tazmyers

QR codes are required to state on a published cache that you need one. Ive discussed this with the reviewer and she never did it, she made her changes after my log was placed.

After reading through this thread, I'd simply say that this is the key. There is a new trend in this forum topic to air one's grievances about specific geocachers who become a thorn in one's side. The problem with this is that there is little we can do. I don't know if it is because cachers want the sympathies of someone else in the game, and they think that by posting about issues here they will find that sympathy or support? If you have a concern about a specific cacher, let them know. If it gets nasty, let Groundspeak know (contact@geocaching.com). From there, coming to the forums and airing these grievances does little more than clutter this topic with angst. I'm sorry about being up on a soapbox here, but it is a trend I really wish to see end. How does this even effect you?? There is no need for your soap box. There is no need for your opinion in the way that you have given it. I have asked for the thread to be removed and i am waiting. then it will be gone. As for me airing my problems on here, i am not. I genuinely concerned that this specific cacher is doing more harm then good to anyone on the caching scene. Some people on here understand. if you dont nor see the point on it please dont add to it. it isnt wanted or required.

I'd be reporting the caching group to Facebook. (as long as it's not the wiltshire cachers cause it's not us there nothing like that in our group) they didnt like it when they added me to the group and then saw what i had to say they removed the post. but this is what my freind copied and pasted me before it went. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! why!! are some people so blooming arrogant in their logs no one asks you to go and search for them... in the rain/cold with your kids!! rant over !! 3Maslankas Calm down and have a sherry m'dear..... Best days are nasty weather days....I try to put a weather report in a log when its bad just to let the CO that British weather won't stop me!!! Put the log link up that has made you mad... norfolk12 it was because they had to wait to download a QR reader.. And I hadn't put that on the cache page .{. but had stated that a special tool was needed!! } so how comes they found the bonus which is on a QR ?

Lol thank you. Could you kindly delete the thread now x

the cache owner doesnt see it like that. I am freinds with their daughter who i called at 11pm last night and explained everything i am trying on here, she has told her mum and she is fully aware that something is going on dodgy. I can tell you now that charlie lima and g's log did not take place before that cache was published because mimozakon was FTF and then 5 mins after we were STF! so charlie lima and g never EVER found that log let alone discovered it was missing - an impromptu phone call from charlie lima and g's mother (norfolk12) could have gone - oh i have a cache around the corner that i now can publish because this one is there, log it and then say it needs archiving. ps i have said before but charlie lima and g do NOT live in this area anymore! there is no need for them to come by and then check on a cache they have "already found" to then find the need to log it as a needs archiving x

The CO encrypted it because you gave away the secret of the required tool. .. but I, too, would be peeved if I find a need a smart phone once I get to the cache. Still, what if it wasn't a QR code app? What if it was a ladder, or a widget, something else you didn't have? What if it was in the bush you spent 30 minutes looking for? You know that any cache can turn into a long ordeal so don't drag your kids, out in the cold, without jackets, at night, to chase an FTF, if you aren't prepared to deal with the environment. A lot of people here don't look favorably on the FTF chase so you won't get much sympathy about problems that center around that race. i wasnt looking for a FTF on it, as my log explains i had half an hour to kill so we went and got it as it was down the road from my mums. the whole point was it didnt state i needed a tool, and i was pissed i had to stand around waitingto get a qr reader when she could have politely stated that it was a required tool to find her stupid cache.

I'm not understanding most of what's going on but I have to say I too would be a bit miffed getting to a stage and finding out I need a cell phone with a QR reader. I'd want to know this in advance. The special tools note and attribute is not enough information. To me that means....bring a multitool. thats my point - the special tool note was added after my comment and log was made. x

I am fully aware there is nothing the forum can do, but giving that i thought this was a forum to discus geocaching - which i am doing, i thought i would get someones understanding of the situation instead of the - sorry no can do go moan and cache somewhere else that i am getting. Can not one of you tell me that it doesnt seem suspicious of what that cacher is doing and their family. Ps its easyer said than done caching somewhere else, but as it is we only have puzzle caches left where we live and have already done all of n12s caches.

dont get me wrong i get as a placer also you dont maintain your caches then they will get archived. but they jumped on the bandwagon to get the cache archived so they could place her own multicache/puzzle cache because they could!

Its not that difficult to understand. the link to GC3XQ1M has been published. That cache description was edited at 10pm last night, at 9.30 last night my log was encrypted. You can see it now plain as day - here I go in the log stating that I had two freezing cold children standing by the side of a river waiting for a QR reader to download on my phone - had i been told in the cache description that i needed a QR reader then I WOULD HAVE DOWNLOADED ONE TO SAVE TIME!! i stated it would have been polite to say you needed this. When CO edited the description last night it didnt say specialist equipment would be required. If you look for the cache sneaky beaky which was 0.05 miles away from it originally before it was published - it was high jacked by charlie lima and g and raggled robin. Charlie lima and g is norfolk12's daughter - she also doesnt live in the area anymore to report on a needs maintance. Raggled robin is an alias used by norfolk12. Co-incidence that norfolk12 wants to publish a cache that she had placed there (8a) in sept yet in august sneaky beaky was placed there making it not possible to publish 8a. so norfolk12s daughter and her own alias bullys down a cacher getting it archived and in the space of 4 days publishes her 8a cache because the one in question is no longer a problem!!!!! Norfolk12s grandson - little fair bear - LFB has a lot of caches out there also. Once specific cache that is sat across the road from me isnt where it says it is. Stone pit park - a home to roost. It was somewhere fine, it was then moved, punblished then it had to be moved as area person castragli (sp) said it was to close to another cache. LFB then goes oh yes its moved back then - the cache is where it got moved to. not where he says it is. This whole family of daughters, grandsons/daughters and alias's ANNOYS THE LIVING HELL OUT OF ME!! they go round ruling our local area - her caches are shockingly out of co-ords (by 70ft at least one of them) yet when EVERYONE SAYS CO-ORDS ARE WRONG its us that should use a gps or a better smart phone to find the cache that she has placed!!! In another instance, LFB logged a FTF on a cache that was published and missing within the same day then replaced the next with me and another cacher getting ftf and stf when LFB log stood at the top when we had just seen Norfolk12 replace that exact cache without her grandson!!!!! Its like oh ive got to replace a cache - do you want FTF on it without doing the work on it scott?? Why should one family manipulate one caching area again!!!

Is this because of the hassle you've been having? no i am quite happy in posting what the cache was about should it be a story or an experience worth while talking about. you will see on a cache what it is i am talking about and understand that where. for those who now feel the need to slate me for writing tftc. i have two children and 99% of the time i dont have the time to write a giant story..... thats just my thing. for caches that are fun and i enjoy i write about. x

erm excuse me. 10 out of 11 were edited because we put for example #447.... it gets confusing what number your on when your out in the field!! not exactly any of your business why i edit my logs but hopefully that should satisfy your curiosity. ps i am not talking about any of my caches being archived. its not in relation to any of my caches found or placed.

CO has been called by many cachers over their co-ords. in their words, "maybe you should use a gps as it is more accurate than a smartphone".

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING!! thank you xx No problem. we're in the same (ish) area (southern england) and i am currently trying to look through your caches or logs at the moment i can't see complaints on your caches. maybe you could give us a nudge in the right direction? EDIT: just seen it's not on your caches. will go through the caches you've found I have private messaged you

THATS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING!! thank you xx

right ok A) theres one cache that we have gotten recently that after we placed our log the cacher encrypted our log so it couldnt be read. without reason. B)this cache that we have gotten recently has been placed within 0.05 miles of another cache that was that much away. C) this cache was jumped on by 1) the manipulative cachers daughter who doesnt live in the area. 2) known alias of the manipulative cacher that decided one day to question of on my finds. D)the manipulative cachers grandchild has caches out there that have been lied about the actual position of them. E) the cache that was archived (yes should have been maintained, but when two people jump on the cache its difficult to get there - life gets in the way) - this was not a cache of mine. The whole family seems to think they can lie their way through geocaching.

I dont know what the cacher didnt like. I wont state what I wrote because then you will know which cache i am talking about lol the cache in question is something that would need questioning over its type anyway. the manipulative cachers dauughter and the alias cacher that ive had a run in with the past are the ones who requested archiving of this specific cache. Yes maintance should have been done, but the whole point of this seems as though "oh i want to place and publish a cache in that area, this one hasnt been looked after recently lets jump on the band wagon and get it archived so we can place our own cache here" type thing.

So I am new to the forums as I have just about had enough of the hassle one specific cacher gives me. I wont name and shame unless others start saying I know exactly who you are talking about and i have the same problem also. This cacher is just down right evil. we have had issues with them in the past where we know they were using an alias cacher name to question one of our finds, recently we went to get one of their caches and boom, problems again. Incorrect listing/negligence to politeness. Encrypting of our log - then it gets worse. We know that this specific cacher has several family cachers also and the cache that we got recently was within 0.05miles of a previous cache that was archived. The cache was archived after a family member AND this alias we have had problems with both jumped on the band wagon and thus got it archived. But within 4 days of this happening the cacher in question gets their cache published. I might mention that this family member of theirs doesnt even live in the area anymore. You might not see it personally everywhere, but this cacher is cyber-bullying. Ganging up on a cacher to place your own cache there is just disgusting. Getting your family member to help create problems. They arent a new cacher, they are well seasoned and with this you would have thought some knowledge would have been gained it to play this GAME. But no, from this they have learnt how to manipulate and bully others which is really harsh. Giving they are well seasoned, you would think they know how to place caches as well, but every single cache we have (and several other cacher freinds have logged) the co-ords have been out, and not just by a bit but a LOT. The cacher has grandchildren who do caching also, and even one of their grandchildren have started lying about the position of a cache just so they can have a cache out there. Why is this allowed and why does it happen?? We are all here for the same thing yet its cachers like this who make others feel insignificant.