Ellteejak
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I think both units would do the job, but I do have an issue with a unit that floats. Last fall my 60CS came loose from its mount on my belt. This was because the original button that Garmin provides had broken and I had purchased a cheap replacement at Walmart. (Bad Idea). Anyway I was able to watch it roll down the river hitting various odjects on the way, trees, rocks etc, and finally fly through the air and land in the river about 3 feet from shore. I was sure that it was gone and I was in big trouble since I didn't even know my way back to the motel without the GPS. After climibing down the hill I found that I could see my GPS still operating under water. The screen is nice and bright underwater for anyone that is interested. I reached out and snagged it with my walking stick, dried it off and it continued to work without a problem. If it had been the floating type like the 76CS or CSX I could wave goodbye to it as it floated down the river and out into the Great Lakes.
Looks like you have two situations:
1) Floating in calm water, then grab it again. 76CSX. Not floating in a river then grab it from the edge. 60CSX
2) Not floating in deep water, and lost forever. 60CSX. Floating and find it 76CSX.
how about using a lanyard??
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No, the H2Oc does NOT have the SirfIII chipset. I emailed Lowrance about that. They said no. It does, however, have what appears to be a pretty good and sensitive chipset that seems to pull in the sats under tree cover as well, or nearly so, as the SirfIII does.
I saw on the WIKIPEDIA web site reference for SIRFIII chip that the H2OC DOES have the SIRFIII chip. BUT I am sure that is FALSE reference information as I can find no data to backup the WIKI page. What I do see is that a SIRFIII (like the garmin products) has twelve channels of data, while the Lowarnce has 16 channels of acquiring data.
Anyone have other data on this?
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Mkae sure you are using the latest USB driver from garmin. Mine was updated for my Legend C via the USB conenction. Works great now.
N1KCG
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...ETA: I think Navigator 7 will work on GPSMap 60csx...the whole key here is calling Garmin to send you the DVD.
That's good information. Navigator will work on the handheld.
I have an Ique 3600 with MAPSOURCE (activated). I also have a Etrex Legend without MAPSOURCE, but Garmin activated it to the MAPSOURCE from my IQUE. Works great. then I just ordered an upgrade to the MAPSOURCE as I was due a free upgrade from Garmin. So effectively i get the latest map sets on both of my devices.
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I just found this. Looks like a great bargain for going paperless.
found this news at www.Techbargains.com.
Palm Z22 Handheld PDA w/ Palm OS Garnet 5.4 $74.99 Free Shipping
Circuitcity.com has the Palm Z22 Handheld PDA, featuring a 5" touchscreen color display, 200MHz processor with 32MB RAM, and Palm OS Garnet 5.4 operating system, for a low $74.99 Free Shipping. Tax in most states.
good PDA
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I am currently using a palmIIIxe and using cachemate. The problem is when I go to load everything up about 6MB worth of data it is taking a long time to download it to the unit and then cachemate has to do its stuff. Is there a faster way to do this? Or is there a faster unit at a reasonable price. I think now it is taking about 45 min to an hour to put on 6500 caches. I like to keep a large amount of caches up to date since I never know where I am going to end up. Thanks for the help.
1) read my discussion about optimal fast upload of data to PDA. I just started talking about this issue. If you use GSAK you can select just the top 100 caches near a specific ZIPCODE to upload to a CACHEMATE file for sync to your PDA. This should speed things up significantly for the transfer, and also for the working on your PDA.
2) also get the application called BACKUPMAN for your PDA with a SD memory card. Anytime the PDA dies, you just startup BACKUPMAN to restore the data from the SD card, and you are back in business. Of course you need to get a PDA with a SD memery slot.
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GSAK outputs a CACHEMATE file directly to my PDA for sync. I am trying to reduce the size of the files transfered to just the top 100 local geocaches at whatever ZIPCODE I am working with.
I used to send everything over to my GPS and my PDA, but I am finding that this clutters the database on the GPS or PDA so much that it slows the applications down (applications within the PDA or within the GPS).
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What are folks finding is the best optimal fast way to update the data on your paperless PDA or the waypoints on your GPS??
I was experimenting yesterday and found that if I was using GSAK I could sort by the center of the ZIP CODE to the town I was attempting to travel to. Then I can upload only the top 100 from the list. The upload can go to my GPS (Garmin Legend), and to my PDA (Ique 3600).
Is this how most people are doing updates?
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They are both great units. I have used an older model Ifinder for the last year or so and it has worked great... I recently replaced it with a Garmin Gpsmap 60cx.
Here is Why: The Lowrance wasn't color. The Lowrance is an older model and takes a while to refresh maps, more so when it is cold outside. The Lowrance Topo Software only allows you to use 5 SD cards. The Lowrance has a confusing interface.
With all of that said, Lowrance Ifinders are still awesome. I used mine for geocaching and bowhunting in deep woods. It has never malfunctioned and has always been able to get a signal in heavy cover, as well as in my living-room. The new Ifinder is color, has a beautiful screen, uses dual processor chips for quicker map loading.
I had planned on getting an Ifinder H2o C and using my Lowrance Topo Software with it..... until I checked out the 60cx. The Garmin had a VERY easy and understandable user interface. Also the topo software doesn't limit you to only 5 SD cards. With these two things in mind, I splurged and got the Garmin.
If you don't have the extra $ for the Garmin, don't sweat it. The Ifinder H20c will rock your world. If $ is no object for you, I would recommend the 60cx. They are both winners
What do you mean by the Lowrance limits you to 5 SD cards? If I get some 1 or 2 GB cards, are you saying I can only get the lowrance to recognize up to five of these cards?
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I am looking at the
Lowrance IFINDER H2O Color
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Garmin GPSMAP 60Cx
Both have maps. Both have color screens. Both last 15 hours on batteries. Both have good reception. Both have SDcard expansion slots.
Lowrance has 16 channel GPS chip while the Garmin has 12 channel GPS chip. Is this a significant issue??
Lowrance has a larger screen than the Garmin. Is this a significant issue?
Lowrance unit on Amazon is $100 cheaper (about) than the Garmin unit.
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You'll do well to consider the Lowrance units. Although they seem to have a lower spec compared to the 20-channel Sirf enabled units, the difference between 16 and 20 satellites is going to be small. Opinions of the performance have been very favourable. And signal hold should be miles better than the Vista Cx.
The Lowrance 16-channel receiver units also have two processors (as I recall) which they claim gives faster screen refreshes and smoother scrolling when panning the screen. You'll also find very complimentary opinions about the Lowrance colour and black and white screens. If you don't need autorouting, which you obviously don't, then you should consider looking at a Lowrance before making your choice.
I was looking at the price differences over on Amazon. The Garmin 60Cx is $320, while the Lowrance H2O C is $250.
You might be able to win an ebay auction for a H2O Color for $200. Get a color unit. They are worth it.
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I doubt that you will get a lot of objective comparisons - integrated SatNav is relatively new and the number of people with in depth experience of more than one implementation will be few.
I have a recent high-end Toyota Prius with built in SatNav and it is perfectly adequate for anything I have ever asked of it. Good, clear and generally accurate instructions, large, clear and readable touch screen etc.
Its directions can sometimes be confusing - not far from my house the road bends to the right and another minor road forks left (like a letter Y) - the mapping data does not properly encode the connectivity of the roads and the SatNav always tells me to "turn right" although I am really staying on the same, main road...
The biggest difference from an aftermarket GPSr is the inertial navigation - because it can hook into the vehicle data bus and draw on data from the ABS computer which is constantly monitoring wheel speeds, it can make a pretty good stab at navigation for quite long distances without a GPS signal of any kind. I drive in London every day - major "Urban Canyons" with the GPS lock light out quite often. I've watched that navigator track me accurately for not far short of a mile of city streets, turning at junctions and all with no GPS lock at all! I've driven into an underground multistorey car park, gone down two floors, parked all day, driven up back out, driven half a mile or more with no GPS lock ('cos the ephemeris has expired and the reception is so poor that it takes ages to get an update) - and when it finally does get the lock its only a few yards out! You show me an aftermarket unit that can do that!
From the map upgrade point of view, its driven from a DVD in a reader under the passenger seat - not difficult to upgrade, but not particularly cheap - not that Garmin is either quite often...
Martin
Martin, This is awesome!! I was thinking of a Prius, but I think you sold me on one if it has such outstanding design technology. I hope Toyota comes out with a PHEV version next year (PLUGIN HYBRED ELECTRIC VEHICLE).
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The lowrance h20c has it but no autorouting.
Are you sure?? The advertisements all says 16 channel for the H20C, but the SIRFIII chip devices are 20 channels (I think).
Am I wrong?
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I have talked to a few people about GPS units integrated into cars. Lexus has them, and Suburu has them. But who has the best integrated vehicle system?
Reason I am asking is that in a year I will be wanting to buy a vehicle, and I do not want the aftermarket ones as they are a magnet for thieves. Plus I always like integrated solutions.
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I have a Palm TX with TomTom navigation software and GeoNiche geocaching software and it beats any handheld GPSr I've seen hands down for geocaching in terms of functionality. In terms of ruggedness and battery life, however, it's not so hot. You can get external battery packs that use AA batteries, but that compromises portability somewhat. The biggest problem is that it doesn't like water and it doesn't take too well to being dropped (especially the screen). As for price, plan on adding $150 for TomTom (which you can get packaged with a BT GPSr for that) and $25 for GeoNiche.
BTW, in response to yooper_gps...GeoNiche (http://www.raydarlic.com) lets you store and browse .gpx cache info, guides you to the caches, and keeps track of what you've found (among other things).
Craig
1) waterproof - ness well that can be fixed. Just buy an otterbox, or a waterproof bag. People use PDA equipment on boats all the time. Of course that adds to the overall cost comparison again.
2) batteries - dead too early. That is a big issue. Even using a Palm E2 PDA in full bluetooth mode (need to connect to a bluetooth SIRFIII GPS) might kill the batteries in less than a few hours. I think we all need to be able to use our GPS - PDA combination for a full 15 hours at least (then recharge overnight).
3) Maps and other tools. Here is the cost killer!! Updated maps cost money. I think the IQUE 3600 (with maps) is the best solution. Though getting a Palm PDA TOMTOM map set sounds very very nice (and running it on a cellphone PDA). Too many nice toys.
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I know this is a bit of a hijack - but can you tell me what software one needs to install on an M500 to be able to store and browse .gpx cache info from geocaching.com? Also, is there any need for the M515 color version if this is the only use the Palm will get? I've been realizing that printing out and carrying these cache pages is getting to be a hassle. Amazon sells these via third-party sellers - is this the best way to go? Thanks!Usually CACHEMATE software for $8 should do it for storage of cache data. GEONICHE software is more sophisticated for $25 as it can do integrated navigation.
Buying a PDA is like any used device purchase. I rarely ever have problems, but when I do it is hard to get it resolved. 50/50 chances to save bucks. Only buy a PDA that has an expansion memory slot, as you will need to store more data, and to backup your PDA settings, with backup software (costs another $10).
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So how many GPS units do you have at home? Do you have an extra for relatives to use, if you get them to go out looking for caches with you?
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I think you are correct. It is Apples and Oranges comparison.
MAPS!! dadgum that is something I did not have on the radar.
I was looking at all the things that a person can do with a 60CSX and I think I am heading that direction. If I find a bargain at the $250 price I know I will get it. Right now personally I am using a Garmen Legend C, but the problem in Connecticut is narrow rock wall/canyon/hill areas, and reflection.
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Does the GPSlim236 have a SIRFIII chip in it? If not then you should upgrade as teh SIRFIII is teh superior technology.
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I can buy a Garmin 60CSX at around $300
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I can buy a Palm PDA (TX or E2) and a Bluetooth SirfIII chipped GPS for around $250 combined
has anyone investigated which is the better solution? Hope this is not too technical a question.
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I am wondering if anyone has used pocket queries to make a list of the most active cachers in a defined area? I know I can use the GSAK program to somehow make this work, but did not want to reinvent the wheel. Does anyone have the procedure to do this??
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Has anyone seen the two new Christmas Garmen commercials? They are absolutely so funny. Did anyone do a capture of the commercials and post them to Youtube yet?
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Somewhere I read that pocket queries on routes seemed to not work. has this been fixed?
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The temporary solution seems to be to run the pocket query to the screen, and download the resulting LOC file. Then import the LOC into GSAC to just tag/flag only your files that are in the LOC (can be done during import).
Then you have a list of caches tagged/flagged that you want.
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I send this list from GSAK to my PDA via CACHEMATE export.
I send this list from GSAK to my road mapping software MICROSOFT STREETS & TRIPS via export, and import as travel stops along a driving route.
I send this list from GSAK to my GPS connected to my laptop.
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"There are old mushroom pickers and bold mushroom pickers, but very few old and bold mushroom pickers."
I liked the one my wife found listed in one mushroom book she has. It's a two-part poison. It's only poisonous if you have the mushroom and alchohol in your system at the same time. Pretty weird!
Ooohhh the alcoholic killer mushroom!!!! For your beer drinking friends.
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excellent suggestions.