Wadcutter
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That seems like a very obvious guideline violation and I have a very hard time believing a reviewer would actually let that fly.
There were several of us who believed it to be an obvious commercial cache and posted NAs. The reviewer disagreed.
Some reviewers aren't as bright as others. Remember there's no intelligence test or background check to become a reviewer.
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There use to be a cache nearby that was at a winery. The cache was hidden in the winery's outdoor party area. The area was fenced so the only way to get to the cache was thru the winery sales area and only when the winery was open. The CO was one of the winery owners. In the cache description they had included a note to be sure to pick up a bottle of their wine. Some complained this was a commercial cache. The reviewer disagreed saying no one forced you to buy anything therefore it wasn't a commercial cache. His view for what made a commercial cache was if you were forced to buy something.
The winery didn't stay open long and went out of business.
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The throwdown crew from St Louis/St Charles MO was in the area yesterday and logged 33 "finds". Over 25% of their 'finds' were throwdowns which is typical of their caching ventures.
They even thank the cache owner for placing the cache and replacing it until the cache owner can replace. Except the cache owner has been around for 2 years.
Here's one of their logs:
(St Louis MO Throwdown #1)
Charter Member
18018
Found it Found it 05/06/2015
Caching with (St Charles MO Throwdown #2) on a trip toward Jacksonville, IL. After two PAFs we knew what to look for and where it was. The cache was missing so we left a temporary and smaller replacement in an easy to find location. Signed log (Throwdown 1/2/3) for brevity. Good job. Thanks, (cache owner), for placing this cache. – (Throwndown 1 & 3), St. Louis MO
(St Louis MO Throwdown #2)
Premium Member
16229
Found it Found it 05/06/2015
Geocaching with (Throwdown # 1, 3) still trying to get to Jacksonville, IL, logging caches as "(Throwndown 1/2/3)" to be brief. We agreed with (another cacher who logged DNF) -- this one was missing -- after making a couple of PAF calls to previous finders. We left a temporary replacement in plain sight until the owner can make other arrangements. Thanks, (cache owner), for placing this cache! -- (Throwndown #2), Saint Charles, MO.
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We had a local cacher who was psycho. He hid a bunch of trash type caches that were made from flimsy containers in really lame locations. The containers were always falling apart from the weather and use and were being removed by muggles because they were often visible to anyone walking by. If you mentioned in a log anything like the log was wet or the container was falling apart and needed maintenance he would send a PM full of swear words, call into question your parentage, and tell you to commit a certain act with yourself. I ran into him one time on a cache hunt and it was very obvious the guy was truly nuts. He had 2 kids with him who looked like they were his kids and they were just as weird. He finally archived all his caches saying he was tired of other cachers being rude to him and posting insulting comments in their logs. I went thru all his caches and read the logs. Only thing 'rude' (in his opinion) were logs mentioning his caches needed maintenance and giving a reason why. When he archived his caches in 2011 he wrote he was quitting caching because of the rude people and it doesn't appear he's logged on since. No loss to the caching world.
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Throwdown Cacher to Get the Numbers
Premium Member
8980
Found it Found it 05/23/2014
With a previous finder who said its missing! I replaced! Hope the CO doesn't mind! Can't have a missing cache on way to GWXII
Honest No Find Cacher 1
Premium Member
1596
Didn't find it Didn't find it 04/12/2014
I cannot find this cache either. Is this missing?
Honest No Find Cacher 2
Premium Member
915
Didn't find it Didn't find it 04/05/2014
Found a fence post cap that came off at one of my GZ but nothing there. :-(
Honest No Find Cacher 3
Member
205
Didn't find it Didn't find it 04/04/2014
Well, I went back & looked again. "Walked the line" for at least 50' each side of GZ, poking my nose into everything I could think of & all I found was THIS. If it's here, it's too well hidden for me
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Found itFound it..but was not able to sign log due to height issues (or lack of in my case).
I use to have a cache that was clearly visible from the ground but required some figuring how to get to it. It was rated a 1.5/3. It wasn't complicated but you had to have the right, simple equipment to get to it. In the hint I even told them what kind of tools to bring. They only had to figure out how to use those tools which was different than the tools normal use. One cacher logged a find saying she could see it but couldn't figure out how to retrieve the cache. Several had been able to sign the log previously. I sent her an email asking she change her 'find' to a note as she had no signed the log. She replied that she could not figure out how to get to the cache and I should let her claim it as a find. I pointed out the rating and it wasn't intended to be a park and grab. She refused to change her find so I deleted her find. She sent me an email questioning my parentage and other string of words I can't print here. You'd have thought I had killed and eaten her puppy.
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I took the trash out at home on that day. Can I claim it as attended to your CITO event?
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The only thing that really bothers me about these is not being sure that I'm on the right property. If the lots are not very big it's hard to be sure the coordinates (both from the hider's GPS and my own) are accurate enough. I've been in the next door neighbor's yard before I figured out it was the wrong yard, and once even looked in the neighbor's mailbox.
There was this cache near me. After it was archived following this cacher's log the cache owner posted updated cords which were off by over 1/4 mile.
06/20/2009Super bad coords!!!
Farmer chased us off with a shot gun,
looked like he was going nuts about people
walking around his yard.
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Reviewer
Temporarily Disable Listing Temporarily Disable Listing
08/29/2014
Based on the previous logs, I'm temporarily disabling this cache. When the owner checks in, if it is replaced, they can re-enable the cache by posting an 'enable' log to the cache page. If the cache owner does not contact me by posting a note on this page by September 11, I'll assume the cache needs to be archived.
(honest cacher 3)
Premium Member
385
Needs Archived Needs Archived
08/26/2014
Wondering if CO is paying attention.....
(honest cacher 2)
Member
54
Didn't find it Didn't find it
08/02/2014
Nope!! No find here
(honest cacher 1)
Premium Member
91
Needs Maintenance Needs Maintenance
07/16/2014
Found hook and nothing else!!
(2nd hook finder)
Member
1
Found it Found it
02/12/2014
It was fun and easy to find! First time going:)
(hook finder)
Premium Member
385
Needs Maintenance Needs Maintenance
01/14/2014
Cup hook is there, no container.
(hook finder)
Premium Member
385
Found it Found it
01/14/2014
Considering it found because we found the cup hook in the side of a tree which pictures in the gallery make us confident was the container site.
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Visiting TN from Denver. Can't find a cache? No problem. Throw one down and then find it - twice. Got to get those numbers somehow to get to 81000+ finds. Then post a "Thanks" for finding your own throwdown?
Double Finder Throwdown cacher
Charter Member
81095
Found it Found it 07/24/2014
Visiting from Denver, This one appears to be MIA so I left a temporary replacement until cache owner can check up on it. SL. Thanks!
Double Finder Throwdown cacher
Charter Member
81095
Found it Found it 07/24/2014
Visiting from Denver, This one appears to be MIA so I left a temporary replacement until cache owner can check up on it. SL. Thanks!
View Log
Honest cacher
Member
8
Didn't find it Didn't find it 06/18/2014
If it was on the guardrail it's probably gone now. Rail got smashed
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The photo posted by Lid Finder is just laying on the ground.
Honest Cacher # 1
Member
16
Didn't find it Didn't find it 05/18/2014
Could not find cache!!! Hasn't been found since November 13
Lid Finder
Premium Member
1171
Needs Maintenance Needs Maintenance
11/25/2013
Found lid and nothing else. Pic attached to other log entry.
Same Lid Finder
Premium Member
1171
Found it Found it 11/25/2013
Found the lid, but no container/ log. Does that count?
(Photo)
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A few months ago we found a Tupperware cache where someone had left a handful of candy pieces. We removed all the candy and posted in our log that we had removed the food items. We got a nasty email from the person who had left the candy that "Candy isn't food. It's not like a sandwich."
You can't argue with stupid.
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Found it
TFTC
Met caretaker. Replaced cache and log. All should be good now.
Except the cache wasn't missing. This is an off-set puzzle cache. This Throwdown Cacher only went to the starting location and threw down a cache. They either never tried solving the puzzle or they never read the clues to solve the puzzle. By throwing down a container this placed 2 containers within 100 ft of each other - the throwdown cache and the real cache.
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To the OP: Just FYI and a heads up if you aren't aware.
Google your ham call sign. You'll find there's a lot of info available on the web that identifies you more than you may want.
If that's OK with you then at least it's your choice. If you don't want to be so readily identified who you really are then you might want to change your user name.
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This guy is constantly complaining that a cache should be archived if several haven't found it or if he thinks a cache has been around too long.
(Throwdown Cacher)
Premium Member
2815
Found it Found it
10/19/2013
Replaced for CO...if original is found I will remove find. Tftc
(Throwdown)
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then gave me the "sobriety test". Are you kidding me? It was 11 a.m., Sunday morning, had the dog with me, way out in the boonies just off the freeway. Just another one that gives a warm and fuzzy feeling--not.
Sunday mornings are a great time to find DUI drivers. You'd be surprised, and probably a bit scared, if you knew just how many people driving on a Sunday morning as still drunk from the night before.
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From the sat view it appears the cache is hidden along a public walk alongside a river. The description on the cache page is definitely an ad for the home but I've seen a lot more abuse of commercial caches and reviewers allowed them after pointing them out.
There use to be one at a local winery where the only way to get to the cache was to go through the winery's gift shop to their courtyard. The cache description was mostly about trying their wines. Reviewer responded that it was OK because there were no fees charged and it was open for public access.
Another cache was hidden under the entrance door threshold in a gift shop. The only way to retrieve the cache was to open the screen door and you were then only 3-4 feet from the cash register. Reviewer let it stay because the cache owner said someone could get to the cache when the business was closed therefore the reviewer didn't consider it commercial.
Another local one was a very rural cheese shop at a dairy where the cache was hidden on a bench next to the entrance door of the business. The cache description was mostly about their various cheeses and said to take some home after finding the cache. The reviewer said it wasn't commercial because no one forced anyone to buy the cheese.
Some reviewers are better than other.
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They just keep 'discovering' it. It looks like they're all from Sweden.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 Phony Swede Finder #18) discovered it
Saw it on facebook
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #17) discovered it
Saw it in magazine.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #16) discovered it
Saw it in a magsine.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #15) discovered it
Seen in the news
Discovered It 09/20/2013 Phony Swede Finder #14) discovered it
Saw it on facebook.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #13) discovered it
Spotted on facebook.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #12)discovered it
Saw it on FB
Write note 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #11) posted a note for it
I used the wrong type of log at first. My bad. Seen in a swedish magazine
Write note 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #10) posted a note for it
Sett på FB men väntar att logga till jag sett den i verklighet.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #9) discovered it
Seen in a magazine
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #8) discovered it
...a magazine
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #7) discovered it
på FB
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #6) discovered it
saw it
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #5) discovered it
Seen in an magasin.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #4) discovered it
Saw it on the net.
Discovered It 09/20/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #3) discovered it
Saw it in a picture on a magazine page on Facebook
Discovered It 09/19/2013 (Phony Swede Finder #2) discovered it
...in a magazine
Retrieve It from a Cache 03/10/2013 (Current TB Holder) retrieved it from (A Cache) California
Grabbed Rusty to use for a Girl Scout Geocaching presentation. We'll get him back on his way next weekend.
Discovered It 10/21/2012 (Phony Swede Finder #1) discovered it
Seen in a 3 year old Swedish magazine. The TB was photographed with the code visible in an article from October 2009. The magazine in question is printed for forest owners and entrepreneurs and has a print of 40 000 plus. Thx for sharing!
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No, munzees are not geocaches. It is an entirely different game and website all based on racking up points by scanning QR codes. Many munzee players, many of whom are also geocachers, place their game pieces in, on, or very near geocaches which causes a good deal of confusion.
I'll explain it again. The munzee at the location I identified had the GC code on it. Without the GC code I would not have known why it was at that location or what it was. I then read the munzee and it explained it was that cache and how to log it as a find.
I know there's a munzee game separate from geocaching. However the munzee I found was identified as being geocache.com. Was it a munzee throwdown? Must have been.
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To any one that has been to my cache A Gated Sitution at a Rest Area GC2HBCH. I know of NO munzees or anything of the sort as I don't do them. There is a REAL container on site with a LOG and I will remove the munzee if I can find it.
The munzee was tied to fence to the about 6 ft west of the gate. Scanning the munzee it referred to the cache ID and how to log it. If you didn't place it then someone else went to a lot of trouble preparing it and placing it with your cache ID and description.
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There are several munzee 'hides' near Jacksonville, FL. No log or container to find. The only thing at the site is a munzee tag zip tied to a fence, post,etc. You have to read the munzee with a smartphone and it will give directions how to log the cache on line.
Isn't that an entirely different game, and company?
They are listed on the geocaching.com as caches.
Here's one of them. GC2HBCH.
Some new type of Lab Cache in Florida? I thought all caches had to have a container and a log to be considered a geocache.
You'll have to take that up with the reviewer who approved it.
Guess you weren't around when all the virtual caches were being approved. None of them had logs or containers. I've yet to find an earthcache that has a container or log.
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Found Munzee tag Found Munzee tag also. Going to claim for now. Well, I think I found it. Did not see a log or container, but I found(?) a Munzee QR code plastic thing
No luck, I think the previous find was for the Munzee in the tree, not the cache. Anyway, it appears this has been gone a while. TFTF Not found game piece from different game here. Found the Munzee game piece, but no cache container.There are several munzee 'hides' near Jacksonville, FL. No log or container to find. The only thing at the site is a munzee tag zip tied to a fence, post,etc. You have to read the munzee with a smartphone and it will give directions how to log the cache on line.
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As far as the Seattle area goes, have seen many many of these bottlecap hides and not once have I seen them archived for burying guidelines.
While driving down an interstate with a 65mph speed limit I often see people driving 15-20mph over the speed limit. Since they're not on the side of road getting a ticket, it must be okay to drive 15-20 miles over the speed limit.
Then go write him a ticket.
After spending 42 years in law enforcement at the state and federal level and teaching criminal law for many many years I don't recall ready any federal or state statute that says violating a geocaching guideline is the same as violating a statute.
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What is this about?
http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=a0dcdd3b-caba-4192-a324-6e99420bf883
The person has "discovered" almost 3000 TBs and geocoins in week. Most "discovered" on 04/10/2013. The person is logging them at a rate of about 4 every minute.
Most of the TBs haven't been seen in several years, some missing almost 10 years. Many show still being held by the owner.
There were certainly enough at the Dresden Mega to discover. Wonder if a list of codes was circulated?
A couple of those logged are on my watch list. When they both popped up my first thought was it must be an event. When I checked the person then red flags went up. Far too many TBs/coins that haven't been seen in many years. In fact most look like they've been reported lost. A couple I looked at have been missing almost 10 years. A bunch of others showed still being in the owner's possession with the owners scattered all over the US. When checking these owners some haven't logged onto GC.com in years and some show logging caches in the US the day their TB was discovered in Germany. The other red flag that these are not from an event is this one person is the only one "discoverying" them. If it was that large of an event where they passed around a TB/coin list then at least a few others would be discoverying them too. No one has.
Found it Found it 
Didn't find it Didn't find it 
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Barely non-commercial caches annoy me
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Oh my! I'm so sorry you're offended. How am I going to be able to sleep at night.
Guess you haven't dealt with very many reviewers. Most are good. Some very poor.