Goldenwattle

NO, NO & NO, Horrible idea. Not everyone caches with a smart phone and it is very easy to remember your pen. If you can remember your smart phone, you can remember a pen. Selective memory. Hate the idea. It would not be geocaching. It sounds like you have come to the wrong game.

That's not uncommon here; (I've done it myself), but the person who signed when the CO hid the cache is not the FTF. The logs I have read go something like this. ""Cacher name' was with me when I placed the cache. They will not log until after the FTF does." I have been with a CO who placed a cache and I signed the log, but not next to FTF and some way down the page to reduce confusion. Fairly common practice.

I would check the log for signatures, both ends, etc. Same with going to a cache and not seeing the last person's signature as the last log. I don't presume that someone signed in order. That was nice of you allowing her to log first.

If it's a FTF I tend to photograph the log to show my signature (and the signatures of any who shared the FTF with me) to be the only log(s) there on an otherwise empty log. Then all you needed to do is add that to your log and that would have said it all. Everyone could see the other person is lying, without naming names. If you liked to make the situation cleaner you could have written you were alone, or mentioned the names of all who shared this FTF with you. That's what I would do. I also sometimes photograph a log (showing my signature) if the signature of last person who claimed a find is nowhere to be seen. I don't mention their name, as the photograph shows their signature is missing. I might however say, first find since (date of last signature on paper log). Then it's up to the CO to take what action they want to do. If I were the CO I would investigate.

I had a puzzle cache icon showing up in the middle of a pond on private property. Somehow the land owner saw this on the internet and I had to move the coordinates to a nearby road, even though the cache wasn't on the private property.

As a non-American I wouldn't have known what LPC was by itself. I would likely have been looking for a sign or sticker with those letters on it. People need to realise that letter combinations can be local. In Australia, we don't have the style of lampposts that you do in America.

Yes, it does.

I used to live in northern NSW and we had it in the forests. Very common. I can remember on a school excursion to the forest a couple of the boys jousting with a twigs with a stinging tree leaf on the end of each of them. It appears holding the twigs is okay; it's only the leaves, but I personally never tested this. Silly, silly kids! The pain could last for months...or worse. Just put on shoes to avoid leaf litter and don't touch furry leaves leaves with insect damage. I used to go bare footed a lot growing up, but not in the rainforest.

That's why it would be bad, as many haven't. I used to play in the rainforest as a kid, but I always wore shoes, as I was frightened of standing on stinging tree leaf litter.

Very good point. Yes many COs don't appear to recognise that. (Not saying this is the case here.)

That so wrong, as that expects that everyone knows what poison ivy looks like. As a non-American (who has visited the USA several times and cached there), I wouldn't have a clue what it looks like. I was careful around ivy looking plants though. That would be like me placing a cache among the leaves of a stinging tree here. That I would give a 5T for, but still that expects that foreigners and even all Australians would recognise stinging tree, as it doesn't grow everywhere. I could only recognise it because I lived where it grew, and I kept a good distance from it. I would never place a cache on such a dangerous plant. Caches shouldn't be put anywhere near dangerous plants, as some people react more to them then others, and some people die. https://theconversation.com/the-worst-kind-of-pain-you-can-imagine-what-its-like-to-be-stung-by-a-stinging-tree-103220

What do you mean? Do you mean log out, which I can't do being blocked. I guess if I removed the cookies that would log me out.

I know I would have thanked a person doing this for me, so I guess I expected the same polite consideration back. I have taken a number of TBs to their goals, and usually I have received messages from the owners. One I returned to the owner's house (they have a wonderful TB hotel on the front porch and that was the TB's final goal), and when I knocked on the door they gave the most enthusiastic reaction I have ever had. I was grabbed and hugged (it was an elderly lady, so not threatening , just friendly), invited in for coffee, even told I should have been staying with them rather than in a motel, and then taken on a tour of the person's own caches. Very warm welcome. They were thrilled I had taken the TB to its goal. The TB had written letters home in some of its logs, and there were lots of photographs too of the TB completing each part of its goals, and other photographs. I do put some effect into some TBs journeys, if I think I can assist and the TB interests me. Another I picked up in the UK while I was holidaying there and brought home to Australia (the TBs goal). I had planned to just leave it in a cache near where I lived, as at least I had got it to the country that was requested, but then I read the goal more thoroughly and saw it wanted to be left in a suburb of Sydney, which is about 300 kms from where I live. My brother lives not far from that suburb, so I decided to visit my brother and fully complete the TBs journey. As for the Antarctica goal, I can't check what sort of logs I made while the geocaching site is not allowing me to use it.

I can't check anything at present, as the geocaching site has blocked my access, as it won't accept my 'I agree' tick. You are likely correct, but I would have liked to check to confirm this. However, I do remember the cache owner appearing under whelmed and showing little interest when I contacted them, which was disappointing, considering the effort I had made to get their TB to its stated goal.

Except it won't let me accept the Terms of Use. I can't get past that and into the site, no matter how many times I click.

My comment was apt for this thread.

I remember being criticised here by some when I mentioned I removed a broken down cache (basically plastic chips) as it wasn't my property. Apparently I was meant to leave it there to break all the way down into plastic microchips, rather than do the responsible thing for the environment and clean up the mess. This is a good change. (I took no notice of those irresponsible comments.)

I was already logged in, but can't look at any caches; anything, because I can't get by that non-responsive button. What the heck is happening, and why did what was working have to be destroyed?

I get this imagine now when I go to geocaching. No matter how many times I click on 'I agree', nothing happens and I can't log in.

It was a note on the cache, which gave the TB a visit. With photographs. That's the best I could arrange, as the person who took it there, was not a geocacher and I wasn't going to log the cache when I didn't visit it myself. I didn't want Antarctica on my list when I hadn't visited it. However, notes generate emails and the owners should have received that.

No, changing the coordinates at the top of the page have never been public. They only appear on your own page. I have had to (try) to explain this to a couple of cachers who just couldn't understand why no one else could see the coordinates, as after all they had updated their coordinates, by changing those at the top of the page. Some of these conversations were very long and drawn out, with a number of cachers attempting and failing to explain this.

While visiting the Northern Territory, I found several caches at old second world war airstrips. Usually it's only a dirt track to these now, but the (usable) air strips still exist, but the buildings are now usually gone, leaving mostly only foundations and narrow dirt tracks winding through the bush, with an occasional old plane (or part of). As in this example. A cache is hidden in it. I drove down a number of these airstrips. I found this unexpected history fascinating.

I found a wallet at the back of some shops while out on a caching trip, cycling about on my bicycle. It still had the cards, but the money was gone. I rang the police and they contacted the owner who then contacted me. Therefore I know some of the story. The owner came and picked it up. She had been out the night before at a club, but she thinks her drink was spiked. A few years ago now, so I don't remember where she woke up. But she was worried she had been raped. Not a good story. She was pleased to get the wallet back, although she had already cancelled the cards.

That makes it easier then. I was thinking of a multi where the steps (many) were 'paces'. (They had stairs as well in this multi.) However, even with stairs, it then always comes down to was the top landing counted a a step or not. Ladders are similar. They are sometimes built into a structure and the rungs are not always clear, as the rungs can be structure, so are these counted.

Hate them, as not everyone (maybe most people) don't have the same step as the CO.