wildchld97

Ummm..ewwwwww! Thank goodness we don't have those around here....I hope.

I really wish there was time to get a picture of the bobcat that scared the bleep out of me today. Darn things leap and dash like the wind. I didn't even have time to scream before it was gone. Bobcat Hey..I know that *normally* they're more afraid of YOU...but you just never know...and darn it I didn't even have any warning...except for the tracks that I convinced myself were from a dog. Stupid intuition...why do I ignore it when I'm hiking by myself?

I can't imagine what might have went wrong if you say the envelope was sealed. Of course i'm sure that there are ways that the envelope could have been opened and resealed without being detected. I'd call them up and ask what's going on. If you did not receive the goods that you purchased, you are not under any obligation to pay for it. If you paid by check or debit card, go to your bank and file a dispute. They'll investigate and credit your account if your claim is valid. If it's by credit card, the same rule applies. I'm sure it's just a mistake though. Hopefully.

Don't try that "do gooder" stuff in the other half of my neighborhood. The police would be saying "Hey cool! We'll "check out" the house tonight and see if there's anything that we can steal for the "good of the community." They've had a LOT of new equipment lately and no explaination on how they afforded such luxuries. Take the house key to the address, or do a reverse look up of the address to get the phone number. Ask the owner for an explaination. If it's meant to travel somwhere...they'll let you know. If not, you'll have a very happy person who is glad to have his keys back. (Ok..I did accidentally leave my GPS in the cache one time because I was in a hurry, but at least I remembered and went back and got it. I'll bet that's what happened with these keys.}

I am completely in that camp as well. I have NEVER seen the point in just "discovering" a TB or coin. I see people at events going around from table to table asking for the tracking numbers so they can discover for their stats. People bring coin books, just so others can discover...... why? Ooh, I get a stat bump! I only log TBs I grab, because I'm helping them on their mission... other than that, what's the point? Most people put thought into their TBs, and are watching them. I like knowing that I helped, and always try to at least type a little story up for the owner to read. But, that's just my 50th of a dollar, I guess Oh for heavens sakes...grow up. It's a game. Why should you care one way or the other what a person has on their stats. Is it cheating YOU in some way? NO. Now if we were playing for money brother...I'd be the first person to raise a fuss.

I only "discover" the ones that I know darn well aren't going to be moved along in a reasonable amount of time...and also if they are particularly interesting. I don't want to hang on to the poor thing for weeks on end because I'm working or have other committments...but I do want to know where it's going and what part of the world it's in. Besides, being a TB owner...I'd rather have a TB or coin "discovered" periodically than have it sit in a cache not knowing that it's actually there. Who knows if some child (or adult acting like a child) decided that it's something that they'd like to keep? A person who discovers it and writes a note in the log is at least resting my mind that my TB is still "alive". I have a TB out there that is constantly roaming around in Ohio. The passport with it clearly states that it's goal is to travel to Jamaica to meet me in December. There have been plenty of people "moving" it...but taking it NORTH! I'd rather it sit for someone to take it to it's goal and have the person "discovering" it to just let me know it's still there. Just my .02

Ouch. I'm not sure about those across the pond..but here...there are some people (we've had this discussion before) that take great offense to someone putting that type of "restriction" on the cache page. Coincedentally, the coins or TB's that have those type of restrictions end up missing. When you have children, or adults acting like children playing the game or discussing irrelevant rules in a forum such as this, you might want to reconsider what is really important to you. Either *not* allowing a TB to be discovered and not moved...or having a TB disappear. Your choice.

Are you serious? "Destructive to the environment" because you don't want to read the cache page . . . And . . . those type of caches already have the correct designation. They are listed as Multi-caches. If you insist on "caching blind," you should at least use GSAK and its "smart name" feature, so you have information in the waypoint name. The "smart name" will tell you what kind of cache you are looking for. The GSAK waypoint tells me whether it is a Multi (M), a Virtual (V), or a Traditional (T). If I have corrected coordinates for a Puzzle, it is also noted in the waypoint (Y). A quick glance at the GPSr will tell you whether it is a Traditional or a Multi. If it is a Multi, you can either refer to the cache page and read the instructions, or pass it by. Easy peasy! No environmental destruction. Since it seems so many people don't want to read the cache description, I sometimes wonder why I take the time to write detailed descriptions, with instructions, often including photographs to show off the location, on my cache pages . . . You're right. Why should I bother researching information, writing it down in an easy to read format, and care whether or not somebody learns something from the experience? In any case, it's not my fault if someone is too lazy, semi illiterate, or chooses to use other formats instead of actually READING what the cache is supposed to be before they leave the house. Thems are the breaks.

I'm one of (I guess the few) that choose to make sure that I have done the cache as the owner wanted it, retrieved the cache as the owner had planned, and signed the log as is the normal protocol. There was a cache in a southern state that I almost planned to log as a DNF. However, my determination, spite, and inherent wildness, compelled me to actually risk my life and limb to recover said cache. THERE WERE SHARKS DOWN THERE FOR GODS SAKE! I didn't fall off the boardwalk because I was being held upside down. In any case, if I couldn't retrieve the actual cache and sign the log...it's a DNF plain and simple. Enough drama. Play by the rules people and stop being so childish. If you didn't find the ACTUAL cache and pick it up in your ACTUAL hands and sign it with some type of rudimentary implement...you DID NOT FIND IT. Log deleted for stupidity. Sending pictures back.

Hey..as a cache owner..they can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned. It's their right (regardless of how childish it may be.) Either way, if you refer to my earlier post...this person now has the satisfaction of *knowing* that their TB is still "alive and well"..but won't give the person who "discovered" it the credit for easing his/her mind about it's whereabouts.

I heard someone say popcorn so I popped in. IMMHO..the reason that I would have someone "discover" a TB is to let me know as the owner of said TB that the TB in fact still exists. Some people will choose to find a cache, but would rather not take the TB because they can't carry out it's goal..or because they know that they won't be caching for a while. I'm one of those people. I "discover" the TB's or coins..because it lets the owner know right away that their TB/Coin is still in the cache and not in some child's toybox. Just my .02.

Blue Summit A friend of mine just came back from Jamaica and he said that this cache, (even thought it's only a virtual and not an original "mecca") is not to be missed. It's well worth the experience. I'll be back "home" in December so that's the first place I'm heading.

I agree. I have a cache that I have listed as a multi. Melting Pot I tell you RIGHT UP FRONT on the cache page that the posted coordinates will take you to a veterens memorial where you will use that information to find the coordinates to the next stage. The next stage simply has a slip of paper with the coord's for the final. The so-called "puzzle" is so easy that even a 3rd grader can solve it. I don't consider it any sort of a challenge...hence the reason I did not want it listed as a puzzle or mystery cache. My aim was also to get people to know something about our town and not just run strait into the woods for a tupperware container.

That would DEFINITELY a BAD GEODADDY. Don't forget, the GEOMOMMY still has hormones racing through her body...she might kill you if you are not diligently and faithfully by her side. Hope you have life insurance.

That's exactly what I do. I love seeing new travel bugs/coins coming through my caches. It facinates me with their history...so I discover them and place them back. However, if a tb or a coin has been sitting in one of my caches for an unusually long time, I WILL move it on when I go geocaching. I'd rather see the things move instead of getting moldy for months on end.

In my general life activities, I really try hard to *not* get on the bad side of the law. Sometimes I do...(speeding ticket and a DUI) dumb things that I did which I paid dearly for...and have LEARNED from the experience. Tresspassing doesn't seem like a big deal, but dammit..if you are caught and THEN try to explain that "you were just geocaching" YOU give a bad name to a game that is STILL seriously misunderstood. People that knowingly trespass for anyreason should be strung up into a tree far out in the boonies next to a 5 star cache.

I don't take my dog with me. I don't have a saddle and he's never learned the concept of STAY! or COME! Leashes mean nothing more than a temporary inconvenience for him until he can yank it out of my hand. I do cache with my ferrets though. They make ideal cachemates for me. I don't have to clean up their poo...they don't need to stop every three seconds to mark yet another tree, they love the leash, they'll crawl in those hard to see holes without fear and sometimes drag the cache out with them (unless it's an ammo can) and they have the amazing ability to warn me about animals/reptiles nearby. Their tails puff up to look like a bottle brush and they stop dead in their tracks. They fit quite nice in my vented backpack also.

Everyone is on the honor system. If they post a "find it" for one of my caches and don't mention that they SL...I'm certainly not going to run right down to the cache and check to see if they did in fact sign the log. If people want to get their jolly's for having the most smily faces without actually signing the log or even visiting the actual cache...it's not my problem. I've seen quite a few people with thousands of finds. They very well may be valid...but considering the time factor involved in reaching that number, I'd really have to question if a certain percentage of them aren't "armchair caches". The way that I see it there are no winners in this game IMO. Personal satisfaction and reaching goals are the only incentives I can see for playing, so why quibble? I had a guy leave a note in his log that the pen was missing so he used mud and a sharpened stick to sign. The guy wanted to make sure that he put his mark..I guess to prove that he really was there. However, if the pen was missing, I wouldn't have had a problem at all with them making a mention of it in the log and not signing. I'd either replace it or make a note to bring your own pen. Either way, I wouldn't take the credit away from those people.

I have four kids. Two of them are all for going outside and have no problem geocaching/letterboxing/camping/hiking etc. The other two would rather do ANYTHING other than be outside. I'm not sure what happened. Just the other day, my 14 year old girl had a friend over. The friend mentioned that she had never been camping. I came up with what I thought was a good idea...pitch a tent back in the woods behind our house, complete with fire pit to make mountain pies. My daughter grudgingly gave in and I thought all was well.....until I went to check on them in the middle of the night. I thought I had stepped on a snake on the way back but found that it was a 100 foot extension cord, plugged in to another 100 foot extension cord. That's when I noticed the odd blue light flickering inside the tent. I just had to shake my head...a tv AND the dvd player were inside the tent along with arount 10 dvd's. I guess that's my daughter's idea of *roughing* it. I explained to her friend however, that when we go camping/canoeing in July...these amneties will certainly not be available. Her response? "what are we going to do if we get bored though?"

You brought up a valid point. To *know* the caches in your area before replacing or fixing and to use your common sense. If I see a new cache that is cracked, wet, or missing key items, I just make a note of it in my log that it needs maintenence. However, if for some reason I revisit the cache occasionally, (to drop off T.B's or on my daily walks) I'll re-check it to see if it is has been fixed or if it's getting worse. Only once have I decided to replace the entire container because it has a huge hole in it and it was getting waterlogged. I was going to place another cache at a later time and I happened to have the same type of container in my car. Owner was notified and he was very grateful. I wouldn't dare presume to replace a "specialty cache" though. (Painted, odd shaped, unique containers, those used in a multi...etc.) or one that is *presumed to be missing. (Do I really KNOW that it's missing?)That's ground I won't tread upon. A note for maintenence or a simple DNF is as far as I'll go.

Holy Smoke! Have you ever seen a bobcat? Me thinks that's what the "kitty" looks like.