Logscaler and Red
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Just a fast glance at their website and I found 6 letterboxes that are hidden in several State parks and Crater lake, all in locations we are NOT allowed to place caches per request of the Park Rangers.
I wonder if they asked first before placing the letterboxes.
logscaler.
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niskibum, I think your "packing"
the right equipment for any trail you wanna walk on, be it in or out of town. And from what a cousin of mine tells me, in Alaska all you need is a hiking "partner" and a .22. At the first sign of trouble, use the .22 to shoot them in the knee
and they can't out run you! 
I have been thinking about getting a cattle prod and making a walking stick out of it. That way, you just have to reach out and "touch" someone and it's all over but the screaming. And I can walk away from that.
logscaler.
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But on the otherhand, with the way the courts seem to be more on the side of the bad guys, you just might get jugged for using "excessive" force if you used bear spray instead of badguy spray.
But the best defense is being aware of your surroundings, be that in town or in the puckerbrush, and "pack" accordingly.
logscaler.
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Wow. Makes me want to get those flatproof tires for my bike. Something more to chew on. Other then me.
And TotemLake, Why not on a person? After all if they are willing to use whatever force is needed to subdue me, I will use whatever it takes to not be a victim.
And in the words of my 5 year old Grandson - "He started it."
Glad to see in this case, everything turned out right.
logscaler.
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I would just like to note that Rooster has now collected over 1500 caches and leads all active cachers based in Oregon.
I guess it helps to be a social security bum after all.
logscaler.
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I took a Toyota Corrola right to the Chandler Butte cache.
As close as the road would take me anyway. As I remember it, somewhere in the range of 100 feet or there abouts.
logscaler.
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Great place to stop on a cache hunt from one drainage to the other side. IE, from the Sweethome side up and over to the Blue River side and back around. Lots of caches. Just remember that the last 1.5 miles or there about could be kinda rough on light weight 4x4 wanna be's.
logscaler.
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But those are right up front with that information. Yes, I have found both of them and they live up to the names and style. I have no problem with these.
Oh, and that Worlds Worst Cache? It isn't. Not by a long ways. The cache contents are supposed to suck - and they did when we where there - but the location is alright and the area is nice. Beats the lamp post at WalMart anyday.
Or the lame micros under the cattle guard, in the boreholes of street signs, in the guardrail......
As noted in a couple other postings and even threads, misleading coordinates are the main thing that will spoil me on a cache. And if you really want smoke, just leave the bad numbers on the cache page after a dozen people have given better numbers.
logscaler (has left the building.)
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Just to throw a little more info into the mix.
Whenever I do end up having a problem with a cache. I will send the cache owner a private e-mail detailing what the problem was. Yes, I may smoke um a touch on the cache page but the follow up or preceding e-mail explains the why's and what for's.
As for the different levels of caching, Red and I have found a box full in several different states and it is always nice to see new methods and styles. But, even with that said, I still have a problem with dozens of micros hidden in lamp post in the same town. Yes, the cache hidder thinks it is a cool thing to do and yes they might just be starting and yes they might be out with the kids and yes they might be wanting to make some easy caches for friends to start with but enough is enough already. Think of something different and with your own little twist. It might just be the next stash fad.
And as for the comment about sex after a find. That would make Cache Machines a lot more interesting. "Its my turn to find one" would be heard at the start of the event. "NO, NO, You can't make me find anymore." later in the day. But I would sure bet that no 70 or 80 cache would be found in a day either!
Red and I talked it over today while we where out and about and we decided that we would try and look for something positive to be gained from the hunt. And that the positive need not be from the cache or it's location but from the whole experince and the shared time together.
It's late and I am a rambling.
later, logscaler.
(PS; Yes, some caches really do suck. We call it the "WHY?" cache style)
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DBL - Didn't bother to look.
Or
DBL - Don't bother looking.
Works for me. Either way.
So a frowny face and DBL means one thing and a smiley face and DBL means another, right?
Thanks for the idea and new acronym.
logscaler.
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I gotta jump in here.
One big ditto to most everything posted. More then likely, we all go through someups and downs about everything in life. Myself, I just flipped the calander on the big "5 old" and wonder where things will go from here?
But as for cacheing, We also like the event caches a lot more now then before.
And I have found I look forwards to teaching a newbie how to use the gpsr and what caching is all about. Yes, I skip all those lame micros, drive by in the park, look under the choochoo (again) and take them out into the puckerbrush to show them the REAL geocaching game.
Red and I are starting to wonder why about a lot of caches - and cachers as a matter of fact but that is a different thread - and why the cache is there. I do not want to go to the local park. I do not want to go to the local bridge over the river. I do not want to go to yadayadayadayada any more. Big flipping deal. You stuck a altoids tin inside a streetlamp. Aint you special. Go away. Your bothering me.
I want those little backwater areas that mean something to someone as what the consider a "special place".
You want to show me a vista? Okay, but only if it is a place you would want to sit and watch the sun set or rise on your last day on Earth. You want to show me a waterfall? Cool. Is it in a roadside guide for the tourist? If it is, I'll pass but thanks for asking.
You want to show me a pass on a mountain trail where you can set and watch Elk wallow at first light? I'll buy gas and we can take my rig. You want to sit my butt on a rock outcropping where Eagles fly below my feet dangling 1500 feet in the air? Lead on.
You want to know where there are a bunch of Balancing Rocks? I can show you. You want to see where artesian rivers come from? I can show you. You want to know where the only member of the Lewis and Clark party is buried in Oregon? I can show you. You want to see a mountain of Obsidian? I can show you. You want to see a lava tube choked with ice? I can show you.
"You GOTTA go see..." should be a key phrase.
I send you an open offer travisl, eraseek, criminal, CurmudgeonlyGal, and anyone else bored to tears. Come on down to the campout - GCJKPT- on August 20,21,22 on Paulina Peak. I will take you on a tour of some local areas you just might enjoy. And if you can’t make it then, send me an e-mail when your going to be in town and I will work something up.
Here is a thread about the campout:
http://www.oregongeocaching.org/phpBB2/vie...php?p=1266#1266
And the event is : http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...fa-d8c5c76cf2f0
Sorry about taking up all your space and time.
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logscaler.
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Yes, we log DNF's if they happen.
And why not?
You don't loose any birthdays.
No one hunts you down and shoots your dog.
No one paints a big red "X" on your door.
But, You just might have to wear a dunce cap at the next event cache.
And buy the first round.
DNF's are part of the history of how your skills have evolved. Yes, you now think like a cache hider when it comes to finding those pesky micros.
Before you even start physically looking for a cache, How many of you stand back and say something along the line of : "Now, where would I have placed that cache at?"
When your approaching the area of a cache, do you just glance at the gpsr to keep on line while your checking out everything in the area for something out of place?
We all have had, or will have, that "ONE" cache that drives us crazy. We log a DNF. The next three people, "Easy find, right where it is supposed to be." The same day you could not find it. Hummm, now there is a good joke to pull on someone.
Yes, the DNF's also alert others and the cache owner there MIGHT be problems. And I agree with coyotered, sometimes I will go look for those DNF caches just to see if I can find it where others have missed out.
Man, standing outside for 10 hours in 100 plus heat kinda makes me ramble. Sorry.
logscaler.
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I been out in the hot sun all day so I will drop all cation to the winds, so to speak.
The person starting the thread says flat out the cache will only be done with the aid of a boat. Now, with that little of information, people are starting to hassle over ratings? Why? Wouldn't a little more information be in order?
Heck, his boat rating might be a nice belt buckle deep walk through some lily pond where you where supposed to have rented a boat. Or it could require a ocean going tug to buck the bar over the Columbia. Fill in the gaps with whatever you want.
Until all the information about this cache is to be had, mellow out guys. Sheesh.
Now as for what I consider as a 5 in water born craft. Skill required to complete the task safely. As Mr. Snat states, people who have not been into a canoe or rowboat are funny to watch. Until they flip over. All humor goes right out the window then, class five rapids involved or not. People crawling out of a pond covered in duck crap have no sense of humor at all.
But on the other side of the coin, if the cache page states you will need a boat, then the rating should depend on what type of water craft is needed as well as the skills needed to handle said craft.
If you are just going to the local millpond and renting a paddle boat to chase ducks around with, why rate it a 5? If you can peddle - steer a bike you can do the peddle boat thing. Need a sea worthy craft? Bump it up.
Myself, I am starting to lean towards hitting a higher rating then I used to apply to my caches. I have found out there are a lot of people who don't hit things in the same manner as I do or will attempt to do.
The above posting was created after 12 hours of standing in 90 - 100 degree heat. Please ignore anything that offends you. Or not. Just my opinion. And it can be changed depending on the amount of information supplied in the future.
logscaler.
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Wow, I have been here that long?
It looks like I need to get a life!
Still kicking around. Just on the quite side for a while.
logscaler.
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Yea ever been out as a member of a wild lands fire crew ?
Nothing but acres and acres of burnt off ground cover?
Black as far as you can go? Nothing to hide behind?
And then Mother Nature makes a request you can not get avoid?
One bit of advice.
Do not holler " Don't Watch". You will be, just because.
And I could tell you some stories about, nah, never mind, lets keep it "clean" shall we say?
We have come across people making "pit" stops alot. Just keep on going because it is like yawning. Once someone starts, everyone will get caught up in the action.
logscaler
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Ha!
You guys and gals just ain't a thinking right about this style of cache. I have come up with an idea for using an old outhouse that will work. I just have to find the right style of building and the right location. I have the cache built already and carry it with me as I travel. Just waiting to get it placed.
And we have already done one cache in a public restroom in Boise. Nice clean place and the hide was good as well. Unisex room so everyone has equal access to the cache. City park and everything was nice and clean as well.
logscaler.
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Well, watching you puke into his ****** sounds like fun but I am pretty sure Red and I will both be working that weekend and we will just have to miss the "event".
But I am sure someone will be sure and post the information here afterwards.
Have fun and you can have my share of the beer.
logscaler.
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For myself, I try and judge the people who will for the most part be looking for the cache.
For the locals I will try my best to at least get some very upset e-mails from them.
As for other caches, I try and locate them in areas of interest, be it a little known historical site or a location for a view.
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Ah come on.
You guys are all making this up, Right?
This is way to funny to be true.
Am I on Candid Camera right now?
Laughing my butt off over this thread.
Whats the next chapter about?
I know. "Power cachers and their trails!"
Thanks for the giggles.
And if by some strange stroke of bad luck this is all for real, some ones mommy needs to take their computer away from them.
logscaler.
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Cool.
I am a "Power Cacher" without even knowing it.
I found all five caches in about a 1,000 square mile area!
And it only took me 21 hours and 400 miles to do it!
Besides, power cache trails are like the rest of the game. Just a fad. And won't last long. More then likely it will all go away in a couple years.
And for whatever reason, we all go through stages as we play the game.
How many of you have "power cached" one weekend/month and then only logged a couple caches for an extended period of time? I have. Several times.
And it does look like a cool way to get people out and around the whole trail. I have a multi stage cache that is about 15 miles front to back, 11 waypoints but only good for one find. I guess I could put a cache at each waypoint and make it a total of 12 caches instead. Nah, I like to make you work for it.
logscaler.
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Red Neck Weenie of the West Coast Weenies - a gang from the Bend Oregon area - fought his way through to number 600 today.
Congrats guys. And that cache for number 600 was a real bear to get also.
logscaler.
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Ditto from us as well.
Isn't it kinda strange that if you play nice how things come your way?
Work within the guidlines and no troubles. If you have a question about an idea, just send an e-mail to your local approver about it FIRST before building a cache in the gray area. Explain how it works, where it is at and go from there. A tweak here and a twist there and you have your cache.
Thanks Team Misguided for the response time and being willing to do the job.
logscaler and Red.
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Me: Wanna go caching tomorrow?
Red: Where?
Me: (Names places several hours away and several hundred miles round trip.)
Red: We will have to get up early. (Hah. She gets up to go to work at 2:30 AM already. Guess what time she wants to get up and go?)
Me: Naw, I changed my mind. Lets go here. (only an hour and 45 miles away. And I get to sleep in until 8:00 AM.)
The next day, after getting up at 5:00 AM anyway -There is something about that sharp elbow to the kidneys that will wake you up every time - we are miles and mile away from where we started for because I just happened to mention a cache that has only been hit once in the last year.
Me: It will be a hike because the snow will more then likely have the road blocked still. And we will be above 7000 feet where it's going to be real cold. It will be about 2 hours one way into it plus a hike.
Red: So? I have my hoody sweatshirt. Where will we be turning at? Oh, look a cute little fawn with it's mamma. Slow down so we can look for more.
Anyway, After I don't know how many miles, way to many hours - I got to bed at MIDNIGHT - we had found one FTF, a couple caches with only one or two finds in the last year or so and 7 caches on the day.
The next time I think I will keep my mouth shut and just tell her I am going to the bar so she will let me cache at my own pace.
logscaler.
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Ditto with the straight answer to the local law.
We have enjoyed explaining "just what the he!! are you doing?" several times now.
After explaining - and even showing them - where the cache is, what is inside the cache container, how the game is played we have never had a problem. Some times we get strange looks and shrugs of the shoulder, as in: Whatever.
Most of the time they take a sheet of information and or write down the web address. I have no idea if any have joined in yet but at least I have not had to explain myself to their boss yet.
logscaler.
the right equipment for any trail you wanna walk on, be it in or out of town. 
and they can't out run you! 
Bear Attack
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Yea, a bangstick would work for stopping them.
But nothing makes you dance and twitch like a cattle prod! After all, if you have to go through all the effort to make them stopp being bad, you might as well get some entertainment out of it.
It would look kinda like "Thriller" me thinks.
logscaler.