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Why not do the right thing and contact the cache owner if you have any concerns and to find out more information. Too many times I have seen caches wrongly archived. Maybe the cache owner works there.

Just a few of the cards I made for a game I worked on many years ago.

I've ordered a set of plates too. I think it's a great project that any Ontario Geocacher would be proud of to use on their car. I bet even some non-Ontario cachers would love to have a set of plates with the GC logo on them. Thanks for creating and your continued effort on this project, RCA.

Based on this thread, here is a list I put together of the longest running annual events (9 years+). If I missed anything or made a mistake, let me know. 12 Years -- Chicago/GONIL (GCA12[2001] - GC2Z86B[2011]) 11 Years -- GHAGAFAP (GC8DFC [2002] - GC34EV6[2012]) – Canada’s Longest -- Letchworth Fall Gathering (GC2QRCR[2011]) 10 Years -- Texas Challenge (GC33CNK[2012]) -- GeoWoodstock (GCG03E[2003] - GC2X6ZV[2012]) -- Geocaching Hampton Roads (GC3DART[2012]) 9 Years -- Potter’s Pond (GCJQJP[2004] - GC2NX0G[2011]) – Was there events held for this in 2001? 2002? 2003?

I see that GeoWoodstock is coming up on it's 10th year. I am just wondering what other annual events around the world have gone on for 10 years or more?

Quick one for me at 8pm without a flashlight (oops), since there really only was one too choose from. But I already had Feb 29th filled in during a previous year so it didn't matter much. But glad I got out.

To get this thread back on topic, I went out for 3 hrs today finding this 12 cache power trail called Esquesing me. It's in the Milton area and the first one of the series is http://coord.info/GC3BCNF. I think this fits the original posters request perfectly. 11 of the 12 are large enough to hold trade items, most of which are filled with the usual dollar store trade items along with some interesting things too. There is 1 nano and the rest range from small, regular and even 2 fairly large containers. Most are a variety of lock and lock containers. It's about 5km round trip and goes along side quarry land. The first 6 caches are along a closed road and the next 6 are along a former section (20 years ago) of the Bruce Trail. 11 of the 12 caches are very easy finds too. Not much scenery though as there is forest/fields on the one side (which you can no longer explore) and quarry on the other, but we really enjoyed it today.

The day was perfect weather wise. No one could have asked for better conditions. I think we can all agree on that. The CC8 group was created to do the challenge of doing it all in one day. Some people lost sight of that and things turned negative pretty quickly and hypocritical too especially from one specific person (you and I can discuss it privately if you are curious who I am referring to). It was clear from speaking with others that the person didn't want us to do it. Some people were making suggestions on how to succeed (which was the purpose of the creating the group so we could plan it), while others were basically saying NO. Believe me, I am not the only one who thought things were moving towards the ridiculous. As you know, I got tired of the crap and totally lost interest in going. Then I got many offers to still go, but I was hesitant until Goju called me up one day to convince me to go still and we started planning it privately for 4 of us (me, Goju, JeffTrex and MrPirateCat) to go the week before (Jan 14th). We were all ready to go, but as the day approached the forcast called for -18C at night with even colder windchill. I slept on it and then friday morning I emailed the others and backed out and the others did as well. That was the smartest decision we made. We were smart enough not to put ourselves in unnecessary danger. We then planned to go on event week on the 21st and that is what we did. We lost Jeff but gained micd and bggy to our group. It all a matter of knowing what I am capable of, and I knew without a doubt I could do it. I also had great confidence in the people I was with. Again if something like the forcast indicate that we may not have been able to do it, then we would have again picked another day. We also seriously contemplated crossing the ice/lake from the hunt camp to the event, as the people in the hunt camp said it was possible, but the yahoos that came later said no...so we decided to go on the side of caution. I will say it, I found a lot of what was being said pretty insulting in the CC8 group. I know some people can and those who can't. I would never tell anyone that they can't. I knew I could do it. I know you and Chrismouse could probably have done it and I thought when we bumped into you that you were going to do the whole thing, as you guys seemed full of energy. In the end I am glad I did it and those who I did it with. There was never a sense of trouble while we were on the trail.

The cache is the same, whether the power trail is there or not. If the cache truly is that great it would still get the great logs. As geocaching grows and more caches get placed it is only natural that there will be less caches that are alone in a remote location. Now that the power trail is there, it is much more likely that people will go to find that cache and isn't that the point, for people to have their caches found? What's the point of placing a cache if people aren't going to find it. As I have said many time, I never had an interest in finding Bushwacker and now that the power trail is there, it gave me that push to finally get Bushwacker, with convincing from my fellow cachers. However my interest for going was more for doing the power trail and challenge of doing it all than it was to find Bushwacker which I just see as a long walk in the woods to a regular cache...I can find walk in the woods caches much closer to home without having to drive 300km and the added expense. And for what it's worth, my log on Bushwacker is not a canned copy/paste log and it won't be. I haven't logged Team Goju's caches yet, but those logs will be different than what I posted on Bushwacker. I chose to post my detailed log of the entire experience on the event cache page. The goal of the power trail was to get more people out to Bushwacker and I think it succeeded with great success. Just look how many people have been in there in January already.

I was there too with Micd, bggy, MrPirateCat and Team Goju and did the entire trail. I had an awesome time, adventure, fun and challenge. I am glad I was convinced and encouraged to go. If the power trail was not there, I would not have gone. The first 6+ hours we did in the dark so what we saw was limited, with the rest during the day in just over 17 hrs, so on the way out we saw what we didn’t see on the way in. Scenery that stood out as memorable for me was tornado alley with the view to the large hill on the other side, the bridge a few km in, the hunt camps, the dam and lake, the cache on the island, the beaver dam to bushwacker, the long beaver dam to almost bushwacked. The many large and interesting rock formations, a couple of which I gave a closer look with a sense of curiosity, the bicycle. However it was just a long walk in the woods. What made this for me, was not the caches or location, but the people I was with sharing in the challenge of doing it all. The only bad thing that I did not like about the whole experience was all of the negativity and nay sayers that was going on leading up to the day. It was bordering on the ridiculous as many others agreed with. Many people said this was not possible, or that it was dangerous, etc. People were clearly missing the whole point of this. I knew what I was capable of and knew that this would be no problem for me. I realized that all the people that said it wasn’t possible are those that could not do a 35-40km hike, but I know I can and have many times. Most people I know can’t hike that distance and that is fine, but there’s no reason to bring others down. I also had confidence in my friends that were with me. And most importantly, I never had a doubt in my mind that I couldn't do it...having a positive attitude and determination is everything in order to be successful. If I had any doubts of the possibility of not doing it, I never would have attempted it. I went 25km all alone to the highest mountain in Newfoundland and I was able to do it since I knew I could and this was one of the best experiences I ever had in my life. I assume that was directed to me. My log on Bushwacker was as follows This is exactly what I felt that cache deserved as there is absolutely nothing special about this one to make it stand out compared to the other ones. If this one deserves more of a log or a favourite point then the 2 caches past Bushwacker would deserve it even more. Bushwacker is a walk in the woods for a PB jar (with a hole in it) that hasn’t received the maintenance it needed since it was first mentioned. It is not even a 5/5. If anything a 1/4…we saw it from 20m away as we were approaching. But rating are subjective as is quality. But there are people who are happy to have found that one, including the cachers I was with and I respect that. I’ve done a lot of thinking on how to define quality since these 2 threads were posted. For me I would define quality as the overall experience I have. In this case I had an extremely quality experience. It was not about the caches that we found but about the people I was with and the challenge that we took part in to do it and the satisfaction of succeeding. Whether a cache is a micro or an ammo can would make absolutely no difference. I looked more forward to finding the Team Goju caches that he placed along the trail than I did to finding Bushwacker or the other caches here. I also have to wonder about people who complain about caches. If you are not enjoying caches that you find, don’t find them. Northernpenguin enjoys the hikes so that is the type of caches he does as opposed to the drivebys. Lone R (OP) enjoys the larger containers that are maintained well so that is what she looks for when picking caches to find. All I ask is don’t put down certain types of caches because you may not enjoy them, as there are others who do. For me, I enjoy them all. I like the variety. There are not many times in my 9+ years of caching that I haven’t enjoyed. There are some days that I am caching and these days are rare, that I may not enjoy the caches or caching experience that I am having and in that case I stop and go home. Me personally, doing the same type of caches every time I go caching doesn’t sound too exciting and even boarding on the monotonous. The one thing I know for sure that I do not enjoy and that is caching alone. I enjoy caching with my wife and kids, with friends and in groups. It’s all about enjoying the day and the experience. A couple weeks ago I enjoyed going caching with my daughter and wife doing driveby caches in the rain. Last summer when we were vacationing in Newfoundland, it seemed like an unusual high # of caches were wet inside. That didn’t bother us, as we just enjoyed the experience of being able to cache in a place we have never cached in before. People that know me, know I don’t let things bother me. I am all for just enjoying things and having fun doing so. And finally, it’s not all about the numbers, but numbers ARE part of the game, whether it be the number of finds, the number of smiles that caches put on your face, the number of great people you get to know, the number of places you discover if it wasn’t for geocaching…the list goes on.

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I hate to break the news, but you'll probably be disappointed with the Lingham Lake power trail as they are all identical containers (specimen jars), hidden in similar ways and probably not big enough for most TBs. For me, Lingham Lake Power Trail is about the adventure and challenge to do them all and share the adventure with friends. If the power trail was not there, I never would consider evening hiking that trail. I wish everyone a good day that is going this weekend and I look forward to reading the logs.

Talk with the cache owners as I have done on a number of occasions and perhaps you'll get a better understanding about the London Loop caches. You've only found 6 of the 400+ London Loop caches and those seem to be the easy ones. Do the caches with friends and maybe you'll enjoy them more. Caching with others is always fun. Of your 24 finds, you haven't found one greater than a 2 difficulty. Do the L.L. Bouncy Bunny cache which is unique as are many others. 3 of the 6 caches you wrote nice hide/spot, so it sounds like you enjoyed those. For the 2 that you found that were wet you should post a Needs Maintenance log in addition to the found it log so that the owners get notified that the caches need attention. The rural roads do have wide shoulders, but obviously in the winter these would be narrow due to snow banks. For me personally, I wouldn't attempt to do these in the winter and that is why we are waiting until April when the snow is all gone. We do month group caching events, so you are more than free to join us anytime and you'll probably find it's more about being out with like minded people than about the hides. There is NO Winter Friendly attribute. There never has been. It's called Available In the Winter, so it's accurately identified. Cache is there and available to be found. So you might have to dig in snow but that's part of the game living here in Canada. If you think the London Loop caches are not for you, then don't do them and find the ones you do. What I like personally about doing a variety of caches is that I never know what to expect and I get to experience a lot of different things. You never know when that wow moment comes and it could even be on a drive by. What makes one cache higher quality over another cache?

That is correct, that the London Loop caches should only be done during the day. They also have that set as an attribute on the cache pages.

Here's the hunt at the hydro tower. Looks like a group of cachers enjoying a fun cache on a nice day. Wish I was there with them. Maybe I was as some of them look familiar...was this September 10th? Every land owner that has a cache placed near them received a letter explaining everything. There are even some land owners that will take cachers and show them where the cachers are. It's nice to see these land owners enjoy it as much as cachers do.

I will disagree about the comments made about the London Loop series. I have done 126 of the London Loop caches, once in April and then again in September. Both times it was with a decent sized group (16 people and 27 people). There was plenty of socializing going on within our vehicles and at each of the caches. I found the caches very well maintained and I know one of the cache owners and know the amount of time and effort and money and planning that went into this series. There is also a lot of creativity in many of the caches and many are challenging to retrieve or find. They are definitely not all identical and you do get a variety with this series. This was not just a quick throw down series. Many non cachers such as land managers, opp, town of London were involved too. The caches are also placed along rural roadways that have wide shoulders making it very safe to pull over and be completely off the road. I plan on going back in April with a group of friends and I am very much looking forward to this. Based on what I have experienced with the London Loop caches so far, I would say that is one of the highest quality power trails that I have done. For those that don't like the idea of hopping in and out of the car for the London Loop series, why not ride a bike as some have done or even walk it as you would walk to any other cache along a trail. It's interesting that people will criticize certain caches or types of caches, yet they haven't even tried them or gotten the full experience out of it. The key thing as with me is variety. Like I have said many times, sometimes I want to hike, sometimes I was the drivebys and sometimes something in between. It all depends on the day. As for hiking or driving to do 100 a power trail, since I like to hike and I can hike 40km in one shot easily, I would lean towards the hiking over the driving, however sometimes it is just not possible.

Have you done the London Loop yet? There is probably more variety in the London Loop than any other power trail out there. I've been looking forward to my 3rd visit coming up in April.

I agree, that it doesn't make sense to spend $5 per container when placing a power trail. There is always the odd cache along a power trail that will accommodate travel bugs. Most people don't trade anymore, so why waste putting trade items into caches along a power trail. There are thousands of other caches out there if those that are looking to trade a TB or trade items. I bought 100+ 300ml water tight containers that are all ready to be placed for a power trail. I just need to find a good trail (preferably rail trail) close to home to put it along. I do have a concern about water tight containers though in that not only does it keep water out, but it also keeps water and condensation in. I find there are just as many lock n lock and tupperware containers are are wet as there are caches in margarine containers. I really liked what was done on the Brantford rail trail power trail with putting a micro inside of a margarine or similar container. So even if water penetrates the outer container, the log usually remains dry in the inner container. I think it is pretty clear that most people do enjoy rail trails and this can be easily proven by the amount of finds on these caches compared to others. For me, each day I look for different things. There are days I look for adventure, there are days I want to do difficult caches, there are days like this past Saturday where I just want to enjoy some drivebys and then other days I go for the variety. No matter what I feel like on a particular day I know I can always find something that meets my needs.

Not sure why my BT Hike events are mentioned here as they have nothing to do with Power Trails and most definitely are not and never will be organized cache hunts, which you should know having attended all of them.

That was an excellent power trail that I really enjoyed and shared with a great group of friends last year. I see there are another 19 caches added to the east end of that trail. Our stats for that trail were: 86 caches 19.5km hiked 5hrs 38mins I think power trails are a great thing as it gives people an incentive to get out to an area that they may not have considered going to if there was just one cache there.

Last time I checked the Friday night outings of the BFL was a private group of friends, not a posted event - here, or on Facebook or anywhere else. Using your definition for average group size I will suggest the average group size is somewhere around 1.2, given that most geocachers around the world go out solo or as a couple. Isn't the weekly Friday night bfl an organized group hunt that is done through email and sometimes you invite people that are not part of the private group? An OGH does not have to be public, and I don't think there are that many that are truely public except for the 9 that have been posted as gc events during this 2 month test period. When I plan the CC, FC or other OGH, they are done in private, although anyone is welcome to join. Even my monthly GHMGC outings could be considered semi private in that if you are not a member of the GHMGC group on Facebook (you are a member but I am surprised you have never come out, as you probably would really enjoy many of them), you probably won't know about it unless you hear about it from someone else, although the group does have almost 300 members. By listing the Nov and Dec GHMGC events on GC.com it allowed cachers to find out about it and come out and have a great time. Read the logs to see the fun that was had by all, especially the December outing. During the Dec listed GHMGC we had a group of 5 young adults come out. Their enthusiasm that they showed was quite impressive and something I have not seen in awhile. I think we were all impressed, amazed and entertained which just added to the whole experience. No, you never said that and I don't think anyone said or got the impression that you did. You said a lot of far fetched things like what if 1200 people come out to a group hunt. The largest event in Ontario has only had just over 500 people. Events barely top 100 people so what makes you think an OGH would get 1200? If an OGH got up to 1200 will attends, then you really need to address that and as an Event Host you are probably doing something wrong, but again, it ain't going to happen. Also that the average OGH was 50-60 people...all I asked for was 2 additional examples since I couldn't think of any and I am involved in a lot of OGH. I am curious since you made the statement, and I couldn't think of any and I truly want to know (You can email me privately if you want). I find a lot of people "say" things, and it would be nice if they could back it up to give the concerns more weight. Mine wasn't a rant nor do I think anyone else has gone on in a rant within this thread. It was me replying to comments made by yourself and Keith in respect to things that the 2 of you said last night. This is a forum for discussion on the topic of OGH and I was addressing (and disagreeing with) some of the things that were said. Scenarios and claims were said and I asked for examples, which however seem to be brushed off by saying you are not taking part anymore. I am actually surprised how civil this thread has been compared to others in the gc forums. As for outing ourselves? Really, what is there to hide? We took part in a 24 hr caching marathon in 2004 and had a great time and accomplished something we were very proud of being able to do. Afterwards people tried to knock us down and it just showed how jealous some people could be. You took part in the 24 hr marathon the following year, didn't you think it was quite the accomplishment (epic?) and wouldn't you hate it if someone tried to knock your accomplishment? I know you way too well and I don't see you ever committing geocide, you enjoy the game way too much. You have every right to post your thoughts and that is what you did, but I don't see why you would go to the extreme of saying you were considering geocide. You have been involved in many heated debates, a lot more heated than in this thread, which I didn't see as heated at all. This thread/topic really has been very civil. In this case here, everyone else just didn't agree with the items you brought up and said so. I personally thought that much of it was far fetched and not accurate so I replied, since I would consider myself very knowledgable when it comes to OGH and geocaching. Some free advice, if you believe strongly in some of the things that you said, back them up with examples as it will go a long way in supporting what is said. I would rather be out caching too than reading/posting in the forums (you've probably noticed I don't say much in the forums unless it is something that may effect me or that interests me), but since I do a lot of, and regular, OGH, this topic is of interest to me so I am taking part and sharing my thoughts and helping to contribute to the test phase. The way I see it... If Groundspeak allows OGH to be listed as events, I'll probably list the GHMGC outings here as OGH events so that more people can come out and enjoy them who normally may not have found out about these events otherwise. I'll even probably post a couple of other OGH too depending on the situation and what I am organizing. If Groundspeak decides that OGH will not be permitted to be listed here, then I will continue to organize them through Facebook groups as I have been doing for the past 2+ years or through email. Either way people will continue to enjoy getting out and taking part in a variety of OGH and they will have fun. Also, there might come a time, and it has happened, that an OGH didn't work out as I had expected when I organized it and if that is the case, no big deal, I will learn from it and make adjustments accordingly next time I do it again.

Wow, so much being said tonight...where to begin. I think some of the scenarios and suggestions being brought up here this evening are unrealistic and very unlikely, especially since none of them can be backed up. Are you talking about cachers or hikers? I don't know of any OGH that has had 50 cachers go searching for caches along the Bruce Trail together. I don't think it has ever happened. As you know I have held 13 BT Hike events so far and you took part in each. The only one that had over 50 attendees was part 1 of the Niagara Section back on April 10, 2009 where there were 65 people who attended. Since you were there, was there any harmful impact at all to the trail or the surrounding area? This is totally unrealistic. NOT going to happen! There's always rare or unexpected situations, but this is not one of them. You won't even get 200 people and 100 will be very rare (but it will happen). 50 is a stretch too. The 2 test events I hosted had 34 and 37 people attend respectively. I do a lot of group caching and organize dozens of these. The largest turnout was 60 people during a GHMGC event in January 2010 in Oakville, and I attribute the high turnout to the location and nice weather we had that day in January and then 50 cachers during another GHMGC event in April 2010 in Ancaster. Usually we have in the 20s or 30s range for attendance and I see a similar thing with the 9 test events taking place during the test period. It makes zero sense to have hundreds of people find\visit a cache at once. Once you get any significant numbers show up, people will stick together for the beginning and then after a few caches, it is clear that people split up into smaller groups. Some people may have done a cache already and skip ahead, some people may stop for lunch, some people may only want to come out for a few and then go home. Last weekend I organized the Challenge Caching 7 OGH through a group I created 3 days before the event on Facebook. I invited 25 people to the group who I thought would be interested in taking part in the adventurous day and 11 people showed up. Not bad for last minute organization. In this situation and many similar ones because of the required 2 week lead time and because the type of event, it doesn't make sense to list it on geocaching.com. First, I find this VERY insulting and I don't get insulted easily. Why even bring this up if there is zero truth in it and that you even say that you know its false. I can give you more information and names. This was the 1st ever 24 hr geocaching marathon back on August 28, 2004. It was the following 8 of us that were there at the cache GCH46W, Keith Watson, Jiminie Crickets, res2100, Chris-Mouse, Northern Eagle, dr.clean, Dex4, and Fizbot. This was the 43rd and last cache of the 24 hrs at 8am in the morning. It was an old somewhat neglected cemetery. Based on who was saying what back then 7 years ago, it's pretty obvious who started it and who was spreading these rumours. It's nothing more than a bunch of people being jealous of our epic...wait that's lame...monumental accomplishment that no one had been able to do or think of doing before we accomplished it. If you have any doubts, I am sure you can easily ask Chris-Mouse who took part in the 24 hrs and who yu can with just about every Friday night. I am sure how he will tell you how we were in the cemetery with chainsaws and shovels tearing up everything in site and even knocking down some headstones...NOT. Have you gone back to Chris-mouse's or Cache At Night's BFL caches after this year's event to see what happened? Those 2 caches had the most activity during BFL night. 99%+ caches are placed without permission. If someone gets bent out of shape for having people visit their cache, then maybe they need to rethink their participation in the hobby. I can name several situation where considerable damage has been done to a cache area. Something to consider, having 50 people who are part of a OGH visit a cache together will do a lot less damage than having 50 individuals/in small groups visit that same cache. Anyone that has been on an OGH will know first hand that you'll have a handful of people search for the cache, while others stand around socializing or someone will have it in hand already before the entire group makes it to ground zero. Really? I have named 2 above and those are the only 2 that I know of over the past 2+ years (actually since I started caching) that have reached 50+ in attendance and I consider myself to organize, take part in, invited to many and read way too many logs. I think you are way off on this average. I would say a more realistic average is 10-20 people and 20 is high. I don't think your weekly bfl gets more than 10 people showing up rarely. Most OGH are currently done through email and Facebook and sometimes in the local forums and usually among friends/regular caching partners. I was going to say that having 30 people show up to an GHMGC event that I organize on Facebook is high. Actually I just calculated and the average is about 31 people that take part in the GHMGC group caching, ranging from 13 to 60. I'ld be very interested to know what other OGH have had 50+ people. I'll just ask for 2 additional examples. I think 30 is way too high too. There are a lot of small/private groups that go on OGH too. ...this is way too long, but I felt there was too much of a big deal being made where it wasn't necessary.

After hosting 2 Organized Group Hunts that were listed on gc.com, I definitely see the benefit of allowing them to be listed as events. Whether or not they are listed as their own event type with their own icon is up to Groundspeak to decide, although I don't really see a benefit for them to have their own icon (ie pub events don't have their own icon, picnics don't have their own icons) except to maybe have them stand out from other event types, but just like any event listed on gc.com, people can just open up and read the listing to see if it is something for them. For the last 2 plus years I have been doing monthly organized group hunts using Facebook, which works great, but of course only Facebook users, and only those that join the group are able to find out about these group cache outings, so that leaves out thousands of people that wouldn't know about it, but yet perhaps would take part if they knew it existed. Listing these types of events on gc.com would open it up for all geocachers to take part as was especially the case in the 2 that I listed these past 2 month during the trial period. I think that Fababoo's log on my December OGH event says it the best especially the 2nd paragraph. Also if you read anyone else's log on any of the OGH events that have taken part in these events during the test period, you will see that everyone has enjoyed these events. I have not seen one negative comment in a log or in this thread as to why OGH shouldn't be allowed to be listed on gc.com. Just like existing events ranging from pub gatherings to picnics to citos and event other activities like curling, there is a lot of variety and from the OGH test events posted during this 2 month test period, there is no and should not be a defined rule on how a OGH should be run. It could be a group of caches where people spend the day hiking too, it could involve driving from cache to cache, or perhaps a combination. It could also involve just finding 1 cache or a small group of caches, or could be a full long day of caching. It is nice that there can be so many variations of OGH. Something also to consider comparing OGH to other types of events. OGH I think fits more the spirit of caching than other events since during OGH people are doing what they enjoy and what the whole purpose of this activity is and that is finding geocaches, whereas in a pub, a gps really isn't needed, no caches are found at pub, they're pretty commercial as the pub stands to take in thousands of $$, people just sit around and talk (nothing in the event guidelines that says an event needs to be social, although 99.9% are). I think that it is clear people want OGH and OGH would be successful and welcomed as the test events have shown. Either way, I will continue to do group caching events for people to enjoy. If Groundspeak allows these new types, then I will list them here where I see fit, otherwise I will continue to organize through Facebook and through email. Whatever transpires with this, I would like to thank Groundspeak for choosing Ontario for the test period.

Yes, all of the organized Group Caching hunts can be found in the following bookmark list: My linkhttp://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=a98c458b-8bac-403d-836d-7b3f74709611

I created one this morning for the Nov 12th GHMGC. Just made it with the 14 day in advance guideline.