Mensa member who wasn't an arrogant a******. Who spent most of their time trying to inflate their ego at the expense of other people’s dignity. Leave the arrogant troll alone and go back to geocaching. We geocachers (I guess he isn’t one) are just troglodytes hunting for Tupperware. We can’t possibly win an argument with him; it would destroy the natural order of things. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I’m not the most imaginative person and I’m not the most energetic person, but when I hide a cache, I try to imagine that it will be found by a local cacher when taking a newspaper/television reporter who is doing a story on geocaching out on an actual find. Will it reflect well on the geocaching community? I realize that the logs will be my primary source of feedback. So, I hope that everyone who logs my caches is being honest with me when they say; “Thanks for the hide.” If they say that, it must be an okay cache (i.e. doesn’t suck). I try to be honest in my logs, polite, but honest. If the cache “really sucks” I will also include suggestions for improvement in an e-mail to the owner. When I come across a cache that appears that the owner tossed the Gladware container full of McToys out of the car window and hit the “Man Overboard” feature on the GPSr and logged it as a cache I usually note who the owner is and don’t get over anxious to hunt subsequent caches hidden by them. Renegade Knights treatise touched a string deep inside me and made me chuckle at his expression of feeling that I have had many times in the last few years. I think it is well-stated. (I too will by him a drink if given the opportunity.) However, I fear he is “whizzing in the wind”. I haven’t had a lot of success in my life getting the masses (or is it “them asses”) to play the game (of life) the way I want them to. The only tool I have is positive reinforcement (I’m an instructional technologist by trade), so I invented the Sluggo’s Ammo Box Grading System. When they get it right, I praise them with a 3 or 4 ammo box score. See my post on THIS cache. When they get it wrong, I give them honest feedback. I think this topic (thread) has the potential to improve the quality of the caches out there, but I fear that the ones who are reading it are not the ones that need it. Thanks for listening (reading), Sluggo This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Ditto Here... I broke the 4-Pin connector on my Map76S through pure stupidity on my part. I needed it in about 14 days, so they promised a 10 businesss day turn-around. (The cynical side of me said; "Yeah RIGHT!") On the 5th calendar day it came back (Overnight Express) with firmware upgrade and a whole new back. Routes and waypoints were restored GREAT service. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Well said, logscaler.. You 'da man... PS: My ETHICS are bigger than your ethics. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I agree with you, EraSeek. I keep a kit with me that isn’t so much full of trade items, but rather things to “doctor” a cache. (Pens; geocaching.com notice-page in English and Spanish; small, inexpensive log books; tape; and some Zip-Loc bags.) I carry some inexpensive trade items also in case the cache has been raided (an all-to-common problem here in the Tri-Cities). I have only replaced one cache container and I notified the cache owner, because I wasn’t sure that where I found it was where he/she left it and there was a color description on the details page that no longer matched after I had fixed the cache. I try to FIX the cache if it has something fundamentally wrong with it, not RE-DESIGN it to suit me. I have yet to have the cache owner e-mail me back and say; “Darn-it Sluggo… I wanted that cache to be full of water and the contents wet because the Zip-Loc bag had a hole in it. You ruined the whole theme of my “Soggy Logbook Cache”. I have had others “doctor” my caches and let me know about it and I appreciate it. Sure, I could get out and do it myself, but I might not get to it before the next finder. What I hate to see is a log entry that says; “This cache doesn’t have a pen in it.” Or; “The log book is full, you should replace it.” I try to let the cache owner know when the logbook is nearly full, not wait until it is full (the same with cameras). Do I feel that this is my responsibility as a cacher? NO WAY! Do I think I have an ethical obligation to fellow cachers to help make geocaching an enjoyable pastime for all of us? DEFINITELY! This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Usually when I say virtual, the modifier "lame" goes in front of it. But, this case seems to me to be the appropriate use of a virtual cache. I voted to list it. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

In a rare moment of seriousness: I have had heat exhaustion. I have removed contraband from a cache knowing that I could loose my security clearance just for handling it, but caring more about geocaching’s reputation than my security clearance. I’ve introduced young people to a healthy, sane and family oriented hobby. I’ve hidden information about a “Government within the Government” near a super-secret laboratory. I’ve stood in wagon ruts that were over 100 years old. I’ve talked to the ghost of an Army Airman who trained in Ephrata in 1943. I’ve seen a 100 year-old house that was trapped in a vortex. I wandered through the desert, looking at sagebrush, crossing the Mullen road and felt Aridextradry. I’ve been on a blue mountain and found where two rivers meet. I went the “right way” but for the “wrong reason” and still felt good about it. I found a geocache (WA), a geocache near a cow patty, and a geocache near a line shack. I saw fairies in Cameron Woods and found a geocache (IL) 2000 miles from home, but no fairies in Wood’s Woods... I found a HUGE spider inside the Shady Rest. I found a cemetery in a place that I had to bushwhack 0.25 miles to get to and it had fresh flags on every grave. I scared the s**t out of four kids when I went beyond the grave. I sat on a stump and wondered where the dang cache was. I hid and waited 8 feet from the fence as the guards changed shift in the early dawn at a State Prison. I dislocated my shoulder, but persevered and found the cache, then 7 more. I actually picked up doggie doot to look for a clue. I showed my grandson dinosaurs while hunting. I’ve meet people from all walks-of-life that I would have never meet otherwise, because we didn’t have anything in common, just to find out that we had one thing in common. Then we became friends. I described myself as part Santa Clause and part Boo Radley because I liked associating with people through caches (remotely) rather than in person. One year later I was organizing the East Cascades Geocaching Society “gatherings” so I could meet face-to-face with my fellow cachers. I know geocaching has changed me, I hope I have changed geocaching (in some small, positive way). This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

quote: What about intelligent life on other planets in other galaxies that may be parallel geocaching... the truth is out there.... Jeff ROTFLMAO Hey! We are geocaching on other worlds. On Trafalmadore we call it Trafalmocaching (but we still use geocaching.com to register our caches and finds). You know Jeff I've traveled all around the universe and I still haven't found a better place to live than B'ham. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Verrrrryyy good oregone! I’ll recommend you to all the under 25 (and I assume over 18… -remember I’m a “Mandated Reporter” so watch what you say) girls I know.* I’m sure that ad will get a lot of response. Of course, you might add a few more conditions to your specifications. I’m just basing this on your reputation here at geocaching.com, but I would think that human, breathing, under 400 lbs, etc should be there also. However, that human thing you might want to reconsider. A frraack the Trafalmadorian equivqlent of a human woman can be pretty attractive at times, and downright exhausting (wink, wink) most of their season. We have a saying on Trafalmador that loosly translates like this: Once you’ve had a frraack, you’ll never go back, The Klingon Karaoke thing just isn’t my bag. I can’t get excited about producing three-dimensional waves in an elastic medium when I can go to Tewas-12 and do the ether-wave 7-dimension fluidication all through hyperspace. Sorry, it just all seems so childish to me. *[check my profile if you don’t get it] This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

LadyStevenson, you are a class act. It is obvious that you're sensitive to others' needs and are willing to say the words that so few of us will say... "I'm Sorry" (Except for Brenda Lee of course.. she said it at about $2k a pop). Having said that I think rather than asking admin to remove this thread, we should let it stand as a monument to Forum Etiquette. And after having said THAT, I think I'll just Hi-Jack this thread! Here goes: If you (your screen name and/or avitar) were needing work tomorrow, how would you advertise yourself on the Geocaching.com "Northwest" Forum? I'll go first: If anyone needs an Alien Fleet Advance Scout, I AM available. I have had about 7 twarts experience searching for weapons of mass-destruction (WMD) both within and outside of the time-space continium. I also speak 17 dialects of Trafalmadorian including "besar" (a dialect spoke only by the comedians on Trafalkoradore-7). I will work for only 3.7 daliakerds a day plus expenses and travel (that barrion antigravity fuel has gone up again). Call on e-mail if you need my help. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Double-click on their name on the cache details page logs. If you arent on a details page, go to "Hide and Seek a Cache", search for caches found by username, click on any cache, then follow the step above. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Blatently Off-Topic: Logscaler, Where did you get the Kitty Cat? This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

I started with a Garmin GPS III Pilot that I bought in 1996 (I think) for flying and just recently got a Garmin gpsMAP 76S. I loan the GPS III Pilot to newbies BEFORE they buy a unit, but it isn't very easy to learn on or to use, so I'm trying to score a used Yellow E-Trex for that purpose. This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

No lets let it go for now. But, if he does it again, double-posting from two member accounts will henceforth be known as “Pulling a Jeremy”! This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious. - Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff