Cryptik Souls Crew

Thanks for the update, recently found a bug in this race while caching in NYC (much to my surprise) Glad to see its doing pretty well!

I suggested this ages ago, the response I got was I should just post a note and upload all the photos to the gallery. Not really the answer I wanted, but hey, I tried....

No worries, I love a bit of banter.

Bring it to the next event and I'll even sign it for you

We used to leave calling cards, we had 100 plastic backed cards and left one in each cache we visited as well as signing the logbook. After reading a previous thread of this type we never bothered getting more when they ran out, seems loads of people have a strong dislike to cards in caches. I personally don't sit and read through the logbook of every cache I find, its not always practical, and I can't always decipher people's handwriting I like to be able to flip through cards and see who has visited, especially with some of the more creative cards which are instantly recognisable. I can see why some people don't like finding a cache stuffed with cards which just feature a team name and the GC.com logo.

Because it is nearly as bad as mentioning ..... M_l_o_ G_i_s_a_ OK I'll bite... _i_t_n _r_m_h_w

I've done several of your caches, if you can get co-ords good enough for me to find a film canister Im sure they will be good enough to find a tree 1m in diameter ;-) I'll get some more info for you both, any more takers?

While liasing with a local conservation group to arrange a CITO event for CITO day this year I have been asked if any cachers may also be interested in helping out with another project which they are undertaking. Although not strictly CITO, it is an environmentally beneficial study. Below is a copy of the email they have sent me, any takers please feel free to get in touch with me, either through my profile or by posting here.

Is this really only a week away? Wow, someone ought to bump this thread...

I've seen a few geocoins auctioned for charity fetch $1500+

The setter has explained why they deleted the log. They have adjusted the difficulty so obviously took your comments on board, it isn't as though they have scant regard for people's safety and deleted your log in the hope someone would come along and cause themselves an injury. You could have approached the situation by logging your find and sending them a friendly email through their profile voicing your concerns and advising them that you feel their listing may benefit from some additional warnings other than the standard ones placed on the pages by geocaching.com Caving and climbing may be field of expertise for you, but may I suggest you work a little more on people skills in future? Before you hit that send button in the forums just consider whether the matter might be resolved more quickly and less painfully in private. Suggestions are much more likely to be taken on board than instructions! Anyways, that's my piece on this topic now. If I wasn't so jetlagged I would have shut up hours ago....

Well, I stand by my comments. I would tell anyone who came on here and posted "The actual series looks ill conceived" about anyone's caches to get off their high horse. These decisions are what reviewers are for, and if they say its ok then it's no-one else's place to say otherwise. Least of all publicly in a belittling way.

I haven't done the cache, but here's my opinion anyway.... There is a warning on every cache page, pointing you to the geocaching.com disclaimer, which states in large bold text: Cache seekers assume all risks involved in seeking a cache. My question is, do you wear a helmet in case you fall off your high horse??

Another victory for the cache police! Moote have you considered that going in with both feet and posting every gripe you have with caches in the public forum is maybe not the best way to go about things? As a representative of GAGB I would expect you to be encouraging cachers and caching as a game/sport/hobby to develop, yet it comes across to me that you are just trying to stamp your own authority all over it. Im sad to see someone archive their cache due to what basically amounts to public disparagement from someone who is supposed to hold a responsible position within a geocaching organisation, and feel this also reflects badly on GAGB itself. A bit of tact, decorum and private communication wouldn't have gone amiss in this situation would it?

Hint does not mean a quiz or complex puzzle, It could mean looking at a date on a building (which your GPS has brought you to) to determine the next set of coordinate though. I think you kind of missed the point I was trying to get across. Just because the guidelines say *most* have a hint, doesn't mean the cache type is reserved exclusively for those which do. Hence preceding this statement with "There are many variations" With guidelines which are not very strict and open to personal interpretation I don't think anyone can really go charging in saying loads of people have labelled their caches wrongly. I agree that the definition of a traditional is quite clear, but the difference between a multi and a puzzle can be a very grey area. Simple solution is to read the cache page before you go looking eh?

I don't read it that way, I read it that a Multi-Cache (offset Cache), all the information is available on site in the form of questions that can be answered by finding a location with the GPS, or the next piece of hidden Tupperware. You should not require any further aid like internet or a book whilst on site. Mystery or puzzle caches, this is clear that the published coordinates are completely bogus, if you go to the coordinates it will lead you nowhere Therefore a Multi-Cache (offset Cache) has to have an initial set of defined coordinates and a Mystery or puzzle caches do not have these. Also the Multi-Cache (offset Cache) all the information should be available on site, the only thing other than your GPSr that might be needed is a list of questions for on site answering. I can see why people might be confused but to me it is clear. Moote Here are the important bits, as I see it Multi cache: "There are many variations, but most multi-caches have a hint to find the second cache" Puzzle: "The only commonality of this cache type is that the coordinates listed are not of the actual cache location but a general reference point, such as a nearby parking location." Based on this I don't know where your statements: "Therefore a Multi-Cache (offset Cache) has to have an initial set of defined coordinates" and "Also the Multi-Cache (offset Cache) all the information should be available on site" get their basis from, as this isn't specified by the guidelines.

Well, if you have a look at the geocaching.com description of cache types here you will see that some caches could well fit into either the multi or puzzle category. I normally find that reading the cache description on the page makes it quite clear what to expect, no real need to worry about which icon is at the top.

Yes it does! see the other thread. T Read it, still don't see your point. If you mean claiming FTF, then as they haven't found it they aren't FTF. You would still get to sign an empty logbook and (hopefully) enjoy finding the cache. I doubt it, as I said, it has no effect on me so why spend my time doing it? I often find on maintenance visits that people have signed the logbook and not logged their find on the website. I don't get aggrieved about that, or set up a sock puppet account and log it for them The rules of geocaching don't stipulate anything about logging finds on the internet, no cheating is going on, just false logs on geocaching.com Ultimately, if everyone shared my outlook on this and paid no attention it would soon enough stop, the more wound up you let it get you, the more likely it is to keep happening!

Why does anyone even care? It has no real detrimental effect on anyone else's enjoyment of the game if someone chooses to behave this way, yet lots of people seem to be getting in a flap over it. You wouldn't catch me running out to police my caches. Which is more sad, claiming finds you haven't made, or giving up an afternoon to go and check whether or not someone found your cache and then rushing home to delete their log because they haven't?

As well as having a trip odometer, my gps also has a total distance odometer, so I'm guessing most gps receivers do. Since I bought my gps just over 3 years ago it shows that it had covered a total distance of 26748 miles, I've owned it for 1160 days, giving it an average mileage of 23.46 miles per day. So, for no particular reason, I'm wondering how many miles everyone else has put on their gps...?

I think you would have to prise it out of Jon's cold dead hand before you could find out.

Does transmission of the other users position work outside the USA/Canada?

I very much doubt it.

If u have a bluetooth mobile then this is far and away a better option. I rarely find unsecured networks that I can connect to except in very urban areas, and the charges for wifi access are way higher in places which charge than it would cost you to access the cut down gc.com portal via your phone. For access in the field GPRS beats wifi hands down and it doesnt cost very much to boot.

I've tried in the past contacting local authorities trying to find areas in need of a good tidy to no avail, they just don't seem very intereted. Im not deterred so will probably try and get something sorted, maybe for CITO 2006 day, whenever thats gonna be...