Michaelfiles

I just declined it As I said in the post just before, I initiated an investigation on the issue to all members of the group ( and not only officer & VIP member)so you are part (Mail sent 1 hour ago) It would have been nice if you waited for the result of the investigation before proposing this MM............ For information for others : I send a Mail to the all membre (including elyop) "Hello, I created an investigation (link to the investigation) to find out what we will do with regard to the issue of Restrictions. I find it unfortunate that I have received only one remark on this point since I initiated the procedure for creating the Category And now when we point out that there is this restriction a majority is unleashed on that This investigation remains online until Wednesday 6 pm. Thank you for answering. Michaelfiles" Question ask

I had thought of this kind of icon (this is a photomontage) Because the WM must be part of a list where this kind of plate should normally be included

Benchmark Blasterz your intervention is very relevant but I want to put some things in front You were wrong, on that point I did not change anything after peer review And eloyb comfirm it in his post I actually have made some changes but only in connection with the remarks during the Peer Review, on the issue of languages (better), clarification on "Instructions for Visiting" (syntax problem) and also delete Dropbox links but basically no change For the rest I will discuss with my Officer and VIP Member from the group

Thx, Your reaction overwhelmed me enormously

No, i didn't want that you leave the group But I'm a little upset I sent a Mail mid-January with a draft to all the members = some remarks on the form but nothing on the bottom of the text On 11/02/2018 first Vote to approve group's category ==> failed (one of the officiere didn't vote) ==> NO remarks On 20/02/2018 Second vote ==> Succesful ==> No remark On 23/02/2018 Peer Review ==> Remark over that i ask specific language, over problem for "Instructions for Visiting and some problem with "Dropbox" ==> have made change And now some players are clamoring over these restrictions, and didn't accept my point of view on hierarchy and respect

Ok, I do not have a problem with that But I find it unfortunate of you to play this game, then you create a WM that does not respect the instructions hoping to publish it I find that you are not respectful towards the members of the group who review You are VIP-member from this catégory, Why did not you make the comment before when she was put the first time to the vote

I respect your WM, I think that F & M had an oversight, accepting your WM Would be nice of you to remove your WM to respect the instructions

Hi Ask you for your opinion On my catégorie ( link ) i have made restriction for posting a new WM Waymarks corresponding to this category will not be validated: World Heritage Sites & War (History) Because I consider, that a monument or a site that is part of the UNESCO heritage and War Site (Where people fought for values of freedom and peace) has a higher value than the others, must be in her own dedicated Catégorie Do you find this unfair ? please argument it

I'm trying to fix it ==> New table in place from link to a file Dropbox For Dropbox, I do not know how, or you tried to access But I know that some employer blocks the access (this is the case right at my)

I love No 1

Thx That's it, the changes have been made Another question, How to change the icon by another, like this from Deutsche Denkmallisten

Ok After accepting or not, I propose to do the following change in description [ENG] A description in the official languages of the region is desirable, but not required [FR] Une description dans la langue officielle de la Région est souhaitable mais pas obligatoire [DE] Eine Beschreibung in der offiziellen Sprachen der Region ist wünschenswert, aber nicht erforderlich [NL] Een beschrijving in de officiële talen van de regio is wenselijk, maar niet verplicht And in Instructions for logging [ENG] Take one or more personally-obtained photos of the monument, or a very detailed description of your visit may be substituted for a photo. [FR] Prenez une ou plusieurs photos personnelles du monument, ou une description très détaillée de votre visite peut se substituée à une photo. [NL] Neem een of meer persoonlijk verkregen foto's van het monument, of een zeer gedetailleerde beschrijving van uw bezoek kan in de plaats komen van een foto. [DE] Mach ein oder mehreren persönliches Bilden von dem Monument, Oder eine sehr detaillierte Beschreibung Ihres Besuchs kann ein Foto ersetzen. Hoping that this is going in the right direction

I'am not here to give lesson, I'm trying to understand where this stubbornness from some people comes from wanting to use only English In fact my problem is that I'm looking for where it is written (in a rule or otherwise) that English is the language we are "forced" to use in WM Do not get me wrong, I'm not against English, I even strongly agree that it takes an explanation / description in this language for understanding ==> In Description : ENGLISH MUST also be present And in fact, I did not find anything except (see topic above) in "Waymarking FAQ", and that I interpret as a will / wish of Groundspeak that we do not forget the locals peoples/Language. I may be wrong For your comments in "Peer Review" Ok for .3 : "Or" would be more adequate than "Of" For .2 : Whereas my english is not famous, "preferably" (more in the sense of a wish) does not mean "Must" ???==> we agree also a photo of the monument without the person or GPS Do not get me wrong, I'm not angry. Usually a good open discussion gets things done Best Regards, Michael

Hello everyone, May I point out to you what WM is for Groundspeak's : What is Waymarking? ...........Groundspeak's slogan is "The Language of Location" and our goal is to give people the tools to help others share and discover unique and interesting locations on the planet........( Link ) Best regards

Alright, end you can always ask for help the officer and VIP member for translation The members have been chosen because they have knowledge in the different languages used in Belgium Franketmuriel : FR &NL Dreamhummie precisely for NL I have specifically invited fi67 to joint us for this knowledge in German, I also invited lumbricus, leader of group Deutsche Denkmallisten - German Monument Registers for his experience and for German and I hopeI'm doing pretty well in the 3 national languages

Here we go, wish me good luck Category Status: Your group's category, Belgium Monument Registers has been sent to peer review. It will be reviewed by the Waymarking community until 2/26/2018.

I understand your remarks regarding the English language But I also think that if we have to limit only to English, it's also quite restrictive for those who didn't understand this language. And if we want that WMs have more success to be limited to one language is not advisable. Just look at the guidelines for EarthCache on geocaching since you have to use Local Language to create them, In some countries they have been multiplied by 3 if not by 5 As you can see, i have made chance since the first draft Description The description MUST first be made in one of the official languages of the region and, if possible, in one of the other official languages of Belgium. A description in ENGLISH MUST also be present (do not forget that it is an international game). If you look at this catégorie : Histoire du Quebec (Quebec Historical Markers) you can also see : "Description MUST be in FRENCH first, then optionally, in ENGLISH..." So I'm not the first to ask to use another language

Ok, for your comments So what do you recommend as Font If I change, I'll do it afterwards because now it's only visual

Hi, YIKES I don't understand your comment 1. Your not an Offifier in the group so i ask me how you can see the script 2. I made the script in HTML code, so normally it is visible by everybody Or I did not understand something

Hi, after having considered some of your comments, I just finished the layout Now it's time to go to next step : "Category Status: The group's category, Belgium Monument Registers is being reviewed by the group officers."

Thx for all your comments First of all I would like to point out that the Belgian is not a language Here in MY country we speak 3 languages (dutch-french and german) and we are proud of it For English I can understand your opinion, But if you want the WMs to have more luck than it works, you must I think accept other languages (and especially not denigrate them) it's called Multiculturality in Europe To create this category I took as an example these 2 categories Histoire du Quebec (Quebec Historical Markers) & Deutsche Denkmallisten - German Monument Registers In the first, you can see that we explicitly ask to use French ????? You can also see that i have say that "A description in ENGLISH (do not forget that it is an international game) MUST also be present" Always thx for your comments Michael

Hi, For the correction no problem, Thx I have been a little to see the laws, normally to benefit from subsidy it is obligatory to display the logo but actually if it is on one of the lists we can assume that it is good. For the URL, my idea was to put here others as the official

Ok, good idea, I will change ;-)

Hi, gents Here, my draft for the creation of the category What do you think abaut Description : [NL] Toon monumenten, eigendommen en beschermde gebieden in België die zijn gemarkeerd en vermeld op de verschillende lijsten in België. [FR] Montrer des monuments, propriété et zone protégés en Belgique qui sont marquées et répertoriées sur les différentes listes en Belgique [DE] Show Denkmäler, Eigentum und Naturschutzgebiet in Belgien, die auf den verschiedenen Listen in Belgien markiert und aufgelistet sind [ENG] Show monuments, property and protected areas in Belgium that are marked and listed on the various lists in Belgium Expanded Description : [FR] Cette catégorie est destinée à montrer des biens, des monuments classés et des zones de protection en Belgique qui de plus doivent être : Marqué par un marqueur historique Belge édité par une des régions. Inscrit sur une des listes maintenues et mises à jour par les différentes régions de Belgique. Ou se trouver sur une des cartes éditées spécialement sur les Sites des régions. [NL] Deze categorie is bedoeld om Erfgoed, geklasseerde monumenten en beschermingszones in België te tonen, die moeten zijn: Gemarkeerd door een Belgische historische markering bewerkt door een van de regio's. Vermeld op een van de lijsten die worden bijgehouden en bijgewerkt door de verschillende regio's van België. Of te vinden op een kaart die speciaal zijn gepubliceerd op de regionale sites. [DE] Diese Kategorie dient dazu, Güter, klassifizierte Denkmäler und Schutzgebiete in Belgien zu zeigen, außerdem müssen sie: Markiert sein von einem belgischen historischen Marker, herausgegeben von einer der Regionen. Auf einer der von den verschiedenen Regionen Belgiens gepflegten und aktualisierten Listen aufgeführt sein. Oder finden Sich auf Karten, die speziell auf den regionalen Seiten veröffentlicht wurden. [ENG] This category is intended to show goods, classified monuments and protection zones in Belgium which must be: Marked by a Belgian historical marker edited by one of the regions. Listed on one of the lists maintained and updated by the different regions of Belgium. Or to be found on a map specially published on the Regional Sites. Sites des regions - Regionale sites - Regionalen Seiten - Regional Sites (Visit Link) Instructions for Posting [FR] Admissibilité Tous les Waymarks de cette catégorie doivent être inscrits sur un des sites web officiel des différentes régions de la Belgique. Ces liens doivent obligatoirement se retrouver dans la description Nom du Waymark Nom de « l’objet » - Ville - Région (par ex. Le Perron – Liège – Wallonie) Photo Au moins deux images du site qui DOIVENT avoir été prises par vous-même. La première une vue du monument où l’on DOIT voir la plaque, plus une vue d’ensemble. Si un panneau explicatif et/ou une plaque avec QR code existe alors veuillez également les mettre Description La description doit OBLIGATOIREMENT être dans une des langues officielles de la Région en premier puis si possible dans une des autres langues officielles Belge. Une description en ANGLAIS (n’oublions pas que c’est un jeu international) DOIT ÊTRE également présente. [NL] Verkiesbaarheid Alle waymarks in deze categorie moeten worden geregistreerd zijn op een van de officiële websites van de verschillende regio's van België. Deze links moeten gevonden worden in de beschrijving Naam van de Waymark Naam van het “Object” – Stad - Régio Foto Ten minste twee afbeeldingen van de site die MOETEN zijn gemaakt door uzelf. De eerste is een weergave van het monument waar u de plaquette moet zien, plus een overzicht. Als er een verklarend paneel en/ of een plaat met QR-code bestaat, plaats deze dan ook op Beschrijving De beschrijving MOET eerst in een van de officiële talen van de regio zijn en indien mogelijk in een van de andere officiële talen van België. Een beschrijving in het ENGELS (vergeet niet dat het een internationaal spel is) MOET ook aanwezig zijn. [DE] Teilnahmeberechtigung Alle Waymark in dieser Kategorie müssen auf einer der offiziellen Websites der verschiedenen Regionen Belgiens registriert sein. Diese Links müssen in der Beschreibung gefunden werden Name des Waymark Name des "Objekts" - Stadt - Régio Foto Es müssen mindestens zwei Bilder gemacht werden, die von Ihnen selbst erstellt werden müssen.. Eines vom Denkmal selbst wo wie die Plakette sehen sollten und eines in seiner Umgebung. Falls ein Schild / QR code über das Denkmal existiert, bitte auch ein Foto davon hinzufügen. Beschreibung Die Beschreibung MUSS zuerst in einer der offiziellen Sprachen der Region und wenn möglich in einer der anderen offiziellen Sprachen Belgiens erfolgen. Eine Beschreibung in ENGLISCH (vergesst nicht, dass es ein internationales Spiel ist) MUSS ebenfalls vorhanden sein. [ENG] Eligibility All waymarks in this category must be registered on one of the official websites of the different regions of Belgium. These links must be found in the description Name of Waymark Name of the "object" - City - Régio Picture At least two pictures have to be taken, which have to be made by yourself. One of the monument itself where the Logo must be see and one in its surroundings. If there is a plaque / QR code over the monument, please add a picture of it as well. Description The description MUST first be made in one of the official languages of the region and, if possible, in one of the other official languages of Belgium. A description in ENGLISH (do not forget that it is an international game) MUST also be present. Restrictions: Ce qui peut se retrouver dans les Catégories suivantes : Wat kan in de volgende categorieën terechtkomen: Was kann in den folgenden Kategorien komen: What can end up in the following categories: World Heritage Sites War (History) Instructions for Visiting a Waymark in this Category [FR] Prenez une photo du monument, de préférence en incluant vous-même ou votre GPSr sur la photo. Une description très détaillée de votre visite peut être substituée à une photo. [NL] Maak een foto van het monument, met voorkeur inclusief jezelf of je GPSr op de foto. Een zeer gedetailleerde beschrijving van uw bezoek kan in de plaats komen van een foto. [DE] Machen Sie ein Foto des Monuments, vorzugsweise mit sich selbst oder Ihrem GPS auf dem Foto. Eine sehr detaillierte Beschreibung Ihres Besuchs kann ein Foto ersetzen. [ENG] Take a picture of the monument, preferably including yourself or your GPSr in the photo. A very detailed description of your visit may be substituted for a photo. Category Settings Waymarks can be added to this category New waymarks of this category are reviewed by the category group prior to being published Category is visible in the directory Variables è FR / NL / DE / ENG Adresse/Adres/Adresses/Address Année de construction/Bouwjaar/Baujahr/Year of construction Date d'arrêté/ Datum van het Besluit/ Datum der Unterschutzstellung/ Date of protection Numéro de dossier/Dossiernummer/Dateinummer/File number URL

You describe "tipically commercial airplanes", and the places where you can photograph the military plane will be excluded ? Because I know that here in Belgium the 3 MIL airport (KB, Florenne and Beauvechain) have specially arranged "Spotter corner". Look this in Beauvechain