Desert Warrior

No, mapping was not part of his job. I suspect it was the love of the Arabian landscape that enticed him in to doing it. A case of putting something back in return for the enjoyment he received. Anyway lets see if we can tickle a reply out of him on this one.

And we hope you don't. It is good to have you visiting all the sites. Including GPS coordinates may have a downside, it means that travellers will no longer need to visit Geocaching.com to set their GPS. It will need someone with the dedication of Lord Jimbo before another travel book will benefit from such good maps. They are not easy but a lot of fun to produce.

Hey hey hey. Walz the upmarket mover. What floor are you going to.

Welcome to the fun Medtech. Most caches were set with a Discovery in the team and so all caches are available to you. The Discovery will get you to places where other 4WD give up. Conversely they pack-up where 2WD just keep on rolling.

Wild Rover has reported "The Kettle" cache as missing. We have therefore temporarily disabled the cache until we investigate further. If it is lost we will archive the cache. In the meantime we have removed the "member’s only" status so that anyone may look at this superb location before it is lost to the archive.

Yep, I paid up to put something back into the activity. I have set a cracking MOC pour encourage les autres and it has attracted at least two other people to cough up the anti. Most caches are still open to all.

The tap line road from Al Ammariyah to Acacia Valley (Edge of the World) is now blocked by a gate about 3kms from Acacia Valley. A track leads from the tap line road to the main road through a small village. 2WD owners may prefer to take a metalled road a few kilometres before the locked gate.

Hey we take our kidding very seriously indeed. There is nothing wrong with setting a challenging cache it gives us real men a good training run out. I am little disappointed though after having spent some time looking for your cache in order to sign the log to realise all I needed to do was get to the top. Perhaps that is why you left an empty cache at Box Canyon Overlook. ... presumably not leaving your compound will not impede your enjoyment of geocaching you can bag the lot without even leaving your keyboard. I will swap you a nice one in South Africa for one worth bagging in Hawaii.

quote:Originally posted by swdecato:I support Wild Rover (and I placed the cache). He found the flag. He experienced the panic of the location. I'd say he earned the "been there, done that badge". Steve, You set the cache. If your intention was just for people to climb the hill then why make the cache so difficult to find? You should reset it in a 1*/2* location.

About three times longer than I promised was my limit.

I find this thread more intellectually stimulating than the one entitled "Intentional Deletion". Keep up the good work.

Walheed, Is you gallery virtual or is there somewhere you can visit.

The route up the escarpment to Abu Jifan Fort, as described in Ionis Thompson's book, is now extremely difficult. There is a paved road to its east which leaves the last 30kms not too difficult off road driving. Relates to cache - Beau Jest(GC73AE)

At the Edge of the World a fence has been built across the entrance to the final wadi. It has two gates through it one enabling access into the Edge of the World wadi and the second enabling access to the pipeline road. At the time of writing the fence is not complete and the gates are open. Many suggest this will be a fence of the type that permits access to animals. I don't believe so. If the gates are closed it may not be long before an alternative path is established over the spurs at each end of the fence. Relates to cache Edge of the World (GCB33D).

There is a new fence around Lake Karrarah. The fence allows animals (and people) but not vehicles to pass through. A perimeter track has already been established around it. The track is very powdery creating dust clouds but passable. An update. The fence is not complete along the bottom and there doesn't look like any intention of doing so. The two gates along the top of the fence are open. [This message was edited by Desert Warrior on January 03, 2003 at 03:20 AM.]

The river at Al Hair is fordable with a route kept open through the reeds by vehicle use (the old Red Car Ford is now closed by reeds). We have removed the boulder that caused some vehicles to stall. The river is fairly deep and a saloon could not make it. It is not a place to get stuck and if you are not used to wading don't attempt it without other vehicles for recovery. Note the first water you cross takes you to an island and this is not apparent until you try and get off!

A board to let you inform navigators of changes of which they should be aware.

quote: "huff and puff" I am not a fan of too many over challenging caches because we need to encourage more people to partcipate. I believe the two major turn-offs are a cache not found or an approach that is too diffcult (and this includes for 2WD owners). However the current award holders are: Despite being bagged by the Red Admiral family I believe the "huff and puff" award is currently held by "Alter of Arleah". If you can differentiate between "Whoosh Splat" awards then the most spectacular must be "Wounded Knee". The current "Urmmm Urmmm Pop Pop Phiss" award for the most difficult drive (excluding the Empty Quarter, i.e. for a day-out bag) is held by "Stewed Rabbit" and it can be done without bottoming out. “Forlorn Outpost” probably holds the “Oh my Gosh Stop” award for a passenger wobbling approach. (This award is for the cache that looks more spectacular than it is) The "Splash Splash" award currently goes to the Sea of Birds.

Wounded Knee is a whoosh splat. Hangover is not difficult but the consequence of an accident are more of a bump, bump, woof, errr, splat!

Hey Walz, Of the caches you haven’t recorded as being bagged: Hidden Valley and Martin’s Fall were specifically set to allow access to 2WD. Hair of the Dammed and Hangover are on good tracks easily traversable by 2WD. I have seen 2WDs at Zenda Road and End of the World. If you don’t mind wading a pongy river “Sea of Birds” is available. and so on.

Maybe a little obvious, but before setting out print the cache page and take it with you. [This message was edited by Desert Warrior on October 12, 2002 at 05:40 PM.]

Not a problem. the default for an unsupported icon is the wee black square.

The logbook-only caches do have their place. The obvious one has been stated where size makes it awkward, particularly for those finding the cache. Another is where the locals were unhappy about hidden objects though quite happy with just a notebook. I am not an avid fan of swap-outs but I avoid setting log-book only caches because I enjoy travel bugs passing through and at once cache I found there were sweeties… I wonder if I could go back and bag it twice!

Now that Garmin have introduced a "Geocache" (a treasure chest) and "Geocache Found" (treasure chest with open lid)) symbol it would be helpful if when downloading caches from the web site to the GPS the "Geocache" symbol was the default rather than the square representing a waypoint.

Yes I got it. Many thanks. I have replied to it. If you don't receive it look south for the smoke signals. I taken your advice.