Goldenwattle

Yes, I know some COs like that. I wonder what their home life if like for their family. Difficult I imagine. I like to write reasonable logs, but I have been tempted to just write TFTC whenever I find one of their caches. In fact sometimes I avoid finding their caches, because I can do without their tantrums, which can come across as abuse. (Back to my comment on wondering about their home life, or rather the home life of family members.)

I am pleased that the UAE has now been given a souvenir. Although there are not that many caches there, lots of people make stopovers there, as it's one of the world's busiest airports. I have found ten caches there over two visits. I only have 15 countries where I have found caches, although I have visited other countries before I began caching; at least another dozen.

We have one like that too in my area (GC16FNR). The gun (at least at the given coordinates for the gun) and its information board have now gone. Now you are expected to google it, making it more a puzzle than a multi. Bad luck for the cacher turning up expecting it to be the multi it's shown as , without having googled this first and without a phone with data.

I opt out of this as I find the old version much more user friendly.

From day one I understood what found meant and had taken a pen with me. I had no one to advise me on this, as then I didn't know any other geocachers. I also would have understood what wheelchair accessible would have meant. These concepts are not difficult for a beginner. I got them. However I waited to I had found about 800 caches before laying my first cache, so to get experience, and even then I still felt inexperienced. But I certainly knew I had to sign that log from day one.

Okay, I couldn't name a cruel one, but I have met some stupid ones. Usually they don't last long in the game, although there are a few exceptions. Often they are know-it-alls too. 30 finds, you wrote. I have known 'know it alls' with 5 finds, or in one case zero finds...but they knew it all; which brings up their level of intelligence. The "Fire and Forget" style. There is a local geocacher who places many hundreds of caches out on power trails (mostly). Their idea of maintenance appears to be, hope someone else fixes it; otherwise archive. They are prepared to keep placing caches, but not return to maintain them. They appear to ignore comments mentioning the deteriorating cache, NM, NA until the reviewer comes in. Then they archive. I would guess the cache is left to litter the countryside.

Grading is not at all tricky. The handicapped person needs to be able to fetch the cache themselves. Can they or not? They can = T1; they can't, it's not T1.

That would be very annoying. The example though that I gave, when I bothered to read the hint, the hint actually had, "In the rafters"...for a 1T. So in that case, it was the CO at fault. Another one terrain cache was on a boardwalk marked as wheelchair assessable, that went through a short section of bushland. Fine, however to get the cache the person in the wheelchair would need to get out of their wheelchair, step down off the path at least 30cms, get down on their knees and reach under the boardwalk to retrieve the cache. I mentioned in my log that while the path might be wheelchair accessible, the cache was not wheelchair accessible, but as per usual, the CO ignored the comment. What is wrong with some COs? Are they just really, really stupid, cruel, or they know better better than everyone else and won't take any advice? I suspect a mixture of all three.

If it's the example I gave of up in the (highish) rafters, technically that's a T5, as a ladder would be requires to be brought to reach it. There was nothing underneath to stand on, or nothing that could be moved to stand on.

I'm not sure which log you refer to, but there was a 1T up in the rafters, which I managed to get down with a long stick, but as I had nothing to stand on, and because it was marked 1T I hadn't brought anything with me to stand on, I had no choice but to leave it down low. In this case I didn't feel bad about not returning it to where the CO put it, as it was marked as a 1T ans should never have been found in the rafters.

And they took their ball and went home. Childish!

The reviewer came in. The cache is now locked.

I had an example on an Earthcache I attempted to find very recently in Sydney. I even included photographs to show where the coordinates take you and where they should be. I logged a NM, but I doubt this will get the reviewer's attention, and the CO has made no corrections yet. The finder after me wrote, " The area of interest is about 30m south of the listed co-ords.". I had a DNF of that, as using a GPS, not a phone, I couldn't see the spoiler photograph. Then you get some COs that make wrong coordinates on purpose. My NA log below. Needs Archived 12/Sep/2018 Sad it has come to this. Cache is 154 metres from published coordinates. Now I discover the reason the CO has not updated the coordinates, despite their protestations. It is because it would break the 161 metre rule; at only about 104 metres from another cache, GC----. I will leave this up to the reviewer to deduce the truth here. Published coordinates: S 33° 45.530 E 150° 55.400 Actual coordinates of cache as stated by CO: S 33° 45.612 E 150° 55.421 Coordinates of conflicting cache GC----: S 33° 45.630 E 150° 55.485 The CO is deleting logs that depute their claims. I expect this and another log, at least, to be deleted, but fortunately this will still get to the reviewer first.

Agreed. If there has never been mention on a long standing cache that there is a problem with the coordinates, if they want to write something they should have written that their GPS was off by ten metres; not that the cache was. But on the other hand, it's also irksome with some caches, when many logs do mention that the coordinates are out and the CO ignores them all; even going to the cache and saying they checked the coordinates and found they are correct, when many other people aren't finding this.

As the CO lives in Canada, has only 40 finds and hasn't visited since April, I don't think this is going to be visited any time soon. Although they are a Premium Member though, so that gives a little hope. They could up-rate the terrain. One marked T1 cache I found was up in the rafters of a building. No cache creep there, as the hint was 'Up in the rafters'. The path was T1 to get there, and the wheelchair occupant might have been lucky to find a long stick and knock the cache down, but there is no way they could have returned it. Likewise I, an able bodied person, couldn't return it up high to the rafters, as the cache being only marked 1T I had not come with a step ladder and there was nothing there to stand on. I left it down low at 1T level. The next finder wrote it took a bit of searching to find it, but they agreed with where I had left it. Good on you for doing a NM. I used to ignore these wrongly rated 1T caches, but I don't any more. I either do a NM log like you, or I move the cache to a 1T. It's nasty and lacks empathy to not consider those less physically able and make a cache 1T, when it isn't.

It is very unhelpful when a cacher comes along after the needs maintenance log and writes the following, ignoring the hole in the lid and not acknowledging over two months have passed and we are in a drought. It appears the really soaked log had a chance to dry out. But the disintegrating cache still has a hole in the lid, which will let rain in when it eventually rains and the cache is falling apart. It now sounds like there is nothing wrong with the broken cache with the exposed log. The CO has not done anything yet about it. And this won't get picked up because the owner made the OM. 25/Oct/2019 Container is a bit sun damaged, but still doing it's job. Log book is dry and in good condition. Owner Maintenance 03/Aug/2019 I’m flat out at the moment. Hoping to get up to replace this one soon Needs Maintenance 02/Aug/2019 There was a NM on 09/Jul/2019, but the cache is still in bad condition and no word from the CO. Log is soaked and the cache lid is disintegrating with a hole in the lid. A new cache and log is needed, and the old cache needs to be taken away and disposed of and not left here to fall apart more. Either that, or the old cache should be removed and this archived. Needs Maintenance 09/Jul/2019 This geocacher reported that the container is damaged. Found it 09/Jul/2019 What an interesting high street! A quick find, but the container is damaged and the logbook soaked. Tftc though Found it 06/Jul/2019 Loves me a large cache to add to the tally. Sadly, the hotel is in a state of disrepair and the guestbook has suffered substantially as a result. Maintenance absolutely needed here. ADDED: Another finder has just added a NM. Hopefully the CO won't do another non-OM log . Needs Maintenance 30/Nov/2019 This geocacher reported that the container is damaged. Found it 30/Nov/2019 Easy find, but the container is badly UV damaged and the lid is broken. Log is OK, but only just.

The workaround with the limitations with apps, is to use a computer to log. That's why I don't log with an app. That encourages a decent log; while logging on apps encourages logs such as :TFTC' "Ta' "Nice". Those examples are three logs, not even one. Apps have killed good logging practices. Use a computer and write a proper log..

Actually those dots are quite funny because it makes a mockery of this word count thing, showing how silly it is. It could even be done to demonstrate that.

I don't write as much as some others here it seems. Most are individual logs though. Total words: 332,955, Average: 31, (Total characters: 1,769,797) Longest: GC57Z2N 767, Shortest: GC3F1NZ 1

Where do you find this information?

I think barefootjeff was referring to 'Found' as being the default log, which leads to Found It logs with messages such as "Had a good look but couldn't find it, so it must be missing." (Usually logs like this from Geocachers with few or no finds. Me being sarcastic .) This is not a problem if the CO is doing their job by contacting the logger and asking them to please change their log to DNF, and if they don't, deleting it. It does give the CO more work though, especially if they have many caches.

Agreed, if the CO doesn't want their cache discovered by muggles because they watched someone going through different weird antics while they searched, they need to give a very precise hint to assist, so the cacher can make a quick find and draw less attention to themselves. I have one which recently became muggle central because of building work. I added very precise instructions (which weren't there before) and a spoiler photograph, to help keep my cache safer and hopefully not go missing.

In groups usually people go with their strengths. In our small group, although we all solve some puzzles, one person solves many more than the rest, as he loves doing this and is better at it. Another is likely to be the tree climber, I am likely to be the swimmer. Even if we don't contribute in one area, we will in another. I have never worried that the others got to sign the log when I was the only wet person. Sometimes too it's not practicable for all to get the cache. If everyone had to climb the tree it would be a slow caching day, or the canoe might only fit two people and then when the destination is reached, only one might get out to make the actual find, while the other person stays with the canoe to stop it floating away.

Here's A LF Pantry in Australia. https://www.facebook.com/ascotvalelittlefreepantry/ I would worry about leaving bread in it, unless there is someone taking daily care of it. Here's some links to those in America. Maybe there is more than one group: Blessed Boxes & LF Pantries: https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/life/culture/article/2016/08/02/little-free-pantry-one-communitys-way-helping-people-need https://www.facebook.com/littlefreepantry/ Here's the only one I have seen. It's in Canberra where I live. It was well stocked when I saw it. There's a cache in the LFL beside it, and I was visiting that and also dropping off a book. https://the-riotact.com/little-pantries-have-canberra-origins-down-a-quiet-neighbourly-street/284697

Sorry, I never look at headings; hardly aware of them. I just click on Activity. I didn't know there is a Northern Territory in Canada too. Learnt something.