Scout65

The flares are really spectacular, although short lived. By using the Heavens-Above.com predictions I’ve seen four of the flares in the daytime and a dozen or so at night. Someone said they last from 5-20 seconds, I don’t think I’ve seen any of them last for more than 5 seconds although I’ve never timed them.

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Usually when searching with other cachers one of us will just holler out that we’ve found it, except for when we encounter a uniquely camouflaged cache, in that case everyone gets to have a stab at finding it. If there are young children in the group we’ll find the container and then steer them towards it so they can find it *first*. No matter who finds it everyone who made the trip (account or no account) signs the log book and the registered cachers log online.

GPS = Global Positioning System. That includes everything; Satellites, Ground Stations, Hardware, Software ect., and your Receiver. GPSr = Global Positioning System Receiver. You would use *GPSr* when referring only to your receiver, “My GPSr was showing 50’ away from the cache”.

I don't have a laptop or a PDA so what I do is copy the cache page and paste it in a word processing program then delete all the unwanted information and graphics. As a result you should be able to get at least seven descriptions per page. Typically this is what I would print. Shelby's Loot by Rod & Shelby N 39° 52.214 W 089° 36.932 Difficulty:1 Terrain:1 Depending on the trail you take will make a difference in the difficulty rating. You may have to leave the main trail to find this one! The cache container is a green ammo box. Additional Hints The others will get you there but high point is the place to be! Look at the base of the fallen one!

How’s this for a first day of caching? My mom has been wanting to see what this Geocaching thing is all about so Sunday she came with Mdmax371 and I on a little trip to the Quincy Illinois area. Before we left I had her register a screen name so she could log the caches that we would find that day. Here’s the breakdown on GrandmaTa2’s first day of caching: *Twelve total caches, *Four micros, *one multi-stage, and *Two night finds. Pretty impressive first day in my opinion. Way to go mom,, I mean GrandmaTa2. Any other first day stories out there?

"Any Carpenters Most of you guys are affilliated in computers with your jobs. Isn't there any other geocaching carpenters in here besides me. I would like to read a log one day that says " After building a house all day in the freezing cold, (or the blazing heat) I went and found this really cool cache." I guess for now though there just isn't that many geocaching Carpenters." Hey, glad to hear there's at least one other carpenter/geocacher. I'm a carpenter working out of local#16 in Springfield Il

You definitely would want to check with airport managers first. After you explain the concept to them though, I would guess that a lot of them would have no problem with it. The atmosphere at the smaller municipal airports is usually a lot more laid back than at the regional airports. I don’t think too many terrorist would be interested in blowing up a few single engine Cessnas. My cache (refer to the original post) happens to be a virtual but I would have no problem placing a traditional cache there.

a cache at a private strip would be considered too commercial. As long as you don’t charge a landing fee it wouldn’t be any different than placing a cache on private property with the land owners permission. The pilot would still have to call ahead to get permission to land on the private strip though, wouldn’t they?

Does anyone know of any caches (virtual or traditional) that are located at any of the small, municipal airports around the midwest? One of my caches,Tribute to Military Aviation, is located at the Logan County Airport (AAA) in Lincoln Il. Wouldn't be nice to be able to incorporate caching with a fuel stop? Or just take off on a caching trip?

with Skydiver, it looks like his hotel is doing fine without the *bug for a bug* rule. Someone might be forced to pass up an opportunity to help a bug achieve it’s goal, only because they didn’t have a trader. In this case, it looks to me like an empty cache is a successful cache.

I'm not sure that I see what the purpose is either. Maybe just another way to keep track of visited caches I guess. Who knows? As long as they are having fun with it that's all that matters I suppose. It would make it a little more interesting to have a photo or two with each log, but then again, it’s more for their entertainment not ours.

I'm not sure that I see what the purpose is either. Maybe just another way to keep track of visited caches I guess. Who knows? As long as they are having fun with it that's all that matters I suppose. It would make it a little more interesting to have a photo or two with each log, but then again, it’s more for their entertainment not ours.

You should have left it in the same place that you found it. Maybe cover it up better if it was right out in the open when you found it, but definitely don’t move it to another location. Judging by the record of the hider (188 finds- 10 hides) they know a good cache location when they see it. They checked on it July 5th and it was fine, and before that another cacher couldn’t find it. Another way to handle it is to email the owner with your concerns, and even offer to move it for them if they agree that there may be a problem. The above advice is only my opinion. Now go find some more caches and don't let it get you down [This message was edited by Scout65 on July 21, 2002 at 01:37 PM.]

You should have left it in the same place that you found it. Maybe cover it up better if it was right out in the open when you found it, but definitely don’t move it to another location. Judging by the record of the hider (188 finds- 10 hides) they know a good cache location when they see it. They checked on it July 5th and it was fine, and before that another cacher couldn’t find it. Another way to handle it is to email the owner with your concerns, and even offer to move it for them if they agree that there may be a problem. The above advice is only my opinion. Now go find some more caches and don't let it get you down [This message was edited by Scout65 on July 21, 2002 at 01:37 PM.]

Man that Shrimp Newburg looks good, I'll have to try it. Try this one out, I make 2 40 qt. pots of it every year before Christmas for the guys at work. Three years ago I skipped it because I thought maybe they were getting tired of the same thing, so I made Chicken and Shrimp Jambalaya instead. Now I have to make a 40 of each. KEILBASA SAUSAGE SOUP 1 head cabbage, chopped 3 pounds keilbasa sausage, sliced bite size 2 cups onions, chopped 6 potatoes, cubed small 2 10 3/4 ounce cans beef broth 2 10 3/4 ounce cans beef consumè 2 15 oz. cans red kidney beans 2 cups catsup 2 teaspoons black pepper 1 teaspoon salt 2 teaspoons garlic powder Combine all ingrediants in large pot. Add water as desired (1 qt. +-) Slow cook over low to medium heat until cabbage and potatoes are done. Yeilds approx. 7 quarts

Andrewcali, I agree with Olar, probably not a real good idea. How about some little science experiment books instead? Jeez, what if they decided to do the *bright red flame* experiment right there on the spot, and something went wrong and there were injuries? Could that be a possible liability nightmare for you? Yep, I would suggest to error on the side of safety.

Alright jwest, time for me to swallow my pride. The name calling was wrong, and I apologize to you for that. The threat to mail your bug to Africa was also wrong. In fact, if I were to intentionally do anything to disrupt the successful outcome of it, I would have deserved to have my geocaching privileges yanked. You made some good points that I should have given you credit for. If you do decide to visit Cache on The Kickapoo I hope that you will show it the same respect as any other cache site. If it gets vandalized or tossed in the river(no, you didn't say that was your plan, but I'm assuming, hopefully incorrectly, that it was) it really doesn’t affect me much, it can be replaced for under ten bucks. But some people travel a long way to go caching and for them to waste their time and money looking for something that isn’t there would make them a victim of our dispute, and that would be a shame. Again, I apologize for any of the statements that I made that were offensive to you. So, that said, I wish you good luck and happy caching. Scout65 a.k.a. Rick

Alright jwest, time for me to swallow my pride. The name calling was wrong, and I apologize to you for that. The threat to mail your bug to Africa was also wrong. In fact, if I were to intentionally do anything to disrupt the successful outcome of it, I would have deserved to have my geocaching privileges yanked. You made some good points that I should have given you credit for. If you do decide to visit Cache on The Kickapoo I hope that you will show it the same respect as any other cache site. If it gets vandalized or tossed in the river(no, you didn't say that was your plan, but I'm assuming, hopefully incorrectly, that it was) it really doesn’t affect me much, it can be replaced for under ten bucks. But some people travel a long way to go caching and for them to waste their time and money looking for something that isn’t there would make them a victim of our dispute, and that would be a shame. Again, I apologize for any of the statements that I made that were offensive to you. So, that said, I wish you good luck and happy caching. Scout65 a.k.a. Rick

What a great idea with the rockets and the kids, they’ll have a great time. Sort of takes me back to my own rocket building days. Yep,, like it or not you got yourself a new hobby, and my prediction still stands, you’ll be spending more of your outdoors time on geocaching than some of other hobbies.

Madonenm, Welcome. I am by no means an *old timer* to this activity, I’ve only been at it for a couple of months, and only have 9 finds (I think), but I guess I’m qualified to welcome you. You sound like the outdoors kind of person so I have a feeling this will pass up some of your other hobbies. Going with your wife will be fun, but if you have kids in your family wait till you see their reaction when they find a “hidden treasure full of goodies”. Good luck and have fun. Scout65 a.k.a Rick

Jwest420, you post an insulting reply to me and then tell me to not respond? Well that aint gonna happen captain. I'll reply to whomever I want, whenever I want. Stellartrinity, thanks for the support, but my original post was worded exactly the way I wanted. I felt that jwest420 needed to understand that he is free to do whatever he wants with his bug. I didn't want the "in a word, no" answer to go undebated. You are right, I have tried very hard to be polite to jwest420 that is until now, and it's been difficult. Jwest420, I showed you the ruling from the main dude (Jeremy) and you still think I'm wrong? I don't get it, I'm thoroughly convinced now that my reference to you as a *bone head * is accurate. Why don't you fire off a message to Jeremy and tell him that he is wrong? Then, let all of the Travel Bug owners know that YOU would like to see some rules made on what they can and cannot do with THEIR bugs, you'll make a lot of friends that way. What people do with them is their bussiness, not yours. As for your question "if your bug bounces around Australia for awhile then gets brought back to the United States should you get credit for the miles since your bug only got there in the first place by you mailing it." Well, it's goal is to travel around in Australia, so there is really no reason for someone to bring it back here. But if a cacher did retreive it from a cache in Australia and then personally place in a cache here, then yes the miles would count. But again, I'm not the least bit intrested in the miles count. I repeatedly wished you good luck with your bug, but now you better include an instruction with it to avoid Illinois, Missouri, and Indiana, because if I see it anywhere around here I'm gonna grab it, put a stamp on it's forehead, and send it to straight to Africa. [This message was edited by Scout65 on June 18, 2002 at 01:58 PM.]

Jwest420, you post an insulting reply to me and then tell me to not respond? Well that aint gonna happen captain. I'll reply to whomever I want, whenever I want. Stellartrinity, thanks for the support, but my original post was worded exactly the way I wanted. I felt that jwest420 needed to understand that he is free to do whatever he wants with his bug. I didn't want the "in a word, no" answer to go undebated. You are right, I have tried very hard to be polite to jwest420 that is until now, and it's been difficult. Jwest420, I showed you the ruling from the main dude (Jeremy) and you still think I'm wrong? I don't get it, I'm thoroughly convinced now that my reference to you as a *bone head * is accurate. Why don't you fire off a message to Jeremy and tell him that he is wrong? Then, let all of the Travel Bug owners know that YOU would like to see some rules made on what they can and cannot do with THEIR bugs, you'll make a lot of friends that way. What people do with them is their bussiness, not yours. As for your question "if your bug bounces around Australia for awhile then gets brought back to the United States should you get credit for the miles since your bug only got there in the first place by you mailing it." Well, it's goal is to travel around in Australia, so there is really no reason for someone to bring it back here. But if a cacher did retreive it from a cache in Australia and then personally place in a cache here, then yes the miles would count. But again, I'm not the least bit intrested in the miles count. I repeatedly wished you good luck with your bug, but now you better include an instruction with it to avoid Illinois, Missouri, and Indiana, because if I see it anywhere around here I'm gonna grab it, put a stamp on it's forehead, and send it to straight to Africa. [This message was edited by Scout65 on June 18, 2002 at 01:58 PM.]

Markwell, I couldn't agree with you more. Alright, I said that my last post would probably be my last on the subject, well I’ll have to at least post one more. I wanted to get an opinion on this subject from someone who IS an authority so I presented the Question to Jeremy. He makes the rules. I will first share with you the question that I asked him, word for word, nothing left out, so that you don’t think I worded the question to get the answer I wanted. I will then share with you his response, again word for word so you don’t think I’m, as you say, twisting it to fit my scenario. Then if you still can’t get the point I was trying to make through your thick skull then I hold out no hope for you. Okay, here was my question: “Jeremy, As the moderator of the discussion forums I would like to get a ruling from you on a matter. I have a travel bug "Bouncing Around Australia" whose only goal is to travel around in Australia. I wasn't interested in seeing it move around here, in the US and possibly not even getting to Australia so I contacted a fellow cacher in Australia and they agreed to release it for me in that country. My question to you is this: Is mailing a Travel Bug to a remote starting point acceptable or does this go against the rules or spirit of the Travel Bug concept? Is it only acceptable for the owner of the bug to release it in a cache personally? Thanks for your time, Scout 65 a.k.a. Rick” Alright, now here is his response. “I don't see any problems with mailing it as long as it originates at the destination. Placing a bug in a cache in Austrailia and mailing it to the US doesn't seem fair, but really since the travel bug is owned by someone, it is up to them to decide how to have it move. I know that some folks don't want to have theirs fly, for example. Jeremy” So there you go, I will be sleeping much better tonight knowing that the Travel Bug Police will not be confiscating my bug when it touches down on Australian soil. [This message was edited by Scout65 on June 17, 2002 at 06:03 PM.]

Markwell, I couldn't agree with you more. Alright, I said that my last post would probably be my last on the subject, well I’ll have to at least post one more. I wanted to get an opinion on this subject from someone who IS an authority so I presented the Question to Jeremy. He makes the rules. I will first share with you the question that I asked him, word for word, nothing left out, so that you don’t think I worded the question to get the answer I wanted. I will then share with you his response, again word for word so you don’t think I’m, as you say, twisting it to fit my scenario. Then if you still can’t get the point I was trying to make through your thick skull then I hold out no hope for you. Okay, here was my question: “Jeremy, As the moderator of the discussion forums I would like to get a ruling from you on a matter. I have a travel bug "Bouncing Around Australia" whose only goal is to travel around in Australia. I wasn't interested in seeing it move around here, in the US and possibly not even getting to Australia so I contacted a fellow cacher in Australia and they agreed to release it for me in that country. My question to you is this: Is mailing a Travel Bug to a remote starting point acceptable or does this go against the rules or spirit of the Travel Bug concept? Is it only acceptable for the owner of the bug to release it in a cache personally? Thanks for your time, Scout 65 a.k.a. Rick” Alright, now here is his response. “I don't see any problems with mailing it as long as it originates at the destination. Placing a bug in a cache in Austrailia and mailing it to the US doesn't seem fair, but really since the travel bug is owned by someone, it is up to them to decide how to have it move. I know that some folks don't want to have theirs fly, for example. Jeremy” So there you go, I will be sleeping much better tonight knowing that the Travel Bug Police will not be confiscating my bug when it touches down on Australian soil. [This message was edited by Scout65 on June 17, 2002 at 06:03 PM.]