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TravelerHuntter hit 3 of my old TBs today. None have pics with numbers. One was taken from a cache by a non-geocacher (they signed the log) before it ever made a single move so it has ZERO miles. Jerk....

that was a pretty awesome wedding at GW!

There is no requirement to register or spend money to attend GeoWoodstock... HOWEVER - your experience will be greatly enhanced by spending a few dollars to get a cool name tag and eat an excellent meal. You will also find other cool swag and fun stuff in your registration packet depending on the support level you purchase. Besides, we really appreciate your support! We have spent a lot of time working to make this a truly outstanding event. I hope to see you at the event. Look me up and tell me if you think it's worth it - I'll probably be hanging out at the tie dye booth.

My apologies to you Seekeroftheway - my name is Jim. You would've known that and received a much nicer response if you had sent me a personal email and opened a dialogue. It's a smack to a cache owner to receive a "needs maintenance" log especially in cases like this cache. Had we conversed about it you would've learned some interesting things about the timing and placement of this cache. (Note the age of the cache for a hint) If my last sentences seem snarky (a favorite word here in the GC forums) as well I truly apologize. You did catch me on a bad day and I took out my personal frustration in my response to your NM log. I really did enjoy your other log and even your NM wasn't bad at all - I was just having a very bad day. Please DO keep posting your detailed notes. I enjoy reading them. As an old fart geocacher, caches that need maintenance are usually best dealt with by doing it yourself if all it needs is a scrap of paper or an email to the owner (no one likes to be called on the carpet in front of THE WHOLE WORLD (as this thread shows) ;-) or after the preceding steps have failed or are unavailable - post a needs maintenance log. I realize you are new and wouldn't know the local etiquette. For that you are most certainly forgiven. I trust you will forgive my rudeness to you. Here's a bit of advice to you in your geocaching adventures - check out a local forum like nefga DOT com in our area. THIS forum is quick to get hateful and ugly and is woefully short on trying to heal things or make amends. I guess it's not entertaining enough. The post to which I am replying is as far as I read. I read that far to see if you were a whiner. If so, I wouldn't have spent this amount of time on you. Thank you for trying to do the right thing. Come check out the locals - you will find we are not nearly as evil as some in here would have you believe. Normally I would send something like this post as a private email to you but every once in a while the people that spend way too much time in here looking for an argument need to learn how to politely deal with an issue. I'll take my leave of this place and would be pleased to see a reply from you in my inbox. Best regards to you Seekeroftheway. To the whiners in here - try settling an issue without all that awful whining. To those in here with serious, thoughtful, non hateful comments - keep up the good work but give the whiners a good smack once in a while. Someone call me a troll? That *IS* funny! LOL!~! If anyone wants me to read their replies, please cc my inbox as I will not be contnuing to follow this thread.Thanks!

why wait? Just go stand next to them, they will leave. If they don't leave stand a little closer and look at them. If they still don't leave they are probably geocachers.

While caching some years back in Nashville with the original CHB, we found a rather large series of "lame" caches - many of which were hidden in lamp posts or guard rails. My attitude was similar to yours. I enjoyed great sport in making fun of the simplistic nature of the hides and the ease of finding these caches. It didn't bother me one little bit (then or now) to log them but I confess to being a bit condescending in my attitude toward these "lame" hiders. My attitude continued until I met a couple of these "lame" hiders at GeoWoodstock 2. It seems they really were LAME. I mean they were physically disabled. Realization came like a slap in my face. They did what they could do and had a great time doing it. I respect that. I learned this is a game and everyone can't play it my way. If any would care to flame/berate/find fault/etc. with me - please send me an email because I probably won't be back in the forums for a while. I try to limit myself to 30 minutes a month and I'm at my limit. Jim

DAMMIT MAN! That last comment cost me another nudge to my post count. I've got to get this under control......

BTW........ I haven't heard any NEFGA area people complaining...... LMAO!

Good memory. Except it started with GW3. While that has nothing to do with this thread directly, it probably explains the MYOB attitude of many of the NEFGA posters on this thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The problem is that TPTB frequently interpret what is discussed here as a reflection of the opinions of the geocaching community has a whole. The whinny wheel gets the grease, so to speak. IMO, there is a wide disparity between the high post count folks and Joe the Cacher when it comes to opinions about stuff like this. People who have never posted an event expound on what should be allowed and what shouldn't be allowed at events they will never attend. Pretty soon you've the reviewers chirping in under their reviewer and non-reviewer personas and then Micheal goes and archives and locks caches without so much as a "hey there pardner". Even if that doesn't happen here, I've seen it happen before. All the while the people who actually hide and find caches and post and attend events are out doing it, and not bloviating here. So their voices aren't heard. I got an email about this thread from an instigator here (you know who you are), and got a chuckle out of it and posted a link on our thread for the event on our own forum. That drew a lot of NEFGA folks in and, knowing some of the history, it's not surprising some got a little passionate about it. Mainly we all just had a little fun stiring the pot. Now, much as I hate the idea of explaining myself in these forums, I'll expound a little bit on this event. I've been wanting to post a local event as Members Only for a long time. Just to see if anyone would notice. By anyone, I mean the people in this area and others whose opinions actually matter to me, not people in AZ and NY. I certainly never expected such a national dust up. In this area there are a lot of members only caches, so active cachers are almost always Premium Members. It wouldn't have surprised me if the event came and went with no one even noticing. Problem was that, like most of the people here, when I post and event I want to attract newbees, so it just never seemed appropriate to post an event as members only just as an experiment. This particular event is unusual. It's primary purpose is to see off some cachers on a 24 hour cache run through Northern Florida. Bring bugs for them to delivery. And take care of some local geo-issues. Its a space limited venue and we don't really have the time, space, or resources to spread the welcome mat as we normally would for newbees. In fact, it a newbee shows up I'll be a little embarssed because I'll probably be a poor host for them. In addition, for organizational purposes, I wanted to have the Audit Log available. So it seemed like a good time to run my experiment. That's it in a nutshell. No hidden agenda to drive up sales of Premium Memberships (not that there would be anything wrong with that). No attempt to exclude anyone. Just a little variation in one of dozens of events to add a little fun. While things might get testy in these forums, should any of you actually show up at the event, you would find a warm and friendly welcome. We would love to have you. Thanks for the explanation. Had this been posted, oh 133 entries ago, we could have avoided all this fun. And sorry, have no idea what the Geowoodstock history is so, I dont understand the MYOB no that part. Oh no..... that just won't do! We can't end this thread YET! We've barely even got started. I was thinking of telling the AZ crowd we didn't like their dusty selves or make some disparaging Yankee comment or something to continue the animosity. Let's go..... someone say we're in it for the money or SOMETHING!

Me!

Sorry Dunderhead, I just looked at your profile and see that your finds are all in SE Asia... disregard my previous post.... especially the part about it being non-venomous. I have no experience with snakes from Asia.

If I knew that picture was taken near me in Florida, I'd say it was a grey rat snake with an unusual coloration pattern. Truth is, the pattern is way off from a grey rat snake so I suspect it is a variant such as a Baird's rat snake or possibly a small pine snake. Narrow the area and I'll give you a better guess. It is NOT a venomous snake unless you are outside of North America. I'm not a papered expert but I used to be quite the snake nut. My high was about 50 snakes in my house at one time which included a brood of baby garter snakes that we watched born. I know the venomous types pretty well as I used to keep venomous snakes also (with the appropriate permits)..... until a coral snake got out.... It was never a big deal if one of the others got loose - they turn up eventually (found one in a file drawer as I opened it!) or escape to help keep the local rodent population down. Having a coral snake loose in your house is a tad unnerving.

Special thanks to all who submitted proposals. They were all excellent and any one of them would've put on a great event. It would've made it a lot easier if that were not so!

ROFLMAO! Good one Lep!

Now? Who knows.... but.... a year or so ago there was a cache that stayed at the top of my "nearest" list that was "HERE" miles away. Yep, you read it correctly. It seems if you use the exact coordinates of a person's home, you get "here" instead of 0.whatever miles away. A friend cleverly deduced my home coordinates and used it for the bogus coordinates for an evil multi whose actual coordinates were 40 miles away. That one taunted me for some time. It was quite funny to see it at the top of my page.

In NEFGA country, you would be called a vampire cacher. From the original vampire cacher (myself), take that as a compliment! I have found many caches at night and even went on fairly long hikes for caches in the dark. When vampire caching alone (as usual), I prefer to do it sans flashlight though I usually have one with me just in case! There's something exciting about walking in the woods in the dark and relying on your night vision to find your way. And yes.... I even done some pretty good bushwhacks in the dark with no flashlight. I've sure made some easy caches difficult!

ROFLMAO! It seems we have something in common! A mutual disdain for the lottery. oops.... sorry.... back on topic! NUT jobs! Sheesh!

excellent! excellent! Excellent! Thank you.

interested... any clue on how to properly measure my shuny bald head?

I think you've cooked worms before.... right?

Use Zinnser 1-2-3 acrylic primer on the foam BEFORE the stone spray.... allow the foam to cure for a couple of days first, apply 1-2-3, allow it to cure for a couple of days, apply stone spray. cracking problem gone

Why don't you just remove it from the cache and say nothing about it? Around here "contraband" is routinely removed.... and eaten if it looks good!

to answer you a little more directly put <p> after the text you want to separate into a paragraph. <br> will force a hard carriage return on the page to separate lines. It may be crude but it's what I do. BTW.... make sure you check the box that says your description is in HTML

Yes, I agree. Sickening, just sickening! I put it out there to see what happens. It's a one-time shot, and if it doesn't sell, I will never put it up for sale again. I've been thinking really hard about this. I tell you what. I will go ahead and trade you the O.C.B. for your next years premium membership. Hopefully that will relieve that sickening feeling. I would even then donate it to the Worldwide Museum of Geocaching. Sounds like a good trade to me. I have been biting my tongue aout this one for 3 days. Thanks Mtn-Man for putting my thoughts in a humorous light.

Totally agree. Of course, time heals all wounds. Anybody remember the hatred and bigotry between Catholics and Protestants in this country? The hatred of the Irish? Italians? Those discriminations have had a bit more time to go away and pretty much have disappeared. I expect the color of skin issue will also die and go away given time. After all, in my lifetime were "colored" drinking fountains, mandatory separation, etc. and I am only 45. I am a patient person. A few more generations and people will wonder what all the fuss was about.