i have been trying to help maintain some caches that has been abandoned but to no avail. all it takes is some one to place a needs archived on these and they are gone no matter what i do to save them. i understand ground speaks position that the cache is the owners property but when they have abandoned them and there is a willing active cacher to take care of them then why should geocaching lose these treasures. please help me understand this as i am still confused after a discussion with gpsfun on a facebook group page. is it ground speaks position to lose caches that would be maintained. i am only talking of abandoned caches where the cachers has not responded to emails or been on geocaching.com in over 6 months or longer.