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I don't want to hijack this thread and certainly don't want to rake over some very old ground but the point was that GAGB Best Practice and guidelines are there for their members. As a non member I'm not even going to be aware of them let alone bound by them! That doesn't mean I disagree with them. Peter has explained very well how he used to handle this and, as I've always found with Peter, he's managed it very very wisely

My views on GAGB etc don't mean I actually disagree with guidelines, although I don't actually know what GAGB guidelines there are. On the caches in bags issue I completely agree that you shouldn't do it. If you feel the container choosen for your cache will leek then perhaps you should reconsider the container rather than wrapping it in something that will degrade, get soggy, shelter slugs, etc

Oh Dear!! So I agree to GC guidelines for listings and then find I'm bound by an organisation I was somewhat opposed to when it was set up and am not a member of!

Er, when did GAGB start deciding the guidelines on GC.com? Surely GAGB guidelines are guidelines for GAGB members only.

I have to say that late last year I sent my Summit back to Garmin, it was 5 years old and well out of warranty and I openly told them I had dropped it. They replaced it wih a brand new unit under warranty! I'd say they have fantastic customer care and service. I also got straight through on the phone

Been away for the last 6 weekends!

I'm from Somerset originally, brought up all over the place and now based in Norfolk. Welcome by the way

Fair point.

Don't forget that a cache that appears abandoned on gc may still be an active cache elsewhere. The cacher may have abandoned gc rather than the cache. It would be very unfair for someone to just take over a cache that was now hosted elsewhere.

Thanks all. I'll try them tomorrow.

Hi all I managed to drop my Etrex Summit at the weekend while hill walking and broken off the waterproof page button. Can anyone recommend a repair company for Garmins? Thanks in advance.

While caching in Peru. The spider was dead, killed by the wasp which was dragging it across the Inca Trail to lay it's eggs inside it apparently!

Whereas am ammo can half full of useless and broken tat is infinitely more than a virtual?, sorry beg to differ. As i've already stated, i would rather find a well hidden and thought out micro than an ammo can bunged just anywhere because it could be, for some people it's the thrill of the hunt rather than what they might be able to swop that's the attraction, everyone plays the game differently, don't denigrate others just because you want to play it your way.. Very true, just as trading useless bits of junk isn't important to everyone, again it's how the individual wants to play the game. Simple solution then, go find a cache that will accept the size TB that you want to place in it. TB's managed to move around before people started placing micros so really that's an invalid argument. Quality of hide or capacity? i really think you need to define this statement better. I've visited several "quality" ammo cans, i've visited several "quality" micros, i've also visited many "large capacity" caches that if truth be known wouldn't suffer from being exchanged for micros, why? because of the crap they seem to attract in trade items, increasing the cache container size doesn't neccessary follow that the quality of the cache will rise. Just imagine if everyone really did practice cache in trash out - most ammo cans would be devoid of any trade items whatsoever as the majority of times trades have only ended up in the cache because the "trader" would be too embarrassed to put the stuff into their own bin at home (Hmm, maybe that's a whole new idea for a "rant" thread, unless of course it's been done before). Possibly you are reading a little too much into my reply. I obviously haven't lost the unfortunate trait to come across wrong in my abscence. In my reply I was saying that a. People should be able to make their feelings known. It can get very boring if too much is off limits in a forum like this. b. I was trying to point out that the game is about hunting a cache. A cache is by it's very nature something that contains something and a log book is not what I would define as a cache. c. Numbers are important, trading is important, the hunt is important, the location is important. The use of a traditional cache container gives more opportunity of all of these important aspects to the game to be met. A micro usually illiminates the trading part and the TB movement part. Quality is about just that quality. It can mean many things. A quality location needs any kind of cache as its purpose is to bring you there. A quality puzzle needs imagination and containers that suit the puzzle. A quality hide may be just that. A great hidey hole that determines the size of the cache. I'm not disputing that quality micros exist nor that crap ammo tins exist. Only last week I visited a very well hidden micro. Effort had gone into it but the hide was simply for the sake of the hide. There was nothing notable about the location itself and so the cache hide was the point. I also visited fairly soso normal caches but the location was a great eye opener to me. There is obviously a place for micros. But in the last 3 years there seems to have been a great increase in lame duck micros that would probably have been fairly lame normal caches as well. At least a normal cache in a location that can support it give those that have other important aspects to the game than numbers to play.

Why not make your feeling known? The game is geoCACHING and a small box with nothing but a log is minimally more than a virtual. Numbers may well be important to you but there are not important to everyone. The biggest proplem with micro's is that you cannot get TB's in most of them. The prolification of micros is probably the biggest change I have noticed since returning to caching. I currently carry a TB that will not fit into most of the caches I have visited recently, that are anywhere near it's goal. I'm with Pharsee on this one. There are way too many micros. Cachers really should try for quality of hide.

Have you checked Terracaching? It could be one from there.

All down to where we live. Bit of a fraud really given that out of the 6 of us the youngest is the only one from around here. The rest are from far and wide

My intro came from a Canadian collegue who has never actually cached himself. He was aware of the site and pointed it out to me when he learnt I had a GPSr I was reintroduced by Jango & Boba Fett

alas I'm now back in the quiet solitude of the Norfolk countryside Maybe next time.

I've just had a couple of days based in Melksham and thought I'd take in a few caches while there. Every cache I went to I was disturbed by muggles, with the exception of one. How do you folks cope down there with so many people wandering around the countryside? I even got disturbed at 10pm by an empty carpark and boatless canal! Some great caches though

Anyone who knows me from old will know I'm a supporter of ALL listing sites. I will have to archive that one on the other channel sometime soon though as they prefer one site listings. I put this back here as I think it deserves some visits again!

Would be rude of me not to About time I lugged myself back up some of those hills. need to get fitter for the winter skills

Your confused! No wonder, from memory that stage is in the center of Thetford! Wouldn't go there at 9pm either though

Thanks 3 years by my reckoning. I did do a couple on here early last year. My aren't there a lot more caches now

Absoloutly not! The insurance company will start checking up on me as I'm already on my fourth PDA due to water damage! I used to find these without any problem. We have had a lot of rain lately and the ground cover at Sprigs Trig is probably why I'm not finding that one. Pretty sure I have the right location but so far, two visits now, I've just found a well hidden empty bottle. By the time I got to the Grindle it was getting dark so no chance of spotting anything when you add dark to that location. I'll get em.

I'd never get away with that! I have two Garmin's, used for hillwalking and geocaching, usb for the pc in the landrover, and a bluetooth for tomtom. Her indoors would have a fit if I announced two of them were no longer any good for geocaching and I need another one! I always used to find caches in trees. I reckon I've just lost the knack Even found one once no-one else could find so they moved it to a new home.