TeamOhno

Yesterday, my husband and I disturbed a grave robbing in process while seaching hide in Vermont called "If You're not Paying Attention". Unfortunately, we were here at the right place at the wrong time and the story is all over the local news. We were described as a "hiker" despite the fact that here were two of us and we attempted to explain the basiscs of geocaching to the local and state police. Luckily, we are not suspects, nor are any other geocachers in he area, but it brought home the idea that this is not a hobby without danger. Thought you all might have other similar stories to share, so we thought a thread on this topic might be appropriate. Please do tell your weirdness here!! TeamOhno, Vermont

Hi Buzz, We are very sorry that you are upset with us and concerned about our ethics. We think we are pretty honorable and would never have traveled three hours to retrieve this coveted sig item, except it was for our son. Parents occaisionally do that. Your post did, however get us thinking about whether we should have done what we did, so we emailed the placer of the item to ask his advice on what we should do. Here was our email and his response: Hi LaFrog, We recently placed a cache "Down by the Station" and you left a walking stick. We left it in place for more than 24 hours and no one came to find the hide nor claim the stick. We drove 3 hours round trip to retrieve the walking stick for our 11 year old son who REALLY wanted one. We did not think at the time that it was not okay, but would like your opinion on the matter. If you intended that it be for someone who had not yet found the hide, we will return the stick or place it somewhere else if you like. Please let us know what you would like us to do. Thanks much!! TeamOhno Bugsy to me Not a problem. I put them out for whoever wants them. If you are willing to travel that far for it, then enjoy it. That tells me you really appreciated my efforts. Thanks for the cache in my back yard, (5 miles from home). I guess when you live near such a memory as this bridge all your life, you take it for granide. I must have passed over it 100 times or more. But that's what caching does. It makes you appreciate things out of the 'norm'. Thanks for that. I might point out , though, I have seen the Spring flood water beyond the cache location. I'll keep a watch on it for you and pull it if need be. Have fun, Lafrog -----Original Message----- From: TeamOhno@gmail.com [mailto:TeamOhno@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 6:33 PM To: lafrog@adelphia.net Subject: [GEO] TeamOhno contacting Lafrog from Geocaching.com --This message was sent through http://www.geocaching.com -- So, given that LaFrog has given his blessing, Ozzie will be keeping the stick. I hope we can remain friends and if we ever find a set of Lafrog's walking sticks, we will be sure to pass on them.

A couple of people have mentioned that this may be illegal in your state, but keep in mind that it is also disrespectful in any state. If you are respectful to the hunters they will be respectful to you. And ALWAYS WEAR BLAZE ORANGE! It is the single most effective means of avoiding accidental shootings. States which have passed mandatory blaze orange laws during hunting season have seen dramatic drops in shooting accidents.

Hi fellow geocachers, I work with an organization called DREAM that is a mentoring program organized by Darmouth students and alumni who work with kids from low income families in Vermont. They have placed one cache (not published through this website) for these kids on private land, but would like to teach orienteering and teambuilding through geocaching in the larger community, but their budget is small. I am hoping that some of you might consider donations of older GPS units that you are no longer using to help them in this endeavor. The following is a note from the director of this program: GPS Donation DREAM is a Vermont mentoring program empowering children from affordable housing neighborhoods to recognize their options, make informed decisions,and achieve their dreams. College students and kids form mentoring pairs and do different activities every Friday with regional and national trips every year. We're always looking for more programming options and we'd like to get into geo-caching. If you have any GPS units that you can part with, we'd appreciate the donation. Gifts can be shipped to: The DREAM Program, Inc. PO Box 361, 87 Elm Street, Winooski, VT, 05404. Your donations are tax deductible. Please include the value and we will send you a receipt. Learn more about DREAM at www.dreamprogram.org or call Daniel at 802-655-9015. Thanks! Daniel Shearer The DREAM Program P.O. Box 361 Winooski, VT 05404 802.655.9015 www.dreamprogram.org I encourage you to check out their website, they are doing wonderful thing to help low income families and helping their children. Thanks, in advance, for your generosity!1 TeamOhno

There are a few people in our area who are so concerned that they clear the pages in their area that they log their own hides as finds. I am wondering how you all feel about this. Personally, I have never posted one of my own hides as find because it seems wrong to me. I am curious about the how the rest of the geocaching community feels about this.

There are afew people in our area who are so concerned that they clear the pages in their area that they log their own hides as finds. I am windering how you all feel about this. Personally, I have never posted one of my own hides as find because it seems wrong to me. I am curious about the how the rest of the geocaching community feels about this.

You might get more responses if you weren't using a members only cache as a drop.