GeoScooter1

YES - My Map60Cx has always had issues with power, even before the bicycling troubles, it even has had Problems with lots of elevation gain and losses on flat running tracks, where TopoFusion would show me lots of elevation gain and losses. Map60CSx has had no issues so far, being only 2 days old now (in my hands). Map60CSx has a Born-On-Date of 6/24/2007 23:20:31 as indicated on the tracklog from the factory. Bought it at REI at $349 minus $39 (dividend). Map60Cx: The Power issues when new may have been Receiver related, and Garmin even wanted my GPS back to look at, back in early 2006, but for some reason, I did not send it in, like a dummy. My 60CSx was just sent back to Garmin for power issues that others having been having (according to a search on did on this forum). I purchased mine in late January and about one month ago, it became nearly impossible to turn on---took about 10 punches on the switch to turn it on. Now, I am having problems getting it to turn off which usually results in me removing the batteries. I have found if I can't turn it on after numerous attempts a wait of about 2 hrs usually results in better luck. This almost sounds like outside temperature issues, but it does this if it has been in the house all day. I just sent it back today so we shall see what happens. Glad I still have my old Magellan SporTrak Map. I never had any problems with it.

It should be listed under "waypoints" when you choose the "find waypoints" feature. They will be listed by GC#. Have you tried turning it off and then back on again? Shouldn't make a difference, but ya never know.

I noticed the same thing with my 60Csx. It seems like it is taking a very long time to acquire satellites even in a clear and unobstructed view. And when I would get close to the cache area, it was spinning around more than usual. I have a friend who has just started caching with me and no matter how many times I say the gps will only be accurate within 30' or so, she keeps trying to get it to zero in exactly on the cache. I get close, start looking and find the cache while she is still going in circles. She then wants to know how I keep finding the caches! On the other hand, she has found some micros that I have logged DNFs on.

You are able at some point to get online with your computer to get to geocaching.com, right? But you don't have a printer so you can have a complete description of the cache, correct? If this is the case, a rather easy way to do it would be as you are looking at the cache page, use the "print screen" function on your computer. Have a blank word document opened, use print screen (this takes a picture of the screen) and then paste (ctrl +v) the image into the blank word document and then save it as whatever you want to call it. You can do this and have a folder of all your caches and all you have to do is turn on your computer and open the document whenever you choose. Hope this helps.

I just have a Garmin ETREX. I do not see any map capabilities in the unit. If you have the yellow Etrex it doesn't. If you have an Etrex Legend or Vista then it does. BTW, I sometimes print out maps to have a nice large map of the area I'm going to with the caches on it. It helps me plan my attack. I just have the yellow. Any other options open for me? No way to get the maps onto the PDA? BYW, are more expensive GPS units more accurate? My Etrex seems to be way off sometimes... Try this: http://microsoft.handango.com/PlatformProd...productId=69490 Or the combination of these: http://www.pcables.com/prod6.html http://www.mapopolis.com/MapopolisNavigator2.pdf This would put Mapopolis on your T3 and then the cable would connect the 2 together and you could have navigation capabilities.

You can get Microsoft Pocket PC for a PC but if you already have a GPS with good maps on it, I am not sure why you would want to buy extra maps. I just use my Pocket PC to load the cache info: size, clues, logs, photos, and use my GPS to get me where I am going. I haven't tried CacheMate, so I can't compare it to anything, but I use GSAK and have used GPX Sonar. I like them both.

Mine took about 3 or 4 days which I thought was fast. Might take longer with the holiday, though.

You get hundreds of ticks on you at a time? Hundreds are on a good day here in Arkansas. I have had hundreds on me while out mountain biking and then had a long drive home before I could deal with them. Quite a few of them had climbed a little too high.

"So, let's see: throw-down cache, vacation cache, not replacing the cache where he found it (was supposed to be), different size cache, isn't that enough? What's left is pretty much a completely different cache so he log a find." However, he makes a big deal out of saying that he will NOT log a find to show that his motive is pure. I say how can you log a find for something that is not even there in the case of caches that are actually gone. And how can you log a find on a cache you have placed? If that is possible, every cache owner would be the FTF on their own cache.

OK...have to comment. This is not a matter of DNFs or throwdowns with this guy. He makes it his mission to go around the U.S. (yes, the whole country) replacing caches that might need maintenance, have been listed as MIA or in the case I am speaking about, listed as "temporarily disabled" by the owner. He states he has done the owner a big FAVOR by replacing her cache until she can get there to take care of it. He didn't ask her permission and he moved it to a "better" place which changed the coordinates and rendered her clue useless. He states that he is doing all future cachers a FAVOR by replacing caches that might otherwise be archived and not available to be found. This part may be true, but it is not up to him to do this. They are not his caches. He logs new coordinates and clues, but never follows up with the cache owner to see if the information on the cache page is changed to reflect his little log that most people don't end up seeing. This is what happened to me. I went to 2 different caches and had DNFs only to discover that he had moved the cache, changed the container and changed clue info. I do not use the logs when I cache and the logs were no longer on the 1st page anyway so I wouldn't have seen them. I was not happy about spending time and gas on the 2 caches and posted a log stating so. Another cacher later posted a log saying pretty much the same thing and now he has sent harassing emails to both of us. This might give you an idea of this guy's personality. On the one cache that he moved and I later found, the log is tightly rolled up in some kind of shell casing...not sure of the caliber and on the outside of the casing he has taken the time to engrave it with this name and some other info!!!!!

I have an IPAQ rx 3115 and have been using GPXSonar but have been looking at GSAK. What are (if any) the differences between Sonar and GSAK for paperless caching?

I agree with nekom! As Brian says this soundslike a throwdown by someone who could not find the cache. Hey! If I'm still active, it's MY cache. I'll decide what to do with it! don't eve think of moving it to a 'less muggle' area. I put it there! That's where I want it to be! It is not a throw down. He thinks he is a Geo Cache Samaritan/Golden Ruler. I will not comment on this any further because the guy who did it is harassing me and and another cacher who commented on his replacing a cache that is not his. He has sent several emails calling that cacher an idiot and stupid, etc. His emails are being looked into by someone from the goecaching site. It has gotten out of hand.

The owner had temporarily disabled it and had even posted a note in late July saying she was still trying to come up with something to put there so it wouldn't be muggled again.

yea I understand that they posted a note, but since it never made it onto the cache page it could have been written on the wall in the men's restroom for all the more it helps most cachers. IMO Most people do not have the ability to review all the old logs while at the cache site... What I mean is a week or two after they replaced the cache cache and posted the new info they should have checked that it actually got put on the page. I think they should emailed the owner from the start, but if not at that time, then later when they realize the info isn't getting transfered they should have. Posting a note and not looking back is like not telling anyone since after a few logs that note is going to fall out of 'common' view. As for the owner of the cache in question, had it been my cache I would have left it archived and posted on the page that Xcacher was interested in placed a cache of their own in the area. Then emailed the person back and told them to list 'their' cache online (and also included whatever contact info I had if permission was needed in that area). Fixing/replacing a cache can be a good thing, but just plopping out a new one near where an old one was and assuming that owner will take care of the cache is rude. Some would I am sure be happy to 'adopt', but changing the container, location, clue, etc is like giving someone a poodle puppy after their old golden retriever dies. Maybe they want a new dog, maybe not, maybe they do but hate poodles, you kinda need to know the person before showing up with one. I was emailed that I was an idiot and stupid for not using the logs and I got what I deserved. And since I only have a "whopping 50 finds I don't have any experience on any level". The owner was at first not upset about his replacing the cache, but later wasn't happy that it was moved that far away and now has nothing to do with what she originally named it and the intent of the cache. She noted that it was no longer one of her original caches.

Unless I misunderstand, techinally they didn't do anything to the 'cache' that didn't belong to them But I do get your point, changing things is best coordinated with the owner. That way changes made in the field actually get put onto the webpage. Actually, he replaced it with one of his own caches and moved it to a location he thought was less muggle friendly. He picked up someone elses container, took it home and put out his own, then didn't bother telling/emailing anyone??? I took your first post to be that the person put out a new container because the orignal was, or at least they thought it was missing and replaced it! There was a cache here that the owner hid some apprently hard to find micro (I have never done this cache, but is what I understand happend from the cache owner), it got DNF by several of the FTF hounds (though I think 1-2 did find). After a week or two of this the owner goes and checks the cache, and decides to move it a little ways make it easier to find. Meanwhile the same day another cacher visits and decides the cache must be missing since all visits that week have been DNF and replaces the micro. Of course since its still pretty new people are still periodically trying to find it, but now they start finding and signing the 'replacement' cache. That night when the owner gets around to posting they moved the cache and updating the coords finds they can't figure out how/why everyone can suddenly find it, and why the 'spoiler logs' keep dropping the wrong clues. The next day, the person that 'replaced' it finally gets to a computer and posts a find, and explains the cache seems to be missing so they replaced it for the owner... Well meaning, but somehow the owner wasn't happy that they now have to go retrieve the wrong replacement, and sort how who actually found the cache vs. found the 'replacment' and notify those people to change their finds to notes or be deleted. Can you image trying to explain, "yea I know you found a bison tube at the coords but that wasn't my cache. What you found was a replacement placed by a visitor for a cache that wasn't actually missing." The short version is that the original owner "temporarily disabled" the microcache because it kept getting muggled. It was posted on the cache as such in late May, I think. In late July, the owner posts another note saying she is thinking about how best to replace it but it is still disabled. Then this other guy in town visiting or whatever, decides to replace the cache she has archived and he moves it 40' away, posts a new clue suggestion and coordinates in a note on the log. Other cachers who also must not use the logs when they cache go looking for it based on the original info and can't find it. DNFs are posted, the owner goes looking for it, not realizing it has been moved (she did see that it had been replaced) and couldn't find it and archives it. The guy who replaced it emails her with pics of where he placed it and what it looks like and then new coordinates. She renames the cache "Hijacked by_______" and posts the new info. I go back today and find it and post that I am not happy with the guy who moved it, etc and it all just went to heck after that. He asks the owner to change the cache name and removes his logs from it and other some other stuff.

I am guilty of doing this and have never thought about it from the cache owner's perspective. I will try and do better in the future because if it was my cache, I know I would enjoy reading people's comments. Thanks for bringing this up.

Oh...he thinks he is doing everyone a favor by this and can't understand why I am not happy because I mentioned it in the cache logs today. He sent me an email stating this and calling me a fool for complaining. He is doing the cache owner and all future cachers a favor by replacing caches that need maintenance or have been temporarily disabled. And yes...he is and that part is good. I just think he needs to contact the cache owner before he does it, especially so the cache owner can change any information that needs to be updated. Making a note in the logs will probably not work for most people.

OK...now I am really TICKED OFF at this guy. I spend more time and gas today going back to find a cache he hijacked and then I go to find another cache (again I don't have the logs) but reading the cache description indicates that it is really easy. It is a 35mm film canister and pretty much in plain sight according to the cache page. I look and look and cannot find it so I leave to take care of other business, A friend who was there with me calls later and she finally finds it, but it is NOT a film cannister and not where indicated and she does have the logs and looks back and this freaking guy has replaced it and says you will probably need tweezers to get the log out. Just who the heck does this guy think he is? I wasn't going to use his cache name but now I will. COOLCACHE, QUIT REPLACING CACHES YOU DO NOT OWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait... did he REMOVE the original cache before replacing it with his own, or did he find the cache already missing and place a "better" container in a "better" location? If he removed the original, then that's bad in many ways. If all he did was place a new container after the original went missing then that's good. If the owner wants the cache back in the original spot he/she can move it back, or replace it with his/her own container. Since the cache was missing maintenance was required anyway, so no extra work required. I do not know if he took the original or not. I think he makes it a mission of his to find caches that "go missing" and replace them with ones he makes. And according to the logs for this cache,the owner reported that she was temporarily disabling it until she could come up with something better because it kept getting mugggled. Several weeks later, this other guy writes a note that he has placed one of his caches, changed the coordinates and suggests another clue for the new hide. He doesn't email the cache owner he has done this...just posts a note. Someone finds it (using the info about the new coordinates/clue in the note) and logs it so now the owner knows it has been replaced and she removes the temporarily disabled status. Time passes and there are several DNFs probably because (like me) they didn't use/see the logs with the new info. The owner again temporarily disables it and NOW the guy who replaced it (obviously is watching the logs) posts that he GUARANTEES it has not been muggled. The owner goes looking for it, can't find it and takes it offline for maintenance. The guy who replaced it now sends photos to the cache owner along with his suggested clue/coordinates and the cache is now back up. Also, he likes to point out in his note when he is replacing the cache that he is NOT going to log a find. Well...how the heck can you log a find for a cache that the owner has disabled because it is missing? Another edit because the cache owner has now changed the name of the cache to: "HIJACKED BY ______" and remarks that it is no longer one of her orginal caches.

Unless I misunderstand, techinally they didn't do anything to the 'cache' that didn't belong to them But I do get your point, changing things is best coordinated with the owner. That way changes made in the field actually get put onto the webpage. Actually, he replaced it with one of his own caches and moved it to a location he thought was less muggle friendly.

I didn't do this and it is not my cache, but I went looking for a micro the other day and looked and looked. I do not use logs when I cache and the few that I glanced at indicated that the cache was still there. I later looked back through the logs and some guy had posted a note that HE had replaced the cache and moved it several feet away. He even suggested a new clue for it. The owner didn't know this (must have missed seeing the note) and she went looking for it and couldn't find it. The guy who replaced it finally sent her pics of the cache so she could find it and now she has put it back online with his info. I am going later today to look for it with HIS new coordinates. I don't think she is too happy about him doing this without her permission and I guess where he moved it to has nothing to do with the original name and placement of the cache. The guy doesn't even live here and just goes around replacing caches---according to his profile. This really isn't the way to deal with a cache that doesn't belong to you, is it? Edited after another cup of coffee to correct spelling/typos/grammer.

I have a Garmin 60CSx and I was noticing that in the last few days it was taking a long time to acquire satellites. Plus, after I did get satellite reception, there did seem to be more bounce.

I agree. Cache because you want to and enjoy it, not for the FTFs , all the stats, etc. I suspect that a lot of the FTF fever is testosterone driven.

Are their lives so pitiful and pathetic that they have to resort to taking travel bugs and geocoins and keeping them for themselves? I have been to some caches lately that list having these items in inventory, but I have yet to find one in a cache. One cache even had someone log in May that they took the geocoin, but that has been the end of it. One cache was supposed to have 3 travel bugs and 1 coin. The travel bugs were logged in on 6/8/2007 and the next log is on 8/15/2007 by one person. It is frustrating to go looking specifically for a bug or a coin that is listed and finding that someone has taken it and either kept it for themselves or just not bothered to log it and move it. If you can take the time to find a cache and perhaps log that you found the cache, you can take the time to list the bug/coin. I know this is not a new topic but when I am caching in 100 degree temps and hoping to find a bug/coin to move, it really irritates me to find that it is gone.

(with deference to the beefcake who both declares me the winner AND rebuts me in the same breath;) UH....he is not exactly what I would call a beefcake. His avatar might be..just as I could have an avatar of Angelina Jolie. Doesn't mean I look like that.