Well I got my Eagle back in 02. I'm not sure how "wimpy" scouting is anywhere else, but the troop that I was in was anything but, I remember the all night "dirt clod" fights, smoking out of homemade corn pipes, and bloodly smear the queer football games, not to mention the usual harassing of any other troops that we may run across. I made some good friends and I can only hope that when I have kids, that they can be involved in a troop like mine.