Too Tall John

Here in New England we have an odd lot store called Ocean State Job Lot. They recently have been carrying a lock-n-lock knockoff for a really good price.The smallest size, which is about the size it sounds like you want, (approx. 2x4x6) is selling for 90 cts. You might not have the store nearby, but in my experience, there are other stores that will likely have the exact same thing. Keep your eyes peeled.

The caches I've placed all have well defined parking. 3 of them because the campground they're located at doesn't want cars parked in random spots. That said, I've had some caches that I've really enjoyed driving around looking for parking, and others where it is just plain irritating. I was going to say the same thing DocDitto, fine point.Did anyone else find it ironic that DocDitto got dittoed? Just me? Oh...

I'd do it. The sign says "No Swimming" not "No Trespassing." It seems to me that if they wanted to stop both swimmers & pedestrians the sign would just say "No Trespassing" as that would include swimming.

Huh? A lot more interesting than saying:

they were talking in code. as a hint, what you said in your last post was "uni," But they weRe talkIng aBout how thEy "grease The wHeEls." (both Mushtang and totem clan) daNg... is my shift key brOken?

I think your find a newbie one was on the right track. Scavenger hunts where you're looking for people gets a lot more interaction, they're great icebreakers!

How about the signature of a cacher who... ...has more than 1000 finds ...is part of a team ...has found a cache by you (you meaning the cacher) or placed a cache you found ...etc, etc, etc

Actually, sbell, you'll be proud to know that your joke was not lost on me... ...however, it is comments like these that tear my at heart. I have some very dear friends and family who love (or in the case of dear old grampa, loved) anchovies. I, myself, think they are gross (in fact many were not suprised to hear grampa choked to death on the beastly things) but I hold those who not only tolerate but embrace these stinky fish in very high esteem. <-- Added, just in case.

How about if we just start making sweeping generalizations about any demographic group? What if he said "Unless you are a (Hispanic, Asian, African American, Swede, woman, man, person who likes anchovies, whatever you want to insert into this spot) you shouldn't need this creed." It is just plain insulting and helps to perpetuate a stereotype. Not the kind of thing I'm ready to relax about.

How does it disregard these people? Can you please elaborate? I guess I honestly wouldn't have thought that these tidbits of common sense (many of which are guidelines) would infringe on anybody.... Not that I agree with JohnX (despite the good name), but I think you stopped reading too soon, TG. The part you are missing is in bold below: That was the real point he was trying to make, I think. The first part was really poorly worded, and the way I read it was "Unless they are mentally incapacitated..." "Disregarding" was the wrong word to use, an attempt to use a big(ger) word that failed. Frankly, I work on a semi-regular basis with people who are developmentally disabled and/or have suffered a brain injury. I can't think of a single one of them that wouldn't realize if they were doing something that would endanger others, but I see people with no disability at all put others in danger all the time. I think JohnX is selling these folks short. Edited to add: What he said, but I'm acting a little more ticked off about what JohnX said.

I just have to say... Camo Ammo Cans! It's fun to say, say it 5 times fast, it kinda just flows off the tongue. If ya like these, have you looked at the Cool Cache Containers thread yet? I know, not as fun to say, but still, it's like a bajillion pages long!

For me, this all boils down to a definition of adequate. For me, I think of "adequate" this way: I drive a boat for work occasionally. I'll have 20 people on the boat with me at a time. I'm responsible to be sure that there are PFDs (life jackets) on the boat for each & that anyone under a certain age is wearing a PFD. I have never (knock on wood) been in a situation where anyone had to rely on a PFD for more than a pillow. But, if one day I were out on the lake with a full boat and the thing started to sink & I only had 10 PFDs on the boat, would the other 10 people think I had an adequate number of jackets on board? Adequate=enough Enough what? Enough of whatever is needed to keep you out of trouble if you need it. Caches with adequate permission will still attract LEOs and over-protective citizens, even the occasional bomb squad. Adequate permission should, however, generally keep the district attorney from prosecuting you & your fellow geocachers. For those who would like to come up with the exceptions to the rule, please note that I said should and generally. Public lands that don't disallow geocaching? Implied is probably adequate permission. Private property? Not getting explicit permission is begging for someone to get charged with trespassing. Kinda like taking 20 people on the lake with 10 PFDs.

Maybe I am a wuss, but I avoid confrontation and try to placate folks. I have been asked to leave and take the cache with me several times. I did so, and got the cache back to the owner. If he in fact has permission, great, he can put it back. FWIW, None of the five or six I have carried off when asked to was ever replaced. Perhaps a rewording rather than a strike-through would be called for? "If asked by a person with the authority to do so, I will remove a cache" maybe? Seems like it'd be a rare enough occurrence that to eliminate the line's throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Well put from someone who has a picture of a person on fire in their avatar. I'd heard hot pants were going out of style... If they were ever in...

Thanks for pointing it out for me. I might have missed it. Edited to add: In case you missed it, there's a up there for ya!

It is my position that I asked in the other thread for someone to say if they had explicit permission from Wal-Mart to place a LPC on their property. You attributed feelings and opinions not expressed by me to the person who asked that question (me). So I guess what I was complaining about was your misstatement of facts, although now I'd like to complain about your stated willingness to complain about statements allegedly made without knowing what was actually said:

So, if you don't know who said what in the other thread, how can you say: ?

Just curious, Criminal, why you'd eliminate the line you did. The rest you edited out I can see as repetitive and/or as you put it "DUH"

As someone who has posed the question about explicit permission from a Wal-Mart, I wonder if sbell111 is talking about me. If he is, I'd like to point out that I'm not a hater, or even a disliker of Wal-Mart LPCs. I am a hater of actions that can harm something I enjoy. In my view, caches placed without permission on private property will (and already have) hurt geocaching. The only declaration I made was that by my understanding of Wal-Mart policy (which I get from formerly being a manager at Wal-Mart) nobody would be able to get said permission. In fact, when someone went to a Wal-Mart manager to get permission, they were told exactly what I predicted. Trying to tell others what someone who disagrees with you thinks (ie that I dislike LPCs) or over-exaggerating their stated opinions of something (saying it was "declared" that nobody got permission) seems like some pretty broad brush strokes to me, not to mention not very responsible. (Edited to fix quotes, my grammar & add this:) My first Wal-Mart LPC. I loved it. I thought it was such a cool idea. I checked the cache page for it the other week to find it's archived. I emailed the owner to find out why. Lack of permission...

I now have an image of sbell111 and Mushtang sitting at their computers, tapping their watches, waiting for someone to send back a response to their last post. C'mon guys, who cares if it took 4 1/2 hours, six hours, one day, or a week for them to respond? Some people don't have jobs lives that allow them to be attached to a computer all the time. Oh, and don't expect an answer back from me on this one too quickly. I have work to do, and if I get done with that, the sun is out, it is a beautiful spring day. I'll be in the woods, geocaching.

I think the extra money spent on a jacket with gore-tex or the equivalent is well worth it. I've got a lightweight raincoat I picked up for $15. It keeps the rain out, but it doesn't breathe at all. I end up almost as wet from sweat in that jacket as I would if I just went out without it. I more recently got a gore-tex rain coat, the full length deal, it seals the water out real nice. It also breathes really well, so I actually stay dry wearing it. Out in the woods, staying dry can be more of a safety issue than a comfort issue. I think the extra money spent is well worth it. My Raincoat. Oh, and a wide brimmed felt hat. Great for all weather! My Hat.

i recently was at a wallmart and talkin with the sports manager about geocaching which he never heard of and himself owns a gps and uses it when he goes fishin , seemed interested and i gave him the web site 2 check out geocaching ,so im beginning 2 think its a matter time and education b4 and with people like u asking and the manufacture backing it maybe orginizing events 4 the sport 2 b more popular and widly accepted in the publics eye Nice points! I agree completely (see my past post below.) I especially like the idea of getting the vendors involved.

I think The White Urkel said it best:

Having worked for Wal-Mart for 10 years, I'd like to throw my 2 cents in. I can see where Wal-Mart gets the reputation of being the "evil giant" when all you hear about is how the little Mom 'n' Pop store down the road is getting killed. However, places like Wal-Mart actually help our economy more than it hurts it; someone above mentioned the fact that WM helps keep inflation down. Also, Renegade Knight makes an excellent point, that I'd like to stress: as far as huge corporations go, Wal-Mart does an excellent job of trying to do the right thing. I suspect that the pricing differences described in the OP came from one of a couple possible things. First, someone made a mistake. Whether it was the Home Office sending the wrong price points to the store or it was the guy in sporting goods putting the wrong label on the wrong items, mistakes happen. When people point them out to the store, they are typically very good at correcting them. After all, having a mistake like that is really, really bad for business. It takes something like 20 great shopping experiences to make up for one lousy one. After all, if Jedi Cacher (the OP) had gone into the store and found the items he was shopping for at the prices he expected, we wouldn't be talking about it right now. Instead, he found pricing errors and came in here and got lots of people all riled up. Bad for business. If nothing else, the folks at the Home Office are very aware of what is bad for business and try to avoid those things at all cost. The only reason I bring up the second thing is so that people are aware of it. I want to say right up front that I don't think this is the case in this situation, I've seen other posts from Jedi Cacher & I don't think this is really his agenda at all, but here it is: There are some out there who have made it their life's work to give Wal-Mart a bad name, and pop up on forums telling stories that just plain aren't true. I've seen people posting stories in forums about how "Wal-Mart stole my baby!" Well, nothing ever that extreme, but you get the idea. Someone asks the OP for some small detail, and suddenly, their story's unraveling like... well, like a sweater you bought at Wal-Mart (yes, their clothes in general are cheap!). Even though I don't work for them anymore, I get quite ticked off when I see such posts, because some who read them will believe because they don't know any better. Then it gets passed on like it is the gospel truth, which it isn't. Oh, something I should clear up: Someone mentioned about how each Wal-Mart prices items according to how other local stores are pricing those items. This is true. As a manager, I had to go "Comp Shopping" every couple weeks. If we were getting beat on something, we'd adjust our prices to be lower. K-Mart does the same thing. It was kinda a fun little competition between the stores, just tweaking back and forth at each other. The one thing that isn't (or wasn't when I was there) true is that "Comp Shopping" could result in a price going UP. It was expressly against the rules, in fact the handy little computer utility that you used to adjust the prices would not allow you to raise the price. Only the grand poo-pooh's at the Home Office could do that.

I'll agree with this to a point. I remember seeing a website where a professional photographer was trying to get people interested in photography. To make his point about not needing to make a big investment in order to get into the hobby, he had an entire section on his site of incredible (I mean some really drop dead gorgeous) pictures that he took using a disposable camera. A lot of pictures that might appeal to you visually have nothing to do with the equipment being used, but more to do with the nut behind the eyepiece. On the other hand, anyone with the knowledge to take a great shot probably did some research into the camera that they bought, so drawing on that knowledge base is what will be most useful. All that being said, I'm going to go back to the disposable camera. I used to manage a photo lab. When someone would come in and ask for the cheapest disposable camera we had, I'd toss 'em a disposable. Today's photo developers have the ability to put all your pictures from a roll of film into digital format. Thus, aside from the fact that you can't see the pics or immediately upload them onto your computer, any camera can be a digital camera. You also don't have to worry about dropping it in the streams you may have to cross. Oh, and ditto to Hobo2. I'm on my 2nd Canon "A" series camera (the first was stolen). I love it. (Nice shot, btw)

Sonys are pretty tough and can take a beating. I like the color quality of Canon and Fuji the best. Don't get something too small, you'll cover the flash or the lens or something with a finger trying to grasp ahold if it is too small. Be sure you're comfortable holding it. You can get a decent camera pretty cheap at the online auctions, which might be a good way to go for a camera you're taking off into the bushes with. Oh! Get something that takes a common battery size. I like knowing that if my GPSr batts die I can steal the camera ones 'til I get home if I've forgotten to pack extras. Not to mention if you get a camera that takes a special battery, you'll spend a lot more on replacements. Get something with at least a 4x OPTICAL zoom. All digital zoom does is crop the picture you take, giving you a grainier picture. Get a case that doesn't have a zipper. You'll scratch the heck out of the LCD display taking the camera out of the bag if there's a zipper involved.