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OK, besides me, who had to look up the word?

Yeah, what is it with that? I can't figure out why I run across so much underwear strewn about in the woods. It definitely ain't hobo underwear, I'll tell ya... And sometimes it isn't just the underwear, it's the entire set of clothes. I figure someone had a breezy walk back. (And I'm pretty sure it wasn't NudeCacher unless he wears purple lace bikini underwear. )

Yeah, me too. Although I wasn't geocaching, but rather "critter caching", as it were. Was wearing full camo and had my AR15. Walking up a dry creekbed, I came around a turn where it opened up somewhat and I found myself just about in the middle of what I estimated to be about 100 "portable" plants in 5 gallon buckets that were covered with gunnysack material. It took a few seconds for it to register what these 4 - 5 foot plants were all about but then... I felt rather, uh, vulnerable, even with a couple of 30 rd. mags. I hauled butt back to my vehicle through a less visible route and got the heck outa Dodge. I didn't want to be shot and I didn't want to be mistaken by the law as one of the responsible parties. I did report it to the SO but never heard anything more after that. Of course, that hasn't scared me out of the backwoods for future critter caches. Sadly, I consider that part of the course nowadays. And more on the topic of geocaching, I have found a used pipe that someone donated or traded, but since that is on the "forbidden in geocaches" list, I did my part by removing it (yeah, I actually traded, then lost it.) Have never found anything like the OP did and certainly wouldn't let it keep me out of the woods. Like another posted said, take it as an opportunity to launch a discussion and as a father of two (teen and twenties), keep that line of communications open. Neither you or your son will be sorry. Ken

It sucks when the up-close vision starts going away. I should probably get some actual prescription glasses one of these days, but I trade low power readers (1.25 for my "looking for the frickin' micro in the bushes") for 3.25 "trying to read the Palm and signing the log" glasses. Often times I just pop the 3.25s over the 1.25s for signing and say the heck with it. Yeah, I no doubt look like a dork, but I can read. Gone are the days when I could read a pocket book in little or no light -- when my mother would come by and ask me how I could see with no light on. Now I ask my kids the same thing... <sigh>

Exactly!

Oh, but you can't do that! If you suggest such a thing, like I did above a little ways where it might make sense for nanos, someone out of the blue pops up and calls the nano-cache something it isn't and kills the thoughtfull discussion.

I'm of the opinion that an option for micros, as an alternative to a log book that is too small (think about those little magnetic nano flasher dealies), a code would be nice to allow the cache to be logged. Yes, there are dishonest people with no integrity who will share and use shared codes, but then they have to live with themselves. So, requirement no, option yes. Ken

You ask a question, don't like the answer, then slam the person nice enough to give you the answer to your question? Sheesh.Not if the poster had remained on topic, like a moderator should. I notice in many different threads how the moderators jump right on it if someone posts off topic of the thread. As such, one expects these moderators to set an example and not jump into the very same thing they admonish others for doing. Stick to the OPs original topic of virtuals. Don't continue to introduce information from another website and try to pass it off as being on topic when it isn't. I asked the question as semi-serious. Groundspeak stands to make NO money selling things that can be used for virtuals, so I wondered if that was why "they" are so against them. ...First, let me say that I think it is a little too hard to believe your hypothesis that the only reason that virts went away is because they don't sell stickers and logs for them. That being said, you should check out the Groundspeak store. Many things could still be sold even if there were nothing but virts. <multiple links snipped> Whoa, dude. I never hypothesized that the ONLY reason virts went away is because of the lack of profit to be made in supporting them. (Critical reading skills, man. Or is it falacy inducing skills?) I merely suggested that there could be a possibility that ONE of the reasons might be profit motivated. And yes, I know that there are many other things that Groundspeak sells. I pointed out specific items that are useless with virts. And anyway, I suggested it in the form of a question, again, as ONE of the possibilities. Markwell... I know, I know, virtuals aren't coming back no matter how much anybody wants them to. <sigh> Some people's sacred calves, huh?

You ask a question, don't like the answer, then slam the person nice enough to give you the answer to your question? Sheesh. Not if the poster had remained on topic, like a moderator should. I notice in many different threads how the moderators jump right on it if someone posts off topic of the thread. As such, one expects these moderators to set an example and not jump into the very same thing they admonish others for doing. Stick to the OPs original topic of virtuals. Don't continue to introduce information from another website and try to pass it off as being on topic when it isn't. I asked the question as semi-serious. Groundspeak stands to make NO money selling things that can be used for virtuals, so I wondered if that was why "they" are so against them. Don't join the "pack" mentality as another moderator trying to come to the defense of a moderator who hasn't followed the very rules they are charged with enforcing.

Shouldn't you be sticking to the topic of virtuals and not hawking Waymarking stuff for the company?

We recently adopted some virtual caches in our "team" account to "keep grandfather alive", so to speak. I encourage others to do the same if you learn of a local cache owner who is considering archiving a virtual. Let's keep the current ones alive, at least, so those who think they would enjoy trying them can do just that. Hey, you don't suppose one of the reasons the virtual has gone away is because Groundspeak can't sell any write in the rain logbooks, micro cache containers or geocaching game piece stickers for them, do you?

My finger stuttered.

OK, here's the real deal. I've not gone caching anywhere I need to be packin' for bear. I usually only bring the Tungsten T2 and my Garmin eMap. Unless I'm deep in the forest, here in California I'm not going to be packin' much of anything.

OK, let's see here. At top is a HP Pavillion ZV6000. Left to right is Palm Tungsten T2 PDA, Garmin eMap (yeah, it's old school), flashlight, Buck Folding Hunter (yeah, it's old school), Smith & Wesson Model 19-4 .357 mag with pachmyers (wheelgun, yeah, it's old school), Ortgies .25 for backup (yeah, it's puny but it fits the pocket well), speed loaders with Winchester 125gr. hollowpoints, cell phone, and Kenwood TH-F6A triband HT (144, 220, 440).

I hope so! As for the increase in sunspots and such, I can't wait! Of course, it may just mean that I spend more time on the ham radio than geocaching... Ken

Wow. Not only am I sick of LPCs, I'm sick of reading about them, too. Now where is that rascally topic ignore button?

Yeah, I'm in agreement with most everybody else on this one. My very first find was a LPC. I thought "Whoa, cool! Those things lift up?!" Then, after another one or two, the uniqueness wore off. Boring. Not something I'd go out of my way for. Ken

OK, this is my last post on this topic. I'll keep it simple so there is no need to search back through the posts. ScottJ came up with the slogan "The sport where You are the search engine." This slogan is prominantly displayed on the geocaching.com home page. ScottJ also accidentaly let his paying membership expire and was originally told that he probably couldn't retain his "Charger Member" status even though renewed is subscription. As a small "thank you" for the continued use of the slogan ScottJ authored, I think it would be a tremendous gesture on the part of geocaching.com to give ScottJ free premium membershing and retain his "Charter Member" status with no need to ever renew on his own. Now ScottJ seems to be a very humble kind of guy and would never ask for something like this on his own behalf. He's happy to just have his "Charter Member" status restored. Being so humble, he probably feels honored to simply have his slogan displayed by the geocaching.com website. Folks, slogans demand many thousands of dollars when they are sold to a big company by an advertising agency, not that ScottJ would every ask for that. It was nice that ScottJ was able to retain his "Charter Member" status, but what is that really? It's almost no effort put out on the part of any PTB. It's simply a few keystrokes. And we were to think that the company is just bending over backwards to let him retain that small bit! Keystone noted to me that ScottJ had his "Charter Member" status reinstated and I took his advice and toned it down a little. That was good advice, since ScottJ did get what he asked for. But I was incensed that CO Admin had the audacity to go complaining that more "thank you's" didn't come pouring in because someone had the generosity to tickle a few computer keys. Therefore, I decided that I'd reserve my "thank you" until TPTB really gave ScottJ something that deserved a "thank you." I'll say "thank you" when ScottJ has free premium member and Charter Member status for the duration. Take care now. Ken

They got what they asked for or am I missing something? What he asked for and what he deserves are two different things. I'll leave it at that.

I'll reserve my "thank you" for when ScottJ is really done right.

I think that's just the standard MS webserver error. Try it again or a few more times.

OK.. dialing down. But... It a little appreciation ought to be shown the guy and he, alone, should get it for free. Ken

I hear ya, man. You know, you should be cut some slack, especially if they continue to use the slogan that you made up. Heck, you should be given free life membership for that! I remember getting the notification about becoming a charter member but didn't figure it made that much difference. I only recently became a paying member because I wanted to take advantage of the PQs and quit manually inputting coordinates. At least you can rest assured that you're identified as one of the people from the early days by your "Joined" field next to your posts. Group: Premium Members Posts: 251 Joined: 22-December 00 From: Norcross, GA But seriously, if this place had any class whatsoever, they'd make it up to you by giving you free charter membership for life for coming up with the excellent slogan they continue to use. Ken

Jeeze, is it any wonder Jeremy would want to remove the watch count feature?! He wouldn't be bombarded, ad nauseum, by the same old tired posts!

We I guess that answers why you can't cut your own. Unless you have a bunch of write in the rain sheets of paper lying around. Oh, puhlease! Buy a few sheets of the special paper and use a pair of scissors! You could even go into business yourself with a small investment, if you could find people stupid enough to buy from you.